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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

Recapping, it sounds as though the Boneyard has a faction that sees evolution of the current model to a "Premier League of College Football". Some sort of Meritocracy would ensue. Measurables would start with W's and L's and include eyeballs, clicks, subscriptions, any metric conducive to quantitative evaluation. The Premier League might have a revolving door at the bottom, with teams moving in and out from Premier to subPremier(??) based on those metrics, for an undetermined stay both in or out.

Interesting, makes sense, but the Boston Colleges of the world would fight tooth and nail. UconnJim's statement that this would be very good for UConn is right on. However, it will take years of pumping money into FB chasing the hope that this model does in fact evolve, giving us a chance to play our way into the Premier League.
 
AllHusky said:
Measurables that help determine who moves in and out of the "Premier League" should it come to be?
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UConn - $37 million

P5 teams making less:
Rutgers - $36 million
UCF - $31 million
Oregon State - $30 million
Washington State - $29 million
Houston - $20 million


Kind of surprising that UConn only makes $1 million more than Rutgers! After Rutgers, UConn is only ahead of new P5 teams UCF and Houston, as well as on the way out P5 teams Oregon State and Washington State.
 
So the new "PAC-12" Super Conference would look like this, based on who can generate the most revenue without media contracts:

1. UConn - $37 million
2. UNLV - $33 million
3. Oregon State - $30 million
4. Washington State - $29 million
5. San Diego State - $29 million
6. Colorado State - $26 million
7. Boise State - $25 million
8. Fresno State - $23 million
9. Wyoming - $23 million
10. Memphis - $23 million
11. East Carolina - $21 million
12. Old Dominion - $21 million
13. New Mexico - $20 million
14. USF - $19 million
15. Nevada - $18 million
16. Wichita State - $17 million (no football)
17. Appalachia State - $16 million
18. Florida Atlantic - $15 million
19. Georgia State - $15 million
20. Arkansas State - $15 million

If you split this into 2 divisions to limit travel:

East -
UConn
Memphis
East Carolina
Old Dominion
USF
Wichita State (no football)
Appalachia State
Florida Atlantic
Georgia State
Arkansas State

West -
UNLV
Oregon State
Washington State
San Diego State
Colorado State
Boise State
Fresno State
Wyoming
New Mexico
Nevada


**Since private schools were excluded in the numbers, this may skew the results. Not sure which private schools in the G5 make more than $15 million, the cutoff in this scenario.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
No kidding. Just getting 15K more fans in the crowd for six more games is a bump of $3-$5 million.
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A successful football team would be like having permission to print your own money just based on stadium revenue. That is part of the allure of big-time football.
 
Rufus said:
UConn - $37 million

P5 teams making less:
Rutgers - $36 million
UCF - $31 million
Oregon State - $30 million
Washington State - $29 million
Houston - $20 million


Kind of surprising that UConn only makes $1 million more than Rutgers! After Rutgers, UConn is only ahead of new P5 teams UCF and Houston, as well as on the way out P5 teams Oregon State and Washington State.
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One key to remember though is many of those programs make as much as they do because they are in a P conference. If UConn were in the ACC all these years it probably would have been ahead of Va Tech, Ga Tech, Cal, NC State, and many privates who aren't listed. Even Pitt isn't reporting its figures for some reason.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
My son an I and about 10k loud UConn fans were there . A journey of 75 miles from my house .
We were sitting next to some other UConn fans who were trash talking a tad with the Sooner fans in front of us . I’m not saying they‘re fans were worried but they were annoyed they couldn’t put us away.until that 4th qtr pick . We were a pesky bunch who got 400-500 yards in total offense , Toddman rushed for 125yards . Almost all in the first 3 quarters . . Those are
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Rufus said:
UConn - $37 million

P5 teams making less:
Rutgers - $36 million
UCF - $31 million
Oregon State - $30 million
Washington State - $29 million
Houston - $20 million


Kind of surprising that UConn only makes $1 million more than Rutgers! After Rutgers, UConn is only ahead of new P5 teams UCF and Houston, as well as on the way out P5 teams Oregon State and Washington State.
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Thinking same thing. Expected a better separation
 
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Rufus said:
UConn - $37 million

P5 teams making less:
Rutgers - $36 million
UCF - $31 million
Oregon State - $30 million
Washington State - $29 million
Houston - $20 million


Kind of surprising that UConn only makes $1 million more than Rutgers! After Rutgers, UConn is only ahead of new P5 teams UCF and Houston, as well as on the way out P5 teams Oregon State and Washington State.
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It’s only surprising if you do not believe fb drives the bus.
 
uconnyankee said:
Thinking same thing. Expected a better separation
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Look at Rutgers home football schedule in 2022:

Wagner
Indiana
Nebraska
Indiana
Michigan
Penn St.

Don't you think UConn would sell out season tickets if that was the home schedule? And, don't you think there would be strong demand for tickets from many of those visiting schools?

I'm surprised that Rutgers doesn't blow away UConn's revenues given they play a Big 10 schedule in all sports.
 
UConnJim said:
Look at Rutgers home football schedule in 2022:

Wagner
Indiana
Nebraska
Indiana
Michigan
Penn St.

Don't you think UConn would sell out season tickets if that was the home schedule? And, don't you think there would be strong demand for tickets from many of those visiting schools?

I'm surprised that Rutgers doesn't blow away UConn's revenues given they play a Big 10 schedule in all sports.
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They play Indiana twice? Both times at Rutgers?
 
How Sway?! said:
It's even more impressive when you consider we don't have a P5 football schedule to pump up the ticket revenue.
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Even more impressive considering this was 2022, which was improved in 2023 with bb natty revenues and improved fb attendance, etc year over year.
 
Rufus said:
So the new "PAC-12" Super Conference would look like this, based on who can generate the most revenue without media contracts:

1. UConn - $37 million
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I thought this was one of @shizzle787's CR schemes upon first glance. It's not terrible, but there are a few teams that shouldn't be the list.
 
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Chuck said:
I disagree re this part. If the P2 consolidate, it won't be by kicking out the lesser teams. I don't even know if their contracts/bylaws allow for kicking a school out. Temple was an odd situation. More likely, the top of the Big10 and SEC would break away and create their own super conference(s). So, the schools you are referencing are in no worse of a position than they were before. In a perfect world, they are the Kansas City Royals, feeding from the smaller trough of general profits while providing wins for the top teams that rake in additional revenue. I'd rather be the Royals than an independent minor league team. Worst case scenario, the top of the Big10 leaves and those teams are still in a strong non-P2 (P1?) conference that can poach others.

I do think that the ACC showed weakness by taking Stanford and Cal and certainly SMU. That looks like a money grab by a group that knows it's dead soon so it may as well grab as much cash is it can.
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Power conferences kicking members out is the fever dream of fans of the schools left out.

In their scenarios, just enough teams get kicked out for us to reform something like the old Big East.

It’s not happening.
 
UConnJim said:
Look at Rutgers home football schedule in 2022:

Wagner
Indiana
Nebraska
Indiana
Michigan
Penn St.

Don't you think UConn would sell out season tickets if that was the home schedule? And, don't you think there would be strong demand for tickets from many of those visiting schools?

I'm surprised that Rutgers doesn't blow away UConn's revenues given they play a Big 10 schedule in all sports.
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Was talking more about Cincy, UCF, and Houston.

I think these are 2022 figures.
 
Kicking teams out is complicated. It's more than sports. Look at the B1G ---- they have the B1G Academic Alliance in which each school integrates many of its services/offerings/research with the other member schools. Also, each B1G school has partial ownership of the BTN. It's not as simple as "Well ok, you are kicked out of the B1G, now go away." I don't see any school getting kicked out. Plus, someone has to eat those football/basketball losses for the top brands.
 
Fishy said:
Power conferences kicking members out is the fever dream of fans of the schools left out.

In their scenarios, just enough teams get kicked out for us to reform something like the old Big East.

It’s not happening.
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So:

Goal of Power Conferences is to shrink the pool to the Premier league

Is this where we are now:

1. Destroyed PAC and crippled AAC
2. ACC next, seems somewhat clear who the SEC, B1G will take
3. How many B12 schools would be targets of the Super Conference? Kansas+??
4. Will the Premier(B1G+SEC) rest on the 7th day and reorganize the day after, or are there more to add?
5. Will Fishys "Fever dream" of culling of the Premier League occur?(Rutgers, Vandy, Northwestern, etc???)
6. Do the remnants of the blood bath have enough appeal to financially organize and land on their feet, non-competitive($) with the Premier, but fairly sound fiscally??
 
Storrs South said:
It isn't football level money but this makes UConn potentially more valuable if they start having unit payouts like the Men's tournament
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If the women's tournament starts paying out to conferences based on performance like the men's, I think most schools that can afford to do so will invest more money into women's basketball.
 
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AllHusky said:
So:

Goal of Power Conferences is to shrink the pool to the Premier league

Is this where we are now:

1. Destroyed PAC and crippled AAC
2. ACC next, seems somewhat clear who the SEC, B1G will take
3. How many B12 schools would be targets of the Super Conference? Kansas+??
4. Will the Premier(B1G+SEC) rest on the 7th day and reorganize the day after, or are there more to add?
5. Will Fishys "Fever dream" of culling of the Premier League occur?(Rutgers, Vandy, Northwestern, etc???)
6. Do the remnants of the blood bath have enough appeal to financially organize and land on their feet, non-competitive($) with the Premier, but fairly sound fiscally??
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As I read this, I heard the music and announcer's voice from the TV series "Soap". :)
 
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