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This upcoming season is certainly the most attractive schedule of the three years, but overall it's a tough slate of games to sell season tickets against - particularly when you know the athletic department will be giving seats away for free for the last couple games.

24 and 25 are just abysmal.
24 does have a handful of northeastern schools, which is nice. The bright side is you would hope UConn can provide a combined 7-8 wins for the home fans during 24/25.
 
This upcoming season is certainly the most attractive schedule of the three years, but overall it's a tough slate of games to sell season tickets against - particularly when you know the athletic department will be giving seats away for free for the last couple games.

24 and 25 are just abysmal.
This season is not bad. 2 ACC opponents, USF (former Big East opponent), and Utah State (competitive MW program) is a pretty solid slate. FIU and Sacred Heart don't do anything for me, but no program has six can't miss home games.
 
This season is not bad. 2 ACC opponents, USF (former Big East opponent), and Utah State (competitive MW program) is a pretty solid slate. FIU and Sacred Heart don't do anything for me, but no program has six can't miss home games.
Away games - even if the home slate isn't great at least some of the away games are driveable. I mean, they are all drivable but 4 in the Northeast and Maryland. That's nice.

2024
Maryland
Duke
Wake
UAB
UMass

2025
Syracuse
Purdue
Buffalo
Army

Ohio State
 
As to Rutgers, the Big Ten reached out to them and gave them specific areas to work on without promising them anything. Rutgers really didn't promote itself at all, other than responding the Big Ten request for information. It was made absolutely clear to them that if they talked about any of the discussion publicly any possibility to join the Big Ten would be lost.

( A friend of mine was aware of this as it was going on and would periodically casually allude to it. My response to that was to tell him he was delusional. As it turns out, he was aware of it in real time, but wouldn't say more. It's since been discussed publicly in several articles.)
According to this story, it was Rutgers who reached out to the Big Ten. Delaney told Rutgers there was less than a 10% chance that Rutgers would be added. Did Rutgers give up? No, they kept reaching out to Delaney and talking about how they could bring the NY market. Is UConn doing anything remotely like this?

"Prior to becoming Rutgers’ athletic director in 2009, Tim Pernetti reached out to Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany to ask a very bold question:

If the Big Ten expanded, would Rutgers, then a member of the Big East, get a real look?

Pernetti, a former media executive before going to work for his alma mater, knew that Rutgers held one significant advantage over every other expansion candidate — access to the New York TV market.

Delany’s response was firm and to the point. He told Pernetti that Rutgers had a single-digit percent chance of being invited to the Big Ten.

“Well, that’s good enough for me,” Pernetti replied.

Over time, Pernetti’s calls to Delany became more frequent. He’d call Delany early in the morning when the commissioner was usually on the treadmill, and talked about how Rutgers’ TV market would boost the Big Ten Network’s audience."


 
According to this story, it was Rutgers who reached out to the Big Ten. Delaney told Rutgers there was less than a 10% chance that Rutgers would be added. Did Rutgers give up? No, they kept reaching out to Delaney and talking about how they could bring the NY market. Is UConn doing anything remotely like this?

"Prior to becoming Rutgers’ athletic director in 2009, Tim Pernetti reached out to Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany to ask a very bold question:

If the Big Ten expanded, would Rutgers, then a member of the Big East, get a real look?

Pernetti, a former media executive before going to work for his alma mater, knew that Rutgers held one significant advantage over every other expansion candidate — access to the New York TV market.

Delany’s response was firm and to the point. He told Pernetti that Rutgers had a single-digit percent chance of being invited to the Big Ten.

“Well, that’s good enough for me,” Pernetti replied.

Over time, Pernetti’s calls to Delany became more frequent. He’d call Delany early in the morning when the commissioner was usually on the treadmill, and talked about how Rutgers’ TV market would boost the Big Ten Network’s audience."


Good long article here:
Delaney remembers it differently

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And here is how DelConte got TCU into the Big 12. DelConte didn't even have an appointment with Deloss Dodds, the Texas AD, when he went there with a binder all about TCU.

Again I ask the question, "What is UConn doing?" Note the similarity between this story and the Rutgers story. In both cases, they had AD's that really pushed for their school to be added.

"The story begins 2 ½ years ago during the latest round of conference realignment. Pittsburgh and Syracuse had just announced they were leaving the Big East for the ACC. The Big East, at that point, was hanging by a thread. It was a Big East that TCU was also scheduled to join.

“Syracuse and Pitt announced they were leaving and shocked everybody ...", Del Conte said. “Mack Brown and DeLoss Dodds came out and said, ‘We’re going to stay [in the Big 12].’

“Once I heard that I said, ‘OK, boy, let’s go.’ We had two weeks to make this work.”

Del Conte admitted, “the pressure of the entire institution was on my shoulders” to join the Big 12. He worked the phones, calling every Big 12 contact he knew. Support within the Big 12 was growing, including at Oklahoma where good friend Joe Castiglione had been encouraging. But Del Conte knew if he didn’t have Texas, he didn’t have a chance.

“I’ve got one shot,” he recounted, “to go see DeLoss.”

It was a quite a visit. Del Conte grabbed a car, a driver and a bunch of reference material, binders, extolling the advantages of TCU and Fort Worth.

“I get up at 8 o’clock in the morning and drive to Darrell K. Royal Stadium. I get to [Dodds’] office. Nine comes around, 10 comes around. I’ve got a GA [graduate assistant] outside waiting for me, by the way. I tell him, ‘Just wait 10 minutes I’ll be back.’ Pretty soon it’s 3:30

“[DeLoss] comes out and says, ‘Who are you?’ Chris Del Conte, Texas Christian U. He doesn’t hear ‘Chris.’ he hears ‘Del’. ‘Del, let’s go get ourselves a drink and discuss it.’

“We went to a restaurant and had a little libation at 3:30. By the time 8:30 rolls around, we were [into it] pretty good but we got ourselves in a situation. I kept trying to give him my [binders]. He said, ‘I’ve heard enough, Del’ and just walked away.”

The Big 12 ADs had a conference call the next day.

“The next morning I got up. Joe [Castiglione] goes, ‘I don’t know what you did but it worked.’ We got the vote. The Frogs are in,’ Del Conte said.

 
And here is Jurich working to get Louisville into the ACC. Note the sense of urgency on the part of the AD, just like in the case of TCU and Rutgers. Also, Jurich canceled his trip to the Bahamas; Warde Manuel and Susan Herbst did not cancel their trip.

"Then, on the morning of Nov. 17, Jurich learned that Rutgers and Maryland were expected to join the Big Ten. Suddenly, the situation became more urgent, the opportunity more realistic.

Jurich canceled his trip to the Bahamas, where Louisville's basketball team was playing in the Battle 4 Atlantis tournament, and he combed through the contact list he had gathered over 24 years as an athletic director.

He made progress with with Florida State athletics director Randy Spetman, whom he had befriended when Spetman was at Air Force and Jurich was at Colorado State. He found an ally in Syracuse athletics director Daryl Gross, a fellow Big East AD who had navigated through realignment just one year earlier.

Ramsey, who was an economics professor at the University of North Carolina, said his connection to the university helped, too. Still, they had to convince the ACC that Louisville was a better option than Connecticut, which seemed to have the advantage in academics, geography and market size.

"We were definitely the underdogs," Jurich said. "People had UConn not penciled in, but penned in."

 
And here is Jurich working to get Louisville into the ACC. Note the sense of urgency on the part of the AD, just like in the case of TCU and Rutgers. Also, Jurich canceled his trip to the Bahamas; Warde Manuel and Susan Herbst did not cancel their trip.

"Then, on the morning of Nov. 17, Jurich learned that Rutgers and Maryland were expected to join the Big Ten. Suddenly, the situation became more urgent, the opportunity more realistic.

Jurich canceled his trip to the Bahamas, where Louisville's basketball team was playing in the Battle 4 Atlantis tournament, and he combed through the contact list he had gathered over 24 years as an athletic director.

He made progress with with Florida State athletics director Randy Spetman, whom he had befriended when Spetman was at Air Force and Jurich was at Colorado State. He found an ally in Syracuse athletics director Daryl Gross, a fellow Big East AD who had navigated through realignment just one year earlier.

Ramsey, who was an economics professor at the University of North Carolina, said his connection to the university helped, too. Still, they had to convince the ACC that Louisville was a better option than Connecticut, which seemed to have the advantage in academics, geography and market size.

"We were definitely the underdogs," Jurich said. "People had UConn not penciled in, but penned in."

It was a bad look for Susan and Warde, no doubt about it, but Jurich's victory lap notwithstanding, I wonder how much of it was based upon FSU's desire to flex it's muscles against Tobacco Road. Still, one wonders whether things would've been different if we were plugging away instead of sipping piña coladas.


The Pina Colada Song (UConn version)*

I am tired of our conference, I mean it does kind of suck.
But I don't see a way out, without a whole lotta luck.
How did we get here, when were really hot?
I thought back on how Louisville got the last P5 spot:

Warde had Pina Coladas, while watching girl's basketball.
He did not do any lobbying which is what caused us to fall.
If you like being in a real conference, with teams that you've known for years,
Don't trust the fan of the donuts or you'll end up in tears.

Now I don't blame Suzy, I know it sounds kind of mean,
But I expect that a "rock star" would have known the routine.
Nothing is given, to those who sit back and wait.
And when you think where the blame lies, it's not up for debate...

Warde had Pina Coladas, while watching girl's basketball.
He should have been working, but he was dropping the ball.
So now we're stuck playing Tulsa and likely will be for years.
We trusted the fan of the donuts and it ended in tears.

* Written during the dark days of our membership in the AAC.
 
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One significant issue that we've had for longer than the four and a half decades that I've followed the school and it's athletic programs is that every time we show a little ambition people on the state's government, residents of the state, members of the school's administration and members of the BOT start getting very nervous. We fight ourselves as much as we compete with others in attempts to improve the school.
 
One significant issue that we've had for longer than the four and a half decades that I've followed the school and it's athletic programs is that every time we show a little ambition people on the state's government, residents of the state, members of the school's administration and members of the BOT start getting very nervous. We fight ourselves as much as we compete with others in attempts to improve the school.
That's why A.D. Dave has to act with stealth: publicly saying nothing & moving mountains behind the scenes in concert with President Radenka...
 
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We need help in the back room deals department.

Shalala wouldn’t even take Herbst’s phone call back in the day. They even tried to reach her through Bill Clinton’s office.
Yup. I believe Calhoun called Clinton personally to see if he could persuade Shalala take the call but she wouldn’t budge. Probably one of the strangest moments in our conference realignment saga.
 
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Yup. I believe Calhoun called Clinton personally to see if he could persuade Shalala take the call but she wouldn’t budge. Probably one of the strangest moments in our conference realignment saga.
I've never heard that before. With your confidence level in it?
 
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Probably a dumb question, but...

why would the Big 12 consider Gonzaga? I know they are good at men's hoops, but football? Any other sport?
 
Probably a dumb question, but...

why would the Big 12 consider Gonzaga? I know they are good at men's hoops, but football? Any other sport?
To get into the Pacific Time Zone.

"Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark continues to remain steadfast on the idea of the conference eventually getting itself into the pacific time zone.

“We’d love to get into that fourth (Pacific) time zone and we will at some point.”

“I want to truly be a national conference in every respect, both brand and geographic footprint.”

In March, Yormark said:

“I like Gonzaga,” the commissioner said. “But I think as I prioritize what our next move might be on expansion, there’s other things right now that I’m focused on.” (Pac 12 schools)
 
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