Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[CL82]

I guess he is. I still don't get why Houston would let UT set up shop in Houston, if Houston wants to claim the market. UT's power and influence in the state of Texas is obviously enormous. According to a former head coach who now works at Kansas State, admission into the Big 12 would turn Houston into a football power.

Former Houston coach Dana Dimel thinks Cougars would be bad for Big 12

I suspect the analysis is that the infusion of Big 12 money and elevation to P5 status justifies the considerable risk of having UT open a campus there.

 

[SubbaBub]

Because one is the State flagship university, the other one is Houston, and Texas is a big enough area that the state would want to provide access to a better education to the people in America's 4th largest city.

The real reason is why would UT let UH into the XII, when there will be a UT-H regardless. UH doesn't have that kind of clout.

 

[noeynox]

Because one is the State flagship university, the other one is Houston, and Texas is a big enough area that the state would want to provide access to a better education to the people in America's 4th largest city.

The real reason is why would UT let UH into the XII, when there will be a UT-H regardless. UH doesn't have that kind of clout.

How do you know this? They certainly have had plenty of Texas politicians fight this battle for them. There are probably plenty of UH alumni politicians who can drag this out a long time.

 

[huskymedic]

Trotter: Breaking the myth that expansion would water down the Big 12

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Trotter: Breaking the myth that expansion would water down the Big 12

What a load of . Connecticut doesn't draw fans to their stadium.

Look at average attendance. Higher than everyone the past 10 seasons besides BYU.

So ignorant and just fuels the ESPN anti UConn agenda.

 

[sportsart]

What a load of . Connecticut doesn't draw fans to their stadium.

Look at average attendance. Higher than everyone the past 10 seasons besides BYU.

So ignorant and just fuels the ESPN anti UConn agenda.

@Dooley Go to work.

 

[Santini35]

@Dooley Go to work.

I'm trying to give Dooley a break and going after Trotter for him, the numbers are stunning. Over the period that NCAA figures are easily accessed, 2005-2015

UConn's lowest attendance(2014) was 12.4K higher than Houston's lowest (2005) and 7.3k greater than Memphis's lowest (2011)

Average Total Attendance over that span
UConn - 35,537
Cinci - 30,288
Memphis - 29,769
Houston - 25,630

USF and UCF do both average more than UConn in that span.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

I'm trying to give Dooley a break and going after Trotter for him, the numbers are stunning. Over the period that NCAA figures are easily accessed, 2005-2015

UConn's lowest attendance(2014) was 12.4K higher than Houston's lowest (2005) and 7.3k greater than Memphis's lowest (2011)

Average Total Attendance over that span
UConn - 35,537
Cinci - 30,288
Memphis - 29,769
Houston - 25,630

USF and UCF do both average more than UConn in that span.

Great work. Would have taken that hack two minutes to look that up, and it's actually his job.

 

[CL82]

I'm trying to give Dooley a break and going after Trotter for him, the numbers are stunning. Over the period that NCAA figures are easily accessed, 2005-2015

UConn's lowest attendance(2014) was 12.4K higher than Houston's lowest (2005) and 7.3k greater than Memphis's lowest (2011)

Average Total Attendance over that span
UConn - 35,537
Cinci - 30,288
Memphis - 29,769
Houston - 25,630

USF and UCF do both average more than UConn in that span.

And that attendance includes an "unnatural" disaster:

Edit - Fixed it for you @HuskyHawk

 

[Santini35]

Great work. Would have taken that hack two minutes to look that up, and it's actually his job.

The more and more I listen to these "key-tweeters" the more I recognize that they know very little more than the "non-key tweeters" Like Dennis Dodd's "vision" of Texas hating that they would have to play in front of 27K in November, despite 27K being the LOWEST we've hit in 10 years

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

I'm trying to give Dooley a break and going after Trotter for him, the numbers are stunning. Over the period that NCAA figures are easily accessed, 2005-2015

UConn's lowest attendance(2014) was 12.4K higher than Houston's lowest (2005) and 7.3k greater than Memphis's lowest (2011)

Average Total Attendance over that span
UConn - 35,537
Cinci - 30,288
Memphis - 29,769
Houston - 25,630

USF and UCF do both average more than UConn in that span.

USF has the most bogus attendance numbers of all time.

 

[HuskyHawk]

And that attendance includes a natural disaster:

There is nothing "natural" about that disaster.

 

[noeynox]

The more and more I listen to these "key-tweeters" the more I recognize that they know very little more than the "non-key tweeters" Like Dennis Dodd's "vision" of Texas hating that they would have to play in front of 27K in November, despite 27K being the LOWEST we've hit in 10 years

You really have to credit the big 12 presidents for not leaking anything. They have been extremely tight lipped after saying they were going to expand.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Five industry sources weigh in on top candidates to join Big 12; ESPN and Fox not thrilled with expansion talks | SportsDay

"Beyond BYU, a host of schools are clustered, led by UConn, Memphis, Central Florida and Colorado State, in an evolving order."

So if BYU is out, and they expand by 4, it would be Houston, Cincinnati, UConn and Memphis (or less likely, UCF). Not bad but not everyone in the Big 12 will be thrilled with the "city" school additions. At that point, let the AAC replenish itself with 4 new adds, and let them duke it out for the next 2+ spots.

Houston gets screwed, really, by letting UT set up shop in their town. UT-Houston? Really? They could have held out for the ACC. Just my opinion. Only issue would be costs to maintain an athletic department and Houston doesn't have a super donor other than Paul Wall, who donates grills to the coaching staff.

did you really just post a link to an article from last week that is probably posted at least 50 times in other threads, not to mention the impetus of at least 2 additional threads?

sadly, it feels a hell of a lot longer than a week since that article came out.

 

[SubbaBub]

How do you know this? They certainly have had plenty of Texas politicians fight this battle for them. There are probably plenty of UH alumni politicians who can drag this out a long time.

Because the governor has different motivations. Say he is interested in fighting for the interests of the people who inhabit the 4th largest city in America. Texas would get some blowback if they opposed UH, but that would pass. UT clout > UH clout. UT wiuld eventually find some other way to appease the Houston caucus.

 

[huskymedic]

And that attendance includes an "unnatural" disaster:

Edit - Fixed it for you @HuskyHawk

Act of God not covered by CR insurance.

 

[MattMang23]

Great work. Would have taken that hack two minutes to look that up, and it's actually his job.

But it is much easier to pre-determine your conclusion and then do (or not do, as it were) the research to reach said conclusion, than to do the research and then draw a conclusion from it.

 

[prankster]

But it is much easier to pre-determine your conclusion and then do (or not do, as it were) the research to reach said conclusion, than to do the research and then draw a conclusion from it.

Of course it is. Didn't you ever do a research paper in college!

 

[huskymedic]

Media survey: Coogs, 'Cats to Big 12

Big 12 Expansion Survey
(20 media members polled, schools listed with number of votes received)
Cincinnati: 16
Houston: 16
BYU: 9
UCF: 4
USF: 3
Memphis: 3
UConn: 2
Tulane: 1

 

[CardiffGiant]

Media survey: Coogs, 'Cats to Big 12

Big 12 Expansion Survey
(20 media members polled, schools listed with number of votes received)
Cincinnati: 16
Houston: 16
BYU: 9
UCF: 4
USF: 3
Memphis: 3
UConn: 2
Tulane: 1

Further confirmation of the immense stupidity of the media regarding conference realignment. If nothing else, this process has done nothing but show how little the media investigate or care to know what issues matter, or should matter in conf realignment. How many times have guys like @Dooley or others have to send information like attendance, academic info, TV market info regarding NYC. You name it. I am convinced that many local writers are content to put their knee-jerk uninformed opinions based upon no facts to get clicks or to feather the nest of their local team. It is clear that as Colonel Klink once said, They know NUTING!

 

[auror]

Seems like 13/20 media members picked only 2 schools. If I were only picking 2, I would not pick UConn as a favorite, either.

 

[CallMeBruce]

Seems like 13/20 media members picked only 2 schools. If I were only picking 2, I would not pick UConn as a favorite, either.

It doesn't bode well that we got the 7th-most votes, certainly.

 

[VAHuskyFan]

Media survey: Coogs, 'Cats to Big 12

Big 12 Expansion Survey
(20 media members polled, schools listed with number of votes received)
Cincinnati: 16
Houston: 16
BYU: 9
UCF: 4
USF: 3
Memphis: 3
UConn: 2
Tulane: 1

Three things to keep in mind:

(1) These are beat writers and journalists being surveyed, not the media executives whose job it is to figure out where there is actual value.

(2) They were asked who they thought would get in, not who they thought should get in.

(3) There is nothing scientific or statistically relevant about how the survey was conducted.

Basically, it's an echo chamber of conventional wisdom from a few random folks who have no idea what is going on.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

It doesn't bode well that we got the 7th-most votes, certainly.

If Tulane got a vote then you know it's trash.

 

[Husky25]

Joey Knight's editor required a by-line to justify the alms he receives from The Tampa Bay Times. He probably just did an Internet search of expansion articles published in Big 12 cities, came up with a couple writers per and documented regurgitated their latest articles. What is humorous is that he could have just come to the Boneyard, where the links are already compiled, and saved himself 24 1/2 minutes. It couldn't have taken him much longer than that to write that space-filler.