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jostar1 said:
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"UConn has deemphasized football" is a continued lazy, lazy take that most sports journalists keep putting out there. Why? This take maybe made sense in the month after the Big East move, but so much has happened since then, and it's clear AD David Benedict is looking for a permanent solution. The team went to a bowl last year. Infuriating but not surprising
 
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huskymedic said:
>> Let me help ^^^

Note: Tramel has not been a UConn fan over the years (since Fiesta Bowl days)
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I hate the reoccurring narrative that we "deemphasized football". We have great on-campus facilities, just hired an outstanding coach in Jim Mora, and have a 40,000 seat stadium. How is that deemphasizing football?

If the notion is that by leaving the American, an absolute s.hitshow of a conference, deemphasizes football, then would joining the big 12 reemphasize football?
 
CL82 said:
I hate the reoccurring narrative that we "deemphasized football". We have great on-campus facilities, just hired an outstanding coach in Jim Mora, and have a 40,000 seat stadium. How is that deemphasizing football?

If the notion is that by leaving the American, an absolute s.hitshow of a conference, deemphasizes football, then would joining the big 12 reemphasize football?
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Pundits get paid to spew any thought that'll create clicks, sigh. I really don't get tied up in their opinions but draw the line and reply to said posts when they throw around inaccurate info/facts. Even that has become a part time job.
 
CL82 said:
I hate the reoccurring narrative that we "deemphasized football". We have great on-campus facilities, just hired an outstanding coach in Jim Mora, and have a 40,000 seat stadium. How is that deemphasizing football?

If the notion is that by leaving the American, an absolute s.hitshow of a conference, deemphasizes football, then would joining the big 12 reemphasize football?
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Lazy journalists are lazy. They are easily manipulated. They have been manipulated into believing UConn gave up on football. They can become evangelists if fed the right information.

I'd love to see UConn put out an aggressive puff piece about the football program. Show the long history (we didn't start a team from scratch when moving to D1), the accelerated move to D1, and the unprecedented speed of success. Own the hiring of a few bad coaches and compare it to others that made the same mistakes (without naming the programs). Show how pissed off fans were because they care. Then show the rebirth and excitement while tying it in to how successful every program at UConn is. For "journalists" (I use that term lightly) that are deemed to be truly influential, get the AD in front of them with the full PR press. I guarantee these bozos will become huge fans.

Should we need to do that? No, of course not. But we've seen what happens when we let competitors form our narrative and jump in front of us.
 
huskymedic said:
>> Let me help ^^^

Note: Tramel has not been a UConn fan over the years (since Fiesta Bowl days)
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So infuriating! Why is UConn joining the B12 "inconceivable" when KU is considered a premier B12 brand yet its demo is smaller than CT, has 3 MBB NCs in the past 30 years vs 5 for UConn and has been to the same number of BCS games as UConn during the same time period (despite being in a Power Conference for decades). Yormark sees the future. He's right; a dominant basketball league with very solid football, and new teams from larger markets is the only way to try to remain remotely competitive with the P2 (that said, I can't see a basketball only school in a small demo like the Zags, being part of the equation).
 
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mikeinmanila said:
So infuriating! Why is UConn joining the B12 "inconceivable" when KU is considered a premier B12 brand yet its demo is smaller than CT, has 3 MBB NCs in the past 30 years vs 5 for UConn and has been to the same number of BCS games as UConn during the same time period (despite being in a Power Conference for decades). Yormark sees the future. He's right; a dominant basketball league with very solid football, and new teams from larger markets is the only way to try to remain remotely competitive with the P2 (that said, I can't see a basketball only school in a small demo like the Zags, being part of the equation).
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May AD Dave or Jim Mora can reach out to the “key” journalists and explain why the lazy narrative wrong for Football It cannot hurt. UConn AD lurkers, can you help make this happen please?
 
It is lazy journalism but the lazy part is in lack of imagination or vision. The conclusion many jumped to (even our then football head coach, who never got past it) was that by leaving a conference that played football for one that didn't play football we were giving up on the idea of being a football school.

They never took into account the economics of the second AAC media contract (which would have provided slightly more revenue to all other members while stripping us of the tier three revenue we were receiving on our own) or that we could build a quality schedule as an independent.

Blowing our own horn now would be a bad idea as whatever we accomplish on the football field will then be dissected and only the warts will be commented on as a means to diminish anything we may have done. We need to quietly demonstrate on the field, beginning this fall that we are on a path where we could be very competitive in a conference like the B-12.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
It is lazy journalism but the lazy part is in lack of imagination or vision. The conclusion many jumped to (even our then football head coach, who never got past it) was that by leaving a conference that played football for one that didn't play football we were giving up on the idea of being a football school.

They never took into account the economics of the second AAC media contract (which would have provided slightly more revenue to all other members while stripping us of the tier three revenue we were receiving on our own) or that we could build a quality schedule as an independent.

Blowing our own horn now would be a bad idea as whatever we accomplish on the football field will then be dissected and only the warts will be commented on as a means to diminish anything we may have done. We need to quietly demonstrate on the field, beginning this fall that we are on a path where we could be very competitive in a conference like the B-12.
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And playing as an independent gave us flexibility in scheduling so that our home games were, at least theoretically a better product. It also put waste to the notion that "no one wants to come to Storrs." As we've seen plenty of good schools are interested in playing here.
 
Urcea said:
"UConn has deemphasized football" is a continued lazy, lazy take that most sports journalists keep putting out there. Why? This take maybe made sense in the month after the Big East move, but so much has happened since then, and it's clear AD David Benedict is looking for a permanent solution. The team went to a bowl last year. Infuriating but not surprising
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FfldCntyFan said:
It is lazy journalism but the lazy part is in lack of imagination or vision. The conclusion many jumped to (even our then football head coach, who never got past it) was that by leaving a conference that played football for one that didn't play football we were giving up on the idea of being a football school.

They never took into account the economics of the second AAC media contract (which would have provided slightly more revenue to all other members while stripping us of the tier three revenue we were receiving on our own) or that we could build a quality schedule as an independent.

Blowing our own horn now would be a bad idea as whatever we accomplish on the football field will then be dissected and only the warts will be commented on as a means to diminish anything we may have done. We need to quietly demonstrate on the field, beginning this fall that we are on a path where we could be very competitive in a conference like the B-12.
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It's lazy mostly. There is some truth to how UConn has manuevered its athletic dept to showcase football compared to other G5 schools like UCF, Cincy and Houston. Most athletic depts use football as the tail that wags the dog. UConn went a different route. Suggesting UConn emphasizes football as its face of the athletic dept has truth to it.
 
CL82 said:
And playing as an independent gave us flexibility in scheduling so that our home games were, at least theoretically a better product. It also put waste to the notion that "no one wants to come to Storrs." As we've seen plenty of good schools are interested in playing here.
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In all candor the quality of our scheduling as an independent has been far better than I could have hoped for when it was announced that we were returning to the BE.

82, you have an open invitation to any home game. It will only cost you time. I'll provide tickets and you can eat and drink at my tailgate.
 
Bottom line is that "emphasizing" is one thing, but a consistent winning tradition is 99% of it. At the end of the day, the bottom line is you have to continually be competitive in football to get noticed, and be a candidate to move up.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Pundits get paid to spew any thought that'll create clicks, sigh. I really don't get tied up in their opinions but draw the line and reply to said posts when they throw around inaccurate info/facts. Even that has become a part time job.
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I'm not on twitter, but I've thought about emailing these guys, with a link to our on-campus facilities. They are P5 level. I don't think they even know about that.
 
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Chuck said:
Lazy journalists are lazy. They are easily manipulated. They have been manipulated into believing UConn gave up on football. They can become evangelists if fed the right information.

I'd love to see UConn put out an aggressive puff piece about the football program. Show the long history (we didn't start a team from scratch when moving to D1), the accelerated move to D1, and the unprecedented speed of success. Own the hiring of a few bad coaches and compare it to others that made the same mistakes (without naming the programs). Show how pissed off fans were because they care. Then show the rebirth and excitement while tying it in to how successful every program at UConn is. For "journalists" (I use that term lightly) that are deemed to be truly influential, get the AD in front of them with the full PR press. I guarantee these bozos will become huge fans.
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Stinger92860 said:
May AD Dave or Jim Mora can reach out to the “key” journalists and explain why the lazy narrative wrong for Football It cannot hurt. UConn AD lurkers, can you help make this happen please?
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This is exactly what UConn needs to do. They need to start planting stories. The journalists have obviously read the articles about Benedict saying that it would be a difficult decision, because they've referenced them, so they would read these stories, too. Also, throw in a discussion of UConn+ and that we are ready for digital streaming or being part of a network. That UConn has P5 facilities, although most other schools and fans probably don't know it.

Lastly, UConn needs to update the athletic department website with videos of Werth, Burton, and Shenkman. There may be one video and a few photos, but they really need to showcase them.

Go back and read the stories of how Chris DelConte got TCU into the Big 12, how Tim Pernetti got Rutgers into the B1G, and Jurich got Louisville into the ACC. They didn't sit around and do nothing. They promoted their schools.
 
jostar1 said:
This is exactly what UConn needs to do. They need to start planting stories. The journalists have obviously read the articles about Benedict saying that it would be a difficult decision, because they've referenced them, so they would read these stories, too. Also, throw in a discussion of UConn+ and that we are ready for digital streaming or being part of a network. That UConn has P5 facilities, although most other schools and fans probably don't know it.

Lastly, UConn needs to update the athletic department website with videos of Werth, Burton, and Shenkman. There may be one video and a few photos, but they really need to showcase them.

Go back and read the stories of how Chris DelConte got TCU into the Big 12, how Tim Pernetti got Rutgers into the B1G, and Jurich got Louisville into the ACC. They didn't sit around and do nothing. They promoted their schools.
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You can "plant" multiple stories galore but no one is going to forget the poor quality of the football team during the 2010s and beyond until Mora showed up. This why some of us on the Boneyard were so critical of the team then while others found lots of rationalizations for the team's record. There must be accountability for the dumpster fire of a program and a clear path forward so we have conference options ahead. And when we bring up a possible on campus football stadium, we really have UConn's long-term outlook at heart.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
In all candor the quality of our scheduling as an independent has been far better than I could have hoped for when it was announced that we were returning to the BE.

82, you have an open invitation to any home game. It will only cost you time. I'll provide tickets and you can eat and drink at my tailgate.
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The home schedule was always going to be a tough job and AD Dave did a very nice job the last couple years but the next three seasons are dreadful.

23: NC State, Duke, FIU, Utah State, USF, Sacred Heart

24: Army, FAU, Buffalo, Temple, Georgia State

25: Central, Ball State, FIU, UAB, UMass
 
ConnHuskBask said:
The home schedule was always going to be a tough job and AD Dave did a very nice job the last couple years but the next three seasons are dreadful.

23: NC State, Duke, FIU, Utah State, USF, Sacred Heart

24: Army, FAU, Buffalo, Temple, Georgia State

25: Central, Ball State, FIU, UAB, UMass
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The home games this season aren't easy. UConn has NEVER beaten the Wolfpack or Aggies. Duke has been VERY competative as late. The only "guaranteed wins" are FIU, USF, & Sacred Heart, & that's only if UConn makes measurable leaps in Coach Mora's 2nd year & the team avoids the injury plague.
 
coachcap said:
The home games this season aren't easy. UConn has NEVER beaten the Wolfpack or Aggies. Duke has been VERY competative as late. The only "guaranteed wins" are FIU, USF, & Sacred Heart, & that's only if UConn makes measurable leaps in Coach Mora's 2nd year & the team avoids the injury plague.
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This upcoming season is certainly the most attractive schedule of the three years, but overall it's a tough slate of games to sell season tickets against - particularly when you know the athletic department will be giving seats away for free for the last couple games.

24 and 25 are just abysmal.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
And when we bring up a possible on campus football stadium, we really have UConn's long-term outlook at heart.
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There's very little chance of development for an on campus football stadium. Rt 195 can barely handle traffic for a game at Gampel. With only 6 dates a year, Rentschler is a home that is accessible to current students and alumni when you consider an all day event that includes tailgating. The student body in Storrs isn't large enough to justify another 30-40k stadium when they already have one relatively nearby - albeit P&W Stadium will need to be upgraded prior to a first game in the B12.
 
DblCrossbar said:
There's very little chance of development for an on campus football stadium. Rt 195 can barely handle traffic for a game at Gampel. With only 6 dates a year, Rentschler is a home that is accessible to current students and alumni when you consider an all day event that includes tailgating. The student body in Storrs isn't large enough to justify another 30-40k stadium when they already have one relatively nearby - albeit P&W Stadium will need to be upgraded prior to a first game in the B12.
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I understand your concerns, but some day take a drive on Discovery Drive located on the UConn campus. It is a wide roadway that leads to Route 44. It has plenty of room there for a stadium and tailgating. Route 195 could be closed to all but local traffic during home games. Let the motorists use 44 to get home. The new stadium and related buildings could also be used by the new innovation partnership building and related uses that tie UConn's research with corporations. Try to keep an open mind. Let Central CT take over the Rent. It's close to their lovely campus.
 
jostar1 said:
Go back and read the stories of how Chris DelConte got TCU into the Big 12, how Tim Pernetti got Rutgers into the B1G
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As to Rutgers, the Big Ten reached out to them and gave them specific areas to work on without promising them anything. Rutgers really didn't promote itself at all, other than responding the Big Ten request for information. It was made absolutely clear to them that if they talked about any of the discussion publicly any possibility to join the Big Ten would be lost.

( A friend of mine was aware of this as it was going on and would periodically casually allude to it. My response to that was to tell him he was delusional. As it turns out, he was aware of it in real time, but wouldn't say more. It's since been discussed publicly in several articles.)
 
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