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WhereistheDove? said:
It may not have be the absolutely ideal scenario but it’s a hell of a lot better than where we are currently. And as many have pointed out, having UConn probably positions the B12 much better to raid the ACC when they collapse for some more east coast presence.
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brasssbonanzaa said:
Honestly, if it's the Big 12 just adding Colorado and us...that's kinda not great. I would've MUCH preferred going along with Arizona to continue to bolster the league as the best basketball conference in the country. Because none of the 5 schools (CU, UA, ASU, UConn, and Utah) move the needle in football except for Utah kind of. So A Big 12 with Colorado and UConn isn't much better than mid-2000s Big East football.
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I looks like BY is using UConn’s potential invite to Big12 as a way to stick a foot in the door the the NE/E coast to get the ACC schools he wants in the next round of realignment. He’s playing the long game to make the proposals easier in a few years. He did say he has a plan for future of Big12 and that makes the most sense.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
B12 about to get UConn’d in conference realignment both metaphorically and literally?
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No, nothing like it. They're fine until the next major shakeup, and they will survive that because their properties aren't that valuable.

Plus, I really don't get why everyone rushed to bad rumors last night and are now rushing to good rumors. When stuff actually happens, we will all know. Why people are so confident they know something because anonymous folks with anonymous sources post something is beyond me.

And yes, it's like I don't know us at all any more, I know.
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
I mean, are you denying that adding Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and UConn is not better than adding just UConn and Colorado?

Colorado is objectively bad in major sports. Adding Arizona would give the league another marquee basketball program and ASU at least has a pulse in football plus the Hurley matchup.
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WHO CARES?!?!?! GET IT DONE AD DAVE!!!!!!!
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
I mean, are you denying that adding Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and UConn is not better than adding just UConn and Colorado?

Colorado is objectively bad in major sports. Adding Arizona would give the league another marquee basketball program and ASU at least has a pulse in football plus the Hurley matchup.
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It's only worse because they wanted the AZ schools and wouldn't have gotten them. For scheduling, 14 is much better. Colorado is a big get. Basketball is recruiting very well, football is Primed to improve quickly, and they are in a big, fast growing market.
 
In the end, FOX did the math and realized it is not worth it to pay Oregon and Washington $200M to get into the B1G when the entire PAC contract is worth a little more than that.

Apple probably realised they are getting a great deal if they can keep the PAC together.

In the end, if is about the money. Also, don't underestimate PAC's academic elitism attitude as well.

If PAC is smart, they ads Boise ST, SDSU, and SMU asap. I doubt they will add Boise due to academics though but they should.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
If the Pac 12 holds together, it will be because the Apple deal is a solid deal, and there is room for improvement in it.
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Or, the Big 10 was not going to offer a full share to Oregon and Washington and the travel costs would be a killer. Arizona was only looking at the Big 12 if the Pac dissolved. Same with Utah.

Remember, conference realignment is not over and stability is basically media contract to media contract. In 10 years, who knows what the conferences will look like.
 
Rico444 said:
Yeah I'm thinking Apple upped their offer.
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It's very possible. They also may have made some of the additional revenues easier to reach.

If Apple is doing this, I would not be surprised if it is in part due to the benefits that company received decades ago from the Palo Alto Research Center (it basically provided the technology Apple used in its first iteration).
 
NEforceUConn said:
WOW, if true, one large side benefit will be preserving the stupid comments that the unfaithful have posted recently, and bringing them to light for all eternity. A few posts from a large fish instantly come to mind.
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The reaction by the large fish was in real time and still holds true if those factors remained. This is fluid and the large fish may have been premature but definitely not inaccurate.
 
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ctchamps said:
I’m not interested in rubbing people’s faces over this. It bothers me too much watching firsthand fear make otherwise rational and intelligent individuals react so irrationally. Even if employed as a coping mechanism it’s counterproductive at best and dangerous at worst.
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Unfortunately, this is true for parts of our nation far more important than conference realignment.
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
Honestly, if it's the Big 12 just adding Colorado and us...that's kinda not great. I would've MUCH preferred going along with Arizona to continue to bolster the league as the best basketball conference in the country. Because none of the 5 schools (CU, UA, ASU, UConn, and Utah) move the needle in football except for Utah kind of. So A Big 12 with Colorado and UConn isn't much better than mid-2000s Big East football.
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So you're the guy who would be in bed with Jennifer Aniston wondering if you could do better.
 
businesslawyer said:
Unfortunately, this is true for parts of our nation far more important than conference realignment.
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So true. The nation really suffers from the current state of elitist sanctimony. It seems to creep in everywhere, even athletics.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
It's very possible. They also may have made some of the additional revenues easier to reach.

If Apple is doing this, I would not be surprised if it is in part due to the benefits that company received decades ago from the Palo Alto Research Center (it basically provided the technology Apple used in its first iteration).
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I was thinking along those lines as well.
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
Honestly, if it's the Big 12 just adding Colorado and us...that's kinda not great. I would've MUCH preferred going along with Arizona to continue to bolster the league as the best basketball conference in the country. Because none of the 5 schools (CU, UA, ASU, UConn, and Utah) move the needle in football except for Utah kind of. So A Big 12 with Colorado and UConn isn't much better than mid-2000s Big East football.
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First of all getting UConn was the biggest prize. I understand why Cuse or UCF fans are in denial but I scratch my head when UConn fans fail to understand this. We put the B12 significantly ahead of other conferences in bb with our addition.

Colorado was a necessity albeit not a bad one. I agree getting Arizona would have solidified it even more but an argument can be made ASU was too big a price to pay.

I rather hope Yormark’s vision proves out, that bb is the biggest untapped money maker for conferences and that the northeast market is under marketed. If the Big12 can capitalize on this and if/when the ACC implodes we can get six better properties from that conference than what U of A and ASU would provide. Or we get U of A alone at a later date.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
It's very possible. They also may have made some of the additional revenues easier to reach.

If Apple is doing this, I would not be surprised if it is in part due to the benefits that company received decades ago from the Palo Alto Research Center (it basically provided the technology Apple used in its first iteration).
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What does Xerox PARC have to do with this? I used to look at it out my window at work. Microsoft, Apple, 3Com and others all ripped off ideas from Xerox.

If they are doing it, it's because an extra few million is a rounding error on just their interest income for a single day.
 
XStorrsion said:
This group isn't fending off the pillagers (B1G, SEC, XII) by adding two California schools that none of those conferences wanted.

Map for emphasis of how much of a misfit it would be to add them three time zones away.
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On the other hand the operating plan du jour is to get content in multiple time zones. Our addition to the ACC would not help them do that.

Just envisioning how CR#1 will incarnate itself next.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
WHO CARES?!?!?! GET IT DONE AD DAVE!!!!!!!
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This is the #begharder mentality.

Are we really now begging to get into a conference that just, apparently, got spurned by tier 2 Pac schools in favor of staying in a conference that:
  • Pays half of what the Big 12 would've
  • Has nine total members and can only realistically add G5 schools
  • Will be almost exclusively on a non-network streaming platform
If I'm the ACC, B1G, or SEC right now, the Big 12 is the one ripe for poaching, not the other way around. For all of his bluster, the only thing Yormark has delivered is Colorado.
 
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