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What our AD needs to do is to have UConn become a threat to one of the networks. UConn has been a pawn in all of this because it’s a hidden gem. It delivers a valuable market for pennies on the dollar. Why would anyone give that up if they don’t truly have to? Make them be forced to.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
I believe part of this is due to FOX trying to block Apple from getting quality college content. I am pretty sure FOX called their buddies at B1G and got them into action just like ESPN did with ACC.

Apple can simple offer more money to save this. If rumor is correct with Apple offering 20M per team per year, they can save the PAC by offering $12M more per team per year. For a 12 team conference, that's $144M more per year for the PAC-12.

Of course, FOX can always screw this by paying B1G $400M more per year for Oregon, Washington, Cal, and Stanford.
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This isn’t part of it. It’s all of it.
 
Anyone know if there’s a chance that after an executive session can the Arizona board come back immediately following to a public session and have a vote? Instead of waiting another 24 hours?

If not, team 16 won’t be announced until Monday of next week. But you can read the tea leaves from which school calls a special board meeting and through leaks.
 
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UConn Dan said:
Anyone know if there’s a chance that after an executive session can the Arizona board come back immediately following to a public session and have a vote? Instead of waiting another 24 hours?

If not, team 16 won’t be announced until Monday of next week. But you can read the tea leaves from which school calls a special board meeting and through leaks.
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Can we assume that since Utah didn’t call one yet, they aren’t tied to the hip with the Az schools?
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Doesn't Fox already have us for like $4 million a year? Why would they want to move us to the Big 12 to pay us $32 million a year?
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The payment is split with ESPN so they could still pay the same. I feel though Fox was sold on better BB content.
 
Kolumbo said:
This is great

"There are, of course, emotional ties to the Big East and certain fans who would cast away football for a sole focus on basketball in the Big East. But the university has shown it will support football aggressively, the motivation being that the sport, in this landscape, has to be driving a bus that carries every UConn program to a place from which it can win."

"The rest lines up just fine. Look across the nation, across platforms: Does any program, in its major sports, have a better four-coach lineup than Mora, Hurley, Geno Auriemma and Jim Penders? The Huskies win in Olympic sports, too. UConn has a big-time feel and a big-time operation without a big-time affiliation. It needs one."
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I get the Big East attachment, but for me, the Big East attachment died when Cuse, BC et al left. It just wasn't the same. We have a P5, 4,3 operation. An argument can be made that when UCF, BYU et all we're added to the XII that our facilities and performance, at the time weren't up to par. That narrative has changed dramatically. We check too many boxes to be left out again. I never forget rule #1 but we bring too much to the table now to be overlooked. (depending on the source, We have the #30 media market which overlaps #1 and #9. BY talks about adding value, it appears he gets that with UConn. I'm not trying to disrespect any schools, yes our football has seen better days, but what has CU, UA, ASU done in football in recent memory, 1 Natty from 33 years ago. Yes football drives the bus but something also has to be said about our collection of Natties across multiple sports. Yes, XII doesn't sponsor some of our sports, my point is just about every sport UC participates in, we're successful. XII already has BYU, do they bring SLC market or does Utah? I would think UConn's status as a flagship in a new market would bring more to a new conference as opposed to another school in a state that you already have. I remain cautiously optimistic.
 
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djct1999 said:
What our AD needs to do is to have UConn become a threat to one of the networks. UConn has been a pawn in all of this because it’s a hidden gem. It delivers a valuable market for pennies on the dollar. Why would anyone give that up if they don’t truly have to? Make them be forced to.
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Ah, the old we are so valuable, the conferences will fight over us take.
 
superjohn said:
People wouldn't be interested in a sport where every team makes it from the P-whatever. It makes the regular season worthless and it produces a watered down crappy tournament. People want the regular season to matter, they want the little guys having chance to make the tournament and do damage in the tournament. If they do anything for money it will be expanding the tournament which would also be a mistake but not anywhere near as dumb.
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I hear ya, but…There will still be last second shots, upsets, an Elite 8, Final 4, etc. A large percentage of the country will have a stake in the tournament and people will watch. What is the alternative viewing option?
 
giddyup said:
It was hardly a country club in the 80s. More like a mental institution comprised of 75% savages, 15% real students and 10% randos up for a good time. A fair statement is nobody went there unless you could go somewhere else better. Today, it is crown jewel. Thank Calhoun (and billion+ spent on upgrades) for transforming UConn as a first class place.
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I was there and passed on going to Brown. Connecticut was the state university and I always wanted to go there. It was a good school then, it's a better school now.
 
WestHartHusk said:
Just so the math is clear…together, the teams in the PAC are worth about $200M. Apart, 8 of them are worth $325M (assuming 4 to Big12 and 4 to Big10), so by extrapolation WSU and OSU are worth -$125M?
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THIS. I written a few posts on this. It makes no sense that these schools are somehow 50% more valuable in the B12.
 
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Maybe the raiding of the PAC-12 is all the Big XII ever wanted.

We are a state flagship university that just won a national championship and have proven athletic and academic success. Not to mention we open up to a new market.

If we haven’t been offered yet, then what are they waiting for? It’s obvious They are waiting to see what they can get from the PAC-12. I feel like we have been a pawn in this and might be left on the doorstep.

Not trying to be pessimistic but we saw what happened in previous rounds of CR and I don’t see how this round is any different. Worse for us is during the last round of CR at least we had more recent success in the sport that matters most to everyone involved in CR.
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Doesn't Fox already have us for like $4 million a year? Why would they want to move us to the Big 12 to pay us $32 million a year?
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why did espn kill the big east? Why does everyone think we are being offered 30 million? If I am negotiating I offer 15 and wait for a counter. With enough Px content, think 60 to 80 teams, why do any of the large media organizations need the big east.

It‘s clear no one needs the PAC. What is so important about 10 small catholic universities? There is the potential to save 60 million for someone. Offset this by 30 million and you are up 30 just on basic math, without considering the value of twice yearly UConn vs Kansas.
 
superjohn said:
30 years ago UConn was a cow town that no serious students looked at from across the country, and anyone with options in state never even thought about unless someone convinced them to apply to as a guaranteed safety school acceptance. We can thank the basketball programs for changing all of that.
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OK, but 10 years ago they had 3 national championships.

If you're going back 30yrs, Ohio State used to be Open admissions. Their status now trends with what's going on nationally. Is UC San Diego for instance has had the same trajectory.

But apparently you guys believe huge deficits and super high tuition can go on indefinitely.
 
Anyone know if our President or AD accompanied our National Champions to Nice?
 
How about this crazy take? What if we’re already in but have been asked to keep it under wraps until the Arizona thing plays itself out as part of the B 12s master plan?

Highly improbable I admit but could explain a few things. Executive session in June, Moras ‘i know more than the people on Twitter’ comments, tweets from football recruits, and the absolute radio silence from all who matter in the admin.

Daring to dream a bit here while recognizing I need a life !! :)
 
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Skiblets said:
How about this crazy take? What if we’re already in but have been asked to keep it under wraps until the Arizona thing plays itself out as part of the B 12s master plan?

Highly improbable I admit but could explain a few things. Executive session in June, Moras ‘i know more than the people on Twitter’ comments, tweets from football recruits, and the absolute radio silence from all who matter in the admin.

Daring to dream a bit here while recognizing I need a life !! :)
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We may be in unless Oregon decides to jump. It sounds like they haven't given B12 a definitive NO yet. But I don't buy the idea that we're keeping an invite under wraps.
 
Tyler2Rings said:
We may be in unless Oregon decides to jump. It sounds like they haven't given B12 a definitive NO yet. But I don't buy the idea that we're keeping an invite under wraps.
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The thing with Oregon, Brett Yormark said we want schools that want to be here -- i don't think he takes schools that are likely to bolt for the Big 10, so i think they're out.
 
Skiblets said:
How about this crazy take? What if we’re already in but have been asked to keep it under wraps until the Arizona thing plays itself out as part of the B 12s master plan?

Highly improbable I admit but could explain a few things. Executive session in June, Moras ‘i know more than the people on Twitter’ comments, tweets from football recruits, and the absolute radio silence from all who matter in the admin.

Daring to dream a bit here while recognizing I need a life !! :)
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I have gone on record as saying this is the most likely scenario.
 
uconnyankee said:
One comment not really mentioned is that BY also said they want programs that want to be part of the Big 12 growth.

I don’t think that describes ASU, Utah, or Oregon/Washington.
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Agreed but in reality that comment has nothing to do with wanting to be part of the big 12 but whether it’s that schools best option or not. Oregon and Washington could have big 10 invites coming. ASU and Utah won’t
 
ctchamps said:
I have gone on record as saying this is the most likely scenario.
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I think you’re one of the more bullish/optimistic people based on posts.

I want to believe, want to see something. But my reality senses are kicking in.
 
UConn Dan said:
The thing with Oregon, Brett Yormark said we want schools that want to be here -- i don't think he takes schools that are likely to bolt for the Big 10, so i think they're out.
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Ultimately I agree that O and W will not be in B12. I am just hoping that they still have their invitations and that is what is holding UConn back from joining.

If O and W have already told B12 no, then what? That would mean B12 is probably looking at other PAC leftovers besides the AZ schools. Makes no sense considering what Yormark has said, but not good atall
 
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