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Well, the entire state of Connecticut is a par-four, so probably not. ;-)

I just checked our golf sched. They play a ten event season. Host one event in Ellington, otherwise it's all on the road. They play in NY, Nebraska, Florida twice, twice more in CT (once hosted by UHart and once by Yale) and a couple other places that aren't CT. Methinks it's not a big deal to be in the Big XII for golf.
 
Attendance will be held against Uconn. I don't care if it was against the CAA, somehow, someway, there needed to be close to a full stadium there. I would have given away tickets and paid for the buses for every pop warner and high school team within a 90 minute drive to pack the stadium last week. If UVA and Cuse are less than 35k, that would be way more important than any score in any game this year. Also need solid regional TV ratings for both those games.
I wrote an email to warde a few years back that they should award free tickets to honor students from inner city schools. Put on a tailgate for them the whole nine. I looked at it as way to expose kids to UConn football that wouldn't otherwise would be, while at the same time building the fan base and increasing attendance. Warde like the idea but it never materialized.

In many respects i feel that the school is always behind the curve. NOW ATTENDANCE IS CRITICAL? Now you're begging people to come out and buy tickets etc? There is never any creativity out the ticket office instead what you get is mistakes from them that frustrate people and lead them to drop their season tickets.
 
The Turner article has made its way to the Big 12 forums and doesn't exactly make folks excited for you all. If you actually read the article, it's not that bad - his summary is he doesn't think the Big 12 will take anybody, not that UConn isn't as or more qualified that anybody else. But all people are going to see is "Even the former UConn AD doesn't believe his old school can make the grade!!!" Believe me, that's all anybody in Big 12 land will see.

While Big 12 presidents aren't going to be swayed by random article...it's kind of odd that your local paper would put out essentially a negatively titled piece against the best interests of the university at this time that, in this environment, would be sure to get picked up and re-tweeted and posted to death right as UConn is about to make their final push.
It was a dick move from the Courant and Turner himself. Perceptions become reality. Soon the article will be spun to habe said that former UConn AD said "UConn doesnt belong" yada, yada, yada.
 
I just checked our golf sched. They play a ten event season. Host one event in Ellington, otherwise it's all on the road. They play in NY, Nebraska, Florida twice, twice more in CT (once hosted by UHart and once by Yale) and a couple other places that aren't CT. Methinks it's not a big deal to be in the Big XII for golf.

All these dopes have to do is look at the schedules for these sports to realize it is a non-issue, but their brain-dead thought process won't allow them to bother to click on a webpage. Baseball is the only sport other than Basketball that might require yearly travel. Soccer would but they don't have it. Indefensible.
 
All these dopes have to do is look at the schedules for these sports to realize it is a non-issue, but their brain-dead thought process won't allow them to bother to click on a webpage. Indefensible.

I don't think it's mandatory that any of the tournaments even feature conference opponents till the conference tournament anyway. If Texas doesn't want to send their team to the CT tournament I don't think they even have to.
 
I wrote an email to warde a few years back that they should award free tickets to honor students from inner city schools. Put on a tailgate for them the whole nine. I looked at it as way to expose kids to UConn football that wouldn't otherwise would be, while at the same time building the fan base and increasing attendance. Warde like the idea but it never materialized.

The problem is they may not be able to do that. I don't know much about recruiting, but Geno Auriemma made a phone call to a 13 year old 8th grade Little League baseball pitcher and got a slap on the wrist because she was too close to being a high school student. Who's to say that a football prospect is not among those receiving tickets? Even if they were honors middle schoolers, in smacks of toeing the line of a violation for an overseeing body already with an itchy trigger finger toward UConn.
 
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The problem is they may not be able to do that. I don't know much about recruiting, but Geno Auriemma made a phone call to a 13 year old 8th grade Little League baseball pitcher and got a slap on the wrist because she was too close to being a high school student. Who's to say that a football prospect is not among those receiving tickets? Even if they were honors middle schoolers, in smacks of toeing the line of a violation for an overseeing body already with an itchy trigger finger toward UConn.
Point is, we all saw where attendance took a HUGE hit. It was toward the end of P's 2nd year. By his last year they had a major problem. Diaco's first year didn't excite.

Try something. CR is too crucial to expect to get people back in the seats by SLOWLY improving the product.
 
The problem is they may not be able to do that. I don't know much about recruiting, but Geno Auriemma made a phone call to a 13 year old 8th grade Little League baseball pitcher and got a slap on the wrist because she was too close to being a high school student. Who's to say that a football prospect is not among those receiving tickets? Even if they were honors middle schoolers, in smacks of toeing the line of a violation for an overseeing body already with an itchy trigger finger toward UConn.
As long as it's offerred to non-prospects as well, it's fine.
 
I just checked our golf sched. They play a ten event season. Host one event in Ellington, otherwise it's all on the road. They play in NY, Nebraska, Florida twice, twice more in CT (once hosted by UHart and once by Yale) and a couple other places that aren't CT. Methinks it's not a big deal to be in the Big XII for golf.
People who talk about geography being an issue dont seem to actually look at the schedules of the non-revenue sports, a bunch of which arent round robin sports, and the only time you really see conference mates is the conference championship,
 
All these dopes have to do is look at the schedules for these sports to realize it is a non-issue, but their brain-dead thought process won't allow them to bother to click on a webpage. Baseball is the only sport other than Basketball that might require yearly travel. Soccer would but they don't have it. Indefensible.

Not to mention baseball teams at the level of the Big 12 and UConn already play a national schedule. The idea that somehow adding one game a year in CT is going to bankrupt a Big 12 program that's already playing dozens of games all over the country is absurd.
 
ThisIsUConnCountry‏@MattSchonvisky
President Herbst & the #UConn contingent who made the trip to Dallas will be presenting directly to Commissioner Bob Bowlsby #Big12Expansion

ThisIsUConnCountry ‏@MattSchonvisky 4m4 minutes ago
Have heard that Bowlsby & potentially expansion committee will be in the room, no other school Presidents which fits the narrative from July

ThisIsUConnCountry ‏@MattSchonvisky 3m3 minutes ago
After presentations conclude, committee & Bowlsby will present candidates that fit criteria to be voted on to the board #Big12Expansion

ThisIsUConnCountry ‏@MattSchonvisky 1m1 minute ago
And the board of course consists of all Big 12 school presidents #Big12Expansion
 
ThisIsUConnCountry‏@MattSchonvisky
President Herbst & the #UConn contingent who made the trip to Dallas will be presenting directly to Commissioner Bob Bowlsby #Big12Expansion

ThisIsUConnCountry ‏@MattSchonvisky 4m4 minutes ago
Have heard that Bowlsby & potentially expansion committee will be in the room, no other school Presidents which fits the narrative from July

ThisIsUConnCountry ‏@MattSchonvisky 3m3 minutes ago
After presentations conclude, committee & Bowlsby will present candidates that fit criteria to be voted on to the board #Big12Expansion

ThisIsUConnCountry ‏@MattSchonvisky 1m1 minute ago
And the board of course consists of all Big 12 school presidents #Big12Expansion
I think this thing has a looong way to go. The committee is going to present the presidents with any school that meets the criteria. It will probably be all of the assumed schools including UConn, UC, Houston, BYU, CSU, UCF/USF. Maybe even a few of the "really?" schools like SMU and Rice. They'll then argue over those schools until they get a consensus so they can vote unanimously. If Texas isn't in the room, these presentations are just fluff.
 
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I think this thing has a looong way to go. The committee is going to present the presidents with any school that meets the criteria. It will probably be all of the assumed schools including UConn, UC, Houston, BYU, CSU, UCF/USF. Maybe even a few of the "really?" schools like SMU and Rice. They'll then argue over those schools until they get a consensus so they can vote unanimously. If Texas isn't in the room, these presentations are just fluff.
Why do people constantly reference "UCF/USF," as if they are the same program, joined at the hip, or somehow a package deal? They have only been in the same conference since 2013.
 
Why do people constantly reference "UCF/USF," as if they are the same program, jointed at the hip, or somehow a package deal? They have only been in the same conference since 2013.
I think the idea is if they want a chance of taking any meaningful share of the Florida football market, they can't do it with either UCF or USF. Would need both.

Personally I welcome that line of thinking, because UCF could be a threat, but if they're saddled with USF as a perceived "package deal" they become much less attractive.
 
Why do people constantly reference "UCF/USF," as if they are the same program, joined at the hip, or somehow a package deal? They have only been in the same conference since 2013.
I do it because they may as well use the same presentation and just tweak the demographic numbers of the school and Orlando / Tampa. I don't think they are joined at the him or are a package. It's pretty hard to distinguish their strengths and weaknesses (although I'm sure their students/alums would disagree with my analysis).
 
Interesting. So the function of this presentation is to cull those schools that don't meet a baseline? That's good.

Somehow, I can't help but think that the baseline will be moved such that we are on the wrong side of it.
 
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i guess? but...

HOW ARE WE ONLY AT THIS POINT?
In my opinion, it's either because the B12 is looking for ESPN and Fox to pay them off not to expand or because they are an incredibly disfunctional conference. Perhaps both.
 
The Turner article has made its way to the Big 12 forums and doesn't exactly make folks excited for you all. If you actually read the article, it's not that bad - his summary is he doesn't think the Big 12 will take anybody, not that UConn isn't as or more qualified that anybody else. But all people are going to see is "Even the former UConn AD doesn't believe his old school can make the grade!!!" Believe me, that's all anybody in Big 12 land will see.

While Big 12 presidents aren't going to be swayed by random article...it's kind of odd that your local paper would put out essentially a negatively titled piece against the best interests of the university at this time that, in this environment, would be sure to get picked up and re-tweeted and posted to death right as UConn is about to make their final push.


Altavilla is a rank embarrassment to the news reporter corp. He uses a source, who claims to like UConn, but trashes it with 26 year old information.
It's like asking Dom Perno about UConn BB.

Did Altavilla ask Turner if he had been to UConn lately?

Has Turner seen the growth and improvement that has occurred? When was the last time Turner was on campus?

Re: travel - did Altavilla ask Turner if the I-291 connector made travel to UConn from our airport easier? Turner left UConn before I-291 was even opened.

Did Altavilla check on Turner's job experience and reviews since he left UConn and find out that he was reviled at NC State? Turner has had a checkered and controversial past with his job history in general.

Nobody seems to have thought much of him as an AD, so now he's a consultant. We all know what that means - no one wants to hire you full time.

I love people who say they're rooting for you and then you at every turn.

(Oh and BTW - who was Turner close to? Mark Emmert, who hired him at Washington.)
 
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Don't know if this is key enough to be in the Top Shelf tweets but here.
 
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Probably not a deciding factor, but evidence that there's potential unrest that would occur if BYU is selected. Could possibly lead to not enough votes. Don't know exactly how to interpret that impacting our chances, but my gut says it wouldn't be good as it makes the four-team expansion less likely, and that's undoubtedly our best shot at getting in.
 
Probably not a deciding factor, but evidence that there's potential unrest that would occur if BYU is selected. Could possibly lead to not enough votes. Don't know exactly how to interpret that impacting our chances, but my gut says it wouldn't be good as it makes the four-team expansion less likely, and that's undoubtedly our best shot at getting in.
east baby!!! uconn, UH, cincy, and USF...
 
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Don't sleep on CSU and Air Force. If the Big 12 thought it was fine to go west to Utah - then Colorado makes even more sense. It's contiguous, there's a lot of Big 12 alumni there and it's a populous and one of the fastest growing states in the nation.

I used to be more bullish on CSU - state land grant school that is rapidly growing, 30,000+ enrollment, excellent R&D metrics for the presidents and beautiful new stadium on the way. But I'm warming up to the AFA too. They support their football team, have a national fan base to draw from, are ranked 55th in the Leerfield Cup (UConn is 57...BYU is 30, those are the top 3 among candidate schools) and would add pomp and prestige and great academics out the wazoo.

If you ask me whom I'd rather the University of Kansas share a conference with - Central Florida or the United State Air Force Academy...it is a complete no-brainer.

Speaking as a Big 8/12 fan, I'd WAY rather have one of the Colorado schools than one of the Florida schools although I understand if most of you disagree.
 
Probably not a deciding factor, but evidence that there's potential unrest that would occur if BYU is selected. Could possibly lead to not enough votes. Don't know exactly how to interpret that impacting our chances, but my gut says it wouldn't be good as it makes the four-team expansion less likely, and that's undoubtedly our best shot at getting in.
I'd have to disagree with the "we need BYU for 4" theory. By most reports it seems that 2 is more likely than 4. I think eliminating BYU and having the discussion between UH/UC/UConn is a more favorable scenario. In that sense, we have to just not finish last. I guess UCF has a shot but I'm not on that bandwagon.
 
I'd have to disagree with the "we need BYU for 4" theory. By most reports it seems that 2 is more likely than 4. I think eliminating BYU and having the discussion between UH/UC/UConn is a more favorable scenario. In that sense, we have to just not finish last. I guess UCF has a shot but I'm not on that bandwagon.
If the choices are going two or going zero, then yes of course BYU being out helps. But BYU being in still means that four is on the table and a plausible compromise between the faction who would want UH included and the faction who would want BYU included.
 
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