Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[ZooCougar]

125 million or so. We could raise that quickly.

Yeah but that number would be negotiated down. I highly doubt they would have to pay the whole $125M.

The GOR isn’t stopping anything when leaving is more lucrative than staying after a negotiated settlement.

 

[Stinger92860]

I believe that Maryland never signed the GOR and only had to pay a $30+ M exit fee. The exit fee is now supposedly in the $70M range plus GOR.

If accurate, and I think it is, who was the last team to break a GOR? It must be a short list.

 

[goldendomer]

I'm not going to lie, I love the idea that ND could potentially end up paying 9 figures for the privilege of joining the conference they spent 75+years trying to avoid.

Lol, it is interesting. But I bet we get help paying it.

 

[Rufus]

goldendomer, if Notre Dame joins the Big Ten, who would be the best +1 to join with them? Stanford?

I’m guessing Notre Dame will have some sway in who they bring along with them.

 

[goldendomer]

goldendomer, if Notre Dame joins the Big Ten, who would be the best +1 to join with them? Stanford?

I’m guessing Notre Dame will have some sway in who they bring along with them.

I loathe Stanford, but probably. If we could squeeze a FL team in than we would be stoked.

 

[Eavesdrop]

If accurate, and I think it is, who was the last team to break a GOR? It must be a short list.

No school has broken a grant of right rights to date. Many last summer just assumed Texas and Oklahoma could negotiate out. The Big 12 had/has little to no reason to oblige. Hence the Sooners and Longhorns will be playing a Big 12 schedule in 2022. My guess is that both will again in 2023.

Notre Dame seems to be in a much a different position. The Irish granted their media rights to the ACC only for their Olympic sports. I suspect they could easily absorb that loss.

 

[bobbyinaz]

 

[jostar1]

 

[hoopsfan22]

If ND doesn't take the life ring the B1G has tossed them, they are insane. I'll bet the B1G is secretly hoping that one of ND's demands is that Stanford come with because the only thing better than landing ND is getting Stanford.

 

[BigTenFan]

If ND doesn't take the life ring the B1G has tossed them, they are insane. I'll bet the B1G is secretly hoping that one of ND's demands is that Stanford come with because the only thing better than landing ND is getting Stanford.

Stanford and ND would make sense academically and athletically

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Should UConn go for broke and try to get into the Pac12. If UCLA can travel to NJ and MD, UConn could travel to Calif.

 

[Stinger92860]

All expansion options!! We are headed to the PAC East!

 

[shizzle787]

All expansion options!! We are headed to the PAC East!

Not interested. Much rather be in an ACC post UNC, Miami, Florida State, and Clemson.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Not interested. Much rather be in an ACC post UNC, Miami, Florida State, and Clemson.

It won't be so bad being part of PAC-12. At minimal, we will be associated with a bunch of quality universities.

My hope is B1G just go for Florida St and ND, which should trigger the end game for the ACC. ACC will be imploding with a bunch of ACC rats on a sinking ship. UCONN will most likely end up with a watered down version of the ACC leftovers.

 

[metsfan2323]

UCONN will most likely end up with a watered down version of the ACC leftovers.

Joining a watered down ACC would be a huge improvement for football. Join BC, Cuse, Wake Forest, NC State, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Louisville, and any other ACC schools that don't get upgraded. Add Army and Navy. That would be a fun football league. Pretty much where we were 10 years ago.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Joining a watered down ACC would be a huge improvement for football. Join BC, Cuse, Wake Forest, NC State, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Louisville, and any other ACC schools that don't get upgraded. Add Army and Navy. That would be a fun football league. Pretty much where we were 10 years ago.

I agree that's most likely the only option left for UCONN. The only thing is if I am the PAC-12, I might as well explore a nationwide conference. If they want to expand, they should just expand across the country to match the B1G. I doubt any PAC-12 schools right now feel secure since every other member will be looking for a life boat. If I am Oregon St, Arizona St, or Washington St, I would push hard to expand to 16 or 20 if possible. It is just a matter of time before schools like Oregon and Washington leave, so PAC-12 might as well expand as big as possible before the next media deal negotiation.

 

[metsfan2323]

I agree that's most likely the only option left for UCONN. The only thing is if I am the PAC-12, I might as well explore a nationwide conference. If they want to expand, they should just expand across the country to match the B1G. I doubt any PAC-12 schools right now feel secure since every other member will be looking for a life boat. If I am Oregon St, Arizona St, or Washington St, I would push hard to expand to 16 or 20 if possible. It is just a matter of time before schools like Oregon and Washington leave, so PAC-12 might as well expand as big as possible before the next media deal negotiation.

Maybe the end result is the two monster leagues North and South, and two lesser leagues one notch below them East and West. A true coast to coast conference is a hard sell if the huge paycheck isn't there to pay for the travel.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Maybe the end result is the two Monster leagues North and South, and two lesser leagues one notch below them East and West. A true coat to coast conference is a hard sell if the huge paycheck isn't there.

Even if the payout isn't there, but the choice facing these many schools will be either expand to have some bodies or be left behind when more valuable schools just get up and leave. You can bet your ass Cal, Stanford, Washington, and Oregon are working hard behind the scenes to get into the B1G. I doubt Arizona ad Colorado are standing pat either. It is every school for itself at this point. While PAC-12 is still together, they should use the opportunity to raid the B12 and maybe the ACC if B1G can get Florida St and ND to leave.

 

[metsfan2323]

Hopefully the next move to be made is the ACC also expanding to 16 schools with Kansas and UCONN. The fear would be they instead choose Kansas and West Virginia.

 

[Stinger92860]

Joining a watered down ACC would be a huge improvement for football. Join BC, Cuse, Wake Forest, NC State, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Louisville, and any other ACC schools that don't get upgraded. Add Army and Navy. That would be a fun football league. Pretty much where we were 10 years ago.

You list 7 ACC schools. Can the other 7+ND go to the SEC and B1G?

Forgetting about the GOR. That would require ND+3 to the B1G (Duke, UNC, UVA?) and 4 to the SEC (Clemson, FSU, Miami, VA Tech, or GTech)?

I can’t see the B1G taking 4 teams from the ACC, but after yesterday who knows. The SEC already has teams in FL, GA, and SC.

 

[bobbyinaz]

 

[Stinger92860]

Hopefully the next move to be made is the ACC also expanding to 16 schools with Kansas and UCONN. The fear would be they instead choose Kansas and West Virginia.

The ACC needs to be bolder than adding 2 schools. The ACC needs to kill the B12 like they did the Big East.

Adding 5+ teams from the B12 ends the B12 and puts the PAC in a tough spot. Could the ACC go after TTU, Baylor, Kansas, WVU, and Oklahoma State? Could they go 6 and we get in? They need to act boldly and kill the B12.

They don’t want a B12 and PAC merger, then will be the losers. They can‘t place their future in the hands of ND.

I know thats 20, but it helps protect them to some degree from poaching and gives them a chance to survive in 2035. If the end goal is super leagues this is the right move.

 

[DFW HOYA]

The ACC can't be bold because ESPN has already cast its lots with the SEC. They are no longer the hunter, but the hunted.

 

[CTBballfan243]

Ok

Hopefully the next move to be made is the ACC also expanding to 16 schools with Kansas and UCONN. The fear would be they instead choose Kansas and West Virginia.

i would be shocked if the ACC did anything right now. Why expand??? However if they do expand it will be with WVU and Kansas. That is the logical move, and unfortunately for UConn, the smart move. Both schools are signicantly better than UConn at football.

 

[bobbyinaz]

The ACC can't be bold because ESPN has already cast its lots with the SEC. They are no longer the hunter, but the hunted.

This sums everything up pretty simply.

ESPN and/or FOX will decide how this shakes out just as they have with every other move that has been made in realignment.

ESPN already has some history in deciding which conferences and schools survive and which ones don't. It's very well known that FOX is all in on college sports and now owns one of the 2 prized whales.

They will determine which of the Little 3 survive just as they will determine which schools currently on the outside get in.

It's always been about the money. Now they just don't try and pretend to hide it.