Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[CL82]

the numbers in post 9,058 don't really bear that out. Someone riding the pine at Alabama can certainly go to a lesser program and be a star. Guys who are playing great at a lesser program, I am not so sure so many of them are going to transfer to Alabama where they could risk being relegated to bench duty. Alabama can only have so many starters and needs ditch diggers too.

Yeah, I’m not sure that that is the conclusion that should be drawn from those numbers. They are entirely consistent with the wheat being separated from the chaff at top programs. I suppose as we get more history it will become more clear.

(Lol, that we are closing in on 10,000 key tweet posts.)

 

[uconndogs]

There are tons of examples of transfers who left top programs and went on to star at other programs. This past year, Cincy’s top RB, Jerome Ford, was a transfer from Alabama and drafted in the 5th round. And, what about Justin Fields (Georgia to Ohio St.) 1st round pick, Jalen Hurts (Alabama to Oklahoma) 2nd round pick, Wandale Robinson (Nebraska to Kentucky) 2nd round pick, Malik Willis (Auburn to Liberty) 3rd round, Joe Flacco ( Pitt to Delaware) 1st round, Josh McCown (SMU to Sam Houston St.) 3rd round.

As for teams, #4 Cincy had 7 P5 transfers on the roster this year, #16 Louisiana had 9 P5 transfers, #17 Houston had 14 P5 transfers, #24 Utah St. had 10 P5 transfers, #25 San Diego St. had 5 P5 transfers. SMU had 18 P5 transfers. The transfer portal has become a huge opportunity for schools to upgrade their talent. UConn under Edsall was just slow to adjust to the changing landscape.

Yeah.....well, we're talking past each other on this. I don't see how the current system as it develops doesn't foster a further concentration of the best talent at the top programs.

I agree that second tier programs that are proactive will be able to improve their position relative to the rest of the second tier, but that has never been the point I was trying to make.

 

[UConnJim]

Yeah.....well, we're talking past each other on this. I don't see how the current system as it develops doesn't foster a further concentration of the best talent at the top programs.

I agree that second tier programs that are proactive will be able to improve their position relative to the rest of the second tier, but that has never been the point I was trying to make.

I'll leave you with one final point. I believe the top talent is already concentrated at the top of the P5. In the 2021 HS recruiting class, 69 out of the top 100 recruits went to 7 schools: Alabama, Ohio St., LSU, Georgia, USC, Oregon, and Florida. Of the Top 500 2021 recruits, 6 went to a G5 school or 1.2%. Of the 7 P5 schools, they had a combined 3 G5 transfers on their rosters in 2021. I believe the top schools will continue to dominate high level high school recruiting and at the margin take on transfers and those transfers will probably be from other P5 schools. I don't think NIL will change what is going on as the top schools will participate to maintain their position in college football.

 

[Ldandy]

The portal is both good and bad depending on your perspective at the time. Let's take Pitt for example. A few months ago Kedon Slovis fell into their lap. The Portal is great. Flash forward and USC Boosters are flat out trying to buy Jordan Addison off of their roster. The Portal is the worst thing ever. LOL. Overall I think there is more benefit to G5 and lower Tier P5 Programs as there are more players than ever in the Portal that could potentially fill a hole on a roster with a college ready player. Fans will need to come to grips with cheering for the names on the front of the uniform not the back. If these teams get a breakout star, there's a good chance that someone higher up the food chain will lure them away with an NIL Deal. This sucks but it is what it is when the organization tasked with enforcing rules in college athletics decides to punt on the issue altogether.

 

[billybud]

The cost of Division I could be going up...

 

[superjohn]

The cost of Division I could be going up...

Don't really see how this impacts parity in college basketball.

 

[uconndogs]

The cost of Division I could be going up...

That should just about do it........

That, NIL and the transfer portal (no sitting) will assure talent is fully concentrated where the money is.

Very sad........

 

[billybud]

Don't really see how this impacts parity in college basketball.

I could affect other sports than football..

...want to be good in baseball ? Put everyone on a full scholly. Not 11.7 scholarships spread amongst as many as 27 players...more $$$ to be competitive. Unlimited players, unlimited schollies if it comes to pass.

Soccer..men's capped at 9 currently...got money? Pay for 25.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I could affect other sports than football..

...want to be good in baseball ? Put everyone on a full scholly. Not 11.7 scholarships spread amongst as many as 27 players...more $$$ to be competitive. Unlimited players, unlimited schollies if it comes to pass.

Soccer..men's capped at 9 currently...got money? Pay for 25.

Keep in mind the Title IX implications so whatever additional $$$ you were expecting to spend to be competitive; double it.

 

[billybud]

Keep in mind the Title IX implications so whatever additional $$$ you were expecting to spend to be competitive; double it.

Only the Big Ten and SEC could afford to pull it off.

 

[Rufus]

Money really does matter. Look at Rutgers. They are having their best year in school history across all sports. Their second best year across all sports? Last year.

 

[buddy]

Money really does matter. Look at Rutgers. They are having their best year in school history across all sports. Their second best year across all sports? Last year.

You guys hit the jackpot for sure!

 

[shizzle787]

UConn will get in on this. Even if it means cutting another men's sport to add the full complement of scholarships for hockey, baseball, and soccer.

 

[Fairfield_1st]

UConn will get in on this. Even if it means cutting another men's sport to add the full complement of scholarships for hockey, baseball, and soccer.

Oh no, that means our "budget shortfall" will increase. Oh the humanity.

 

[Storrs South]

This is part of a longer thread that talks about a lot of things NCAA related but if you are someone that wants UConn in the ACC, I think a couple spots will be opening up down the road. Too lazy to post rest of thread but it's all very interesting.

 

[bobbyinaz]

Don't really see how this impacts parity in college basketball.

The unlimited number of coaches applies to all sports not just football

What happens when Duke, Kentucky & Kansas start hiring mothers/fathers/guardians as coaches?

Yes it's been done plenty before with Danny Mannings father & Jimmy Salmons taking Tim Thomas to Nova but, with unlimited coaches it's another way for the big money schools to funnel cash to kids and their families.

What's to stop Squid from hiring the parents of all the top 10 kids as coaches?

 

[Waquoit]

What's to stop Squid from hiring the parents of all the top 10 kids as coaches?

Everything old is new again. That's how the local LL champs kept their "Dynasty" going back in the day.

 

[Rufus]

What do you think happens to Florida State, Clemson and Miami when the ACC GOR winds down? Does the SEC go after them to lockdown the southeast football powers? Does the B1G go after them to establish a media presence in the southeast and have more traditional football powers to keep up with the SEC? Will AAU membership still matter to the B1G in the race with the SEC?

 

[billybud]

From ND AD Jack Swarbrick - "We're getting to a two solar system model here. You have two suns with all the gravitational pull -- the Big Ten and the SEC. People are going to have to figure out how to align with one or the other.”

 

[Rufus]

Revenue gap is ‘top of mind’ for ACC, but disparity will only grow larger

FERNADINA BEACH, Fla.— Throughout the late 2000s and early 2010s, officials within the ACC constantly fought rumors and speculation about the conference’s demise. Every few months, it seemed, brought another

www.postguam.com

 

[buddy]

Turns out that Maryland hit the jackpot too!

 

[CAtlantic]

 

[billybud]

"Several athletic administrators and college sports insiders discussed the Transfer Committee’s concepts under the condition of anonymity. They include (1) eliminating scholarship caps on sports that offer only partial scholarships; (2) abolishing the limitation on the number of coaches per team; (3) expanding direct payments from schools to athletes; (4) reconfiguring the recruiting calendar; and (5) implementing closed periods in the NCAA transfer portal. At least the first three items will be left in the decision-making hands of individual conferences, if the concepts are approved."

Note...the "first three items will be left in the decision making hands of individual conferences" would further skew the college football world...

 

[CAtlantic]

 

[Ha Who]

Can I put ESPN on ignore?