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Postscripts: Big 12 Expansion Rumors Get Overblown Thanks to Two Missing Words

By Matthew Postins

It took one sportswriter on one YouTube show saying one thing about the ACC to light another fire when it comes to realignment.

Yahoo Sports!’s Ross Dellenger did an interview with KC Sports Network’s John Kurtz during Big 12 Media Days and they talked about the ACC as it relates to potential realignment. In that interview, Dellenger said the following about the Big 12, Clemson and Florida State:

“Well when you look at Clemson and Florida’s State’s options, the first option would probably be to get into the Big Ten or the SEC. The second option would be some way to re-form the ACC with a smaller number of teams where you would be at a financial advantage because you wouldn’t be splitting the TV distribution with maybe 18 teams, you’d be splitting it with 10, so they could reform in a smaller group. And option three is to probably join another league and obviously there is only one other power conference league and that is the Big 12. You look at those options and again, they probably prefer No. 1.”

He also went on to say this:

“I think there is at least early conversation between the Big 12 and those schools about the possibility.”

“I think” are the key words here. The quote in the tweet posted with the video came without the “I think.” There’s an important distinction there.

“I think” means I think this is happening but I haven’t confirmed it. Logically, I would agree with Dellenger — the Big 12, Clemson and Florida have probably talked, likely through third parties. But I’m not reporting that. I don’t have the sources to report it. If Dellenger had the sources, he’d say “I’m reporting” or “Sources tell me,” something like that, an indication that he has the information on good authority.

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The problem with this from a words perspective (yes, words do matter!!) is that it's not about options it's about scenarios or possibilities. Options are when it's your choice (i.e. you opt to do something). Sorry I had to state the obvious.

 

[CL82]

Not sure if Jason is key but

Lol, paying 9 figures to make what is essentially a lateral move.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Unpopular opinion around here but you take a bball invite with football scheduling benefits. The downfall is obviously travel and men’s soccer. They might be able to stay in the BE or will have to get an affiliation with the A10 or CAA. We’ve also seen what happens when our bball team flies multiple hours to every game.

It comes down to money and even a quarter share is way more money than we’d get in the BE.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Unpopular opinion around here but you take a bball invite with football scheduling benefits. The downfall is obviously travel and men’s soccer. They might be able to stay in the BE or will have to get an affiliation with the A10 or CAA. We’ve also seen what happens when our bball team flies multiple hours to every game.

It comes down to money and even a quarter share is way more money than we’d get in the BE.

The "basketball only" is a misnomer. Like you said it's all sports but football. And, if the money is good, and there is an agreement for 4-6 football games, with a carrot dangling for full membership, you have to do due diligence.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

The "basketball only" is a misnomer. Like you said it's all sports but football. And, if the money is good, and there is an agreement for 4-6 football games, with a carrot dangling for full membership, you have to do due diligence.

Right. Baseball will only get stronger too

 

[CL82]

Unpopular opinion around here but you take a bball invite with football scheduling benefits. The downfall is obviously travel and men’s soccer. They might be able to stay in the BE or will have to get an affiliation with the A10 or CAA. We’ve also seen what happens when our bball team flies multiple hours to every game.

It comes down to money and even a quarter share is way more money than we’d get in the BE.

Not preferred, but sure, depending upon the numbers. Give me that deal for a dollar less than an ACC full share and I would take it gladly. Give me the same deal for a dollar more than a big east full share and I would turn it down in a heartbeat. As always, the devil is in the details.

If I were the president I would press for a pathway to full membership over a specific number of years. Absent that, somebody would have to throw a whole lot of cash at us.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Right. Baseball will only get stronger too

Penders has gotten phukd over with UConn returning to the BE.
If UConn does change conferences, it will benefit UConn baseball and Penders, and for that I am thankful.

 

[Kolumbo]

Yeah, I don't believe FSU or Clemson are looking at moving to the Big 12. Financially it makes no sense.

That said, you know me, I always like to play devil's advocate. The Big 12 and ACC are #3 and #4, or #4 and #3. If FSU, Clemson, or 1 or 2 others moved to the Big 12, I think the Big 12 would be closer to the P2 than people give it credit for. And the ACC would be closer to G6. I think I give a lot more weight to the Corner 4 than most people do. And the B1G would still not be in Florida or Texas.

Here's an interesting article about recruiting in Texas which I found via the Jason Scheer account.

Brent Brennan believes move to Big 12 should expand recruiting

Brent Brennan discusses recruiting Texas, expanding Arizona's reach, and more.

247sports.com

Yeah, I don't believe FSU or Clemson are looking at moving to the Big 12. Financially it makes no sense.

That said, you know me, I always like to play devil's advocate. The Big 12 and ACC are #3 and #4, or #4 and #3. If FSU, Clemson, or 1 or 2 others moved to the Big 12, I think the Big 12 would be closer to the P2 than people give it credit for. And the ACC would be closer to G6. I think I give a lot more weight to the Corner 4 than most people do. And the B1G would still not be in Florida or Texas. So although a lateral move before the move, FSU and Clemson moving to the Big 12 would make the Big 12 much stronger than the ACC.

Here's an interesting article about recruiting in Texas which I found via the Jason Scheer account.

Brent Brennan believes move to Big 12 should expand recruiting

Brent Brennan discusses recruiting Texas, expanding Arizona's reach, and more.

247sports.com

 

[Stinger92860]

Right. Baseball will only get stronger too

I want UConn to open a Frisco TX campus and place the Baseball team there Use Riders Field for games.

Why not, Fairfield U opened an Austin TX campus.

 

[uconndogs]

All the noise about FSU and Clemson to the B12 suggests that there may not yet be a deal at the ready with the SEC or BiG for either of them. If that's the case, then it would be very smart for FSU and Clemson to have some negotiating leverage with the SEC and BiG. If you believe, as I do, that the BiG and SEC want to own major college football, then they will want to be sure that the B12 is left in a distant third place which would mean they would want to preclude them bringing in FSU and Clemson.

That's my guess.....

 

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[huskymedic]

Assisted access <<

 

[CL82]

You're thinking that you're going to get laid on prom night. What am I missing? Why is that a mystery?

How dare you assume that she's a sure "sure thing."

 

[Chin Diesel]

FSU and Clemson to the XII would be the natural progression of consolidation. Maryland made a lateral move but had the extreme good fortune of doing it sooner rather than later, and a lot cheaper. Perhaps

You lost all credbility with whatever else you wrote after stating ACC>B1G was a lateral move.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Hamms30]

Strong Lloyd Christmas vibes off that one.

 

[Kolumbo]

You lost all credbility with whatever else you wrote after stating ACC>B1G was a lateral move.

Trying to be diplomatic with the ACC because it may be the only conference we misfits may be invited to.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Ha Who]

Rule 1a for FSU

 

[Hamms30]

This has been in the back of my mind since it started. Why would a conference want to take in two teams that are willing sue the buhjeesus out of their conference because they "feel like" they've been slighted? It's like someone saying "I divorced them for every red cent I could, took the house, took the kids, the dog AND the truck!!! Boy, looking around, is it me or has the dating scene really dried up now a days...?"

 

[Rufus]

SEC doesn't want FSU because it was a disruptive partner? And Texas wasn't a disruptive partner in the Big 12?

 

[Ldandy]

This has been in the back of my mind since it started. Why would a conference want to take in two teams that are willing sue the buhjeesus out of their conference because they "feel like" they've been slighted? It's like someone saying "I divorced them for every red cent I could, took the house, took the kids, the dog AND the truck!!! Boy, looking around, is it me or has the dating scene really dried up now a days...?"

There may be some truth to this from a conference perspective, but ultimately, I believe that the TV Networks are holding all the cards in realignment because they control the purse strings. If the combination of FOX/CBS/NBC went to the B1G and told them that we really want you to add FSU and Clemson, I believe that they would be added for the right price. Nobody at this point is getting added if they are dilutive to the conference payouts for current members. ABC/ESPN may be even more prickly about helping them out because of the litigation in their wholly owned ACC Conference.