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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

freescooter said:
It is not only how many. Who enters the equation too. One reason golf is even on tv is that 74% of its viewers earn 75,000 plus (2023 number). I’d bet ACC viewers have higher average incomes than B12 viewers.
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What in the ever flying fluck does this have to do with anything? Viewers ain't paying these contracts directly.
 
Fishy said:
Yormark is not the one who worries me….it’s the podunk schools.

I have no faith that some hayseed school president with a corn field out her window is gonna understand that expanding their doofus conference footprint into the northeast is a good thing.
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For as much (deserved) grief we give Susan and Ward for their failures, the vast majority of presidents and ADs are every bit as clueless as those two were and if it weren't for pure luck would be bottom feeding, too.
 
Fishy said:
no network even wanted to extend them an offer (Arizona, Utah, Colorado, Arizona State).
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Didn't they get a full share from Fox and ESPN when they joined the big 12?
 
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Fishy said:
In the past, the B12 was bringing in a lot less revenue, but distributing it among far fewer members. (And there’s exit fee money figured in somewhere.) The newest members to the B12 were actually dilutive whereas the ACC’s new members, as crazy as they are, will be additive.

I think this chart overstates the difference a bit, but it’s instructive. I think he’s trying to guess the ACC Network payout with the new carriage fees. There actually will be decent revenue from the additions.

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I might be wrong but pretty sure this graphic was proved to be incorrect - overstating the ACC's gap over the Big12.
 
noeynox said:
What in the ever flying fluck does this have to do with anything? Viewers ain't paying these contracts directly.
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No, but ESPN or others can make a higher CPM for the better demographics with national advertisers like luxury car makers, etc. and that theoretically translates to a better TV deal for the conference (Big10 reportedly gets a bump for this in their media deals).
 
Fishy said:
Yormark is not the one who worries me….it’s the podunk schools.

I have no faith that some hayseed school president with a corn field out her window is gonna understand that expanding their doofus conference footprint into the northeast is a good thing.
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There's a greater likelihood that the president of UConn could look out her window and see a corn field than could the presidents of Houston, Cincy, UCF, or any of the 4-corner schools. There's also a greater likelihood that any of those presidents could look out their office window and see an on-campus stadium. Podunk, indeed.
 
hank970 said:
There's a greater likelihood that the president of UConn could look out her window and see a corn field than could the presidents of Houston, Cincy, UCF, or any of the 4-corner schools. There's also a greater likelihood that any of those presidents could look out their office window and see an on-campus stadium. Podunk, indeed.
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Point taken.

There is also a very strong likelyhood that BC's president could attend a men's basketball game and shake hands with every fan in attendance in less than ten minutes.
 
hank970 said:
There's a greater likelihood that the president of UConn could look out her window and see a corn field than could the presidents of Houston, Cincy, UCF, or any of the 4-corner schools. There's also a greater likelihood that any of those presidents could look out their office window and see an on-campus stadium. Podunk, indeed.
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You kind of picked the schools that don’t make his point and avoided the large handful that do.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Point taken.

There is also a very strong likelyhood that BC's president could attend a men's basketball game and shake hands with every fan in attendance in less than ten minutes.
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I'll have to take your word for it. I wouldn't know.
 
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Hoophound said:
You kind of picked the schools that don’t make his point and avoided the large handful that do.
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All of the rest are in bigger towns than Storrs, and their campuses are bigger too. Again, Google Earth doesn't lie.
 
hank970 said:
There's a greater likelihood that the president of UConn could look out her window and see a corn field than could the presidents of Houston, Cincy, UCF, or any of the 4-corner schools. There's also a greater likelihood that any of those presidents could look out their office window and see an on-campus stadium. Podunk, indeed.
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lol….a bunch of second-rate crap schools.

Dumb ass.
 
hank970 said:
There's a greater likelihood that the president of UConn could look out her window and see a corn field than could the presidents of Houston, Cincy, UCF, or any of the 4-corner schools. There's also a greater likelihood that any of those presidents could look out their office window and see an on-campus stadium. Podunk, indeed.
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You're right. The KU and K State Presidents would see Sunflower Fields. Have you ever been to Big 12 land? Your comment is the dumbest comment in Boneyard history.
 
I've moved around a bit over the years but have lived in Big 12 country since 1977. Having traveled extensively throughout the area, I'd expect to see fields of sunflowers in western Kansas, and I have, but Manhattan (KSU) and Lawrence (KU) are in the eastern part of the state. Locales in Kansas well east of the 100th meridian are hillier and more wooded. No fields of sunflowers there.

You're welcome to come out and see for yourself, but please don't stay.
 
hank970 said:
I've moved around a bit over the years but have lived in Big 12 country since 1977. Having traveled extensively throughout the area, I'd expect to see fields of sunflowers in western Kansas, and I have, but Manhattan (KSU) and Lawrence (KU) are in the eastern part of the state. Locales in Kansas well east of the 100th meridian are hillier and more wooded. No fields of sunflowers there.

You're welcome to come out and see for yourself, but please don't stay.
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So it's only been 50 years since you've lived in Big 12 country. You're really up to date. I live KC right now you rube. I've ridden tons of bike races from Salina eastward.

You don't have to be in Western KS to see Sunflowers. And Manhattan is still surrounded by an empty Prairie. The drive into Manhattan off of 70 is sobering.
 
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ZooCougar said:
So it's only been 50 years since you've lived in Big 12 country. You're really up to date. I live KC right now you rube. I've ridden tons of bike races from Salina eastward.

You don't have to be in Western KS to see Sunflowers. And Manhattan is still surrounded by an empty Prairie. The drive into Manhattan off of 70 is sobering.
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Lol. Nicely done.

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ZooCougar said:
So it's only been 50 years since you've lived in Big 12 country. You're really up to date. I live KC right now you rube. I've ridden tons of bike races from Salina eastward.

You don't have to be in Western KS to see Sunflowers. And Manhattan is still surrounded by an empty Prairie. The drive into Manhattan off of 70 is sobering.
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Not 50 years since I lived in Big12 country. As I clearly stated, I've lived in Big12 country since 1977 -- 48 years this coming May. If that makes me a rube, then at least I'm a rube who can read and comprehend.

Bike racer? I used to be involved in bike racing, but as a planner, administrator, and venue coordinator, not a racer. Mostly the Coors Classic, back in the day, but also local races and fun rides. Also was assigned to attend the World Championships in Colorado Springs as an official observer in 1986 and was involved in preparing permits for the filming of American Flyers -- kind of a disappointment, because the screenwriter, Steve Tesich, failed to deliver like he did for his Oscar-winning Breaking Away screenplay.

One of my cousins, a mathematician, worked for Ben Sirotta calculating strength and flex characteristics of the Colorado frame.
 
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JohnFSilver said:
UConn ahead of its Time with subsidy. I wonder if all the media heads will mention how Arizona St can’t compete with a big subsidy and if that is a worrisome sign,
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Was going to say, how is this different than what UConn has been doing?

I think schools are going to realize that sports in a vacuum aren’t going to drive a windfall profit for most. But when you account for increase in applications, increased exposure, and other tangible benefits that cost real dollars, the willingness to fund athletics becomes more viable.
 
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