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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

A win over OK today would really fire up any typically lukewarm UH fans. Would probably improve attendance at their next home game.
 
Greg Abbott@GregAbbott_TX 24 mins ago
Congratulations Houston Cougars on the awesome win. #HTownTakeover@UHouston
 
Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 1h1 hour ago
Houston makes it Big 12 case with an upset of No. 3 Oklahoma. The Cougars timing could not have been better.
With Houston upsetting Sooners, Big 12 expansion question becomes 'How can you not add Cougars?' | SportsDay

Gary Fuller ‏@fullergary · 1h1 hour ago
@ChuckCarltonDMN
So you think OU votes for them now?

Chuck Carlton‏@ChuckCarltonDMN
@fullergary
That's a great question. I don't have a great answer.

Bill Bryan ‏@billbryan1953 · 41m41 minutes ago
@ChuckCarltonDMN
so is membership based solely on a football score or the complete academic/athletic package a school offers?

Chuck Carlton‏@ChuckCarltonDMN
@billbryan1953
Timing is everything. And if you're in a good position (like Houston) and do this, it surely helps.

Bill Bryan ‏@billbryan1953 · 34m34 minutes ago
@ChuckCarltonDMN
I might have agreed if the B12 wasn't dragging their feet. Isn't that how/why TCU is now a member? Other factors matter.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 33m33 minutes ago
@billbryan1953
True. But Houston was probably one of the top three before today. If nothing else, this doesn't hurt the cause.
 
I could see why beating the b12 teams could hurt your chances. If these Texas schools elevate Houston, it's likely at there expense.
 
Renu Khator ‏@UHpres · 8h8 hours ago
Go Coogs...with @GovAbbott and @TilmanJFertitta
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auggie22 said:
Seems like she is slipping her hand in the gov's pants.
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A president's got to do what a president's got to do.
 
noeynox said:
Anyone notice how hard this C. Austin Cox continues to pimp Memphis? Must be a Memphis fan.

C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox 1h1 hour ago
Memphis rolled through Week 1 with a 35-17 win over SEMO. Almost too much too like about the Tigers. They make #Big12Expansion sense.
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Yup - He keeps positioning it like the ESPN Memphis out story (and independently confirmed by the AP) isn't factual. Keeps driving them clicks.
 
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noeynox said:
Anyone notice how hard this C. Austin Cox continues to pimp Memphis? Must be a Memphis fan.

C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox 1h1 hour ago
Memphis rolled through Week 1 with a 35-17 win over SEMO. Almost too much too like about the Tigers. They make #Big12Expansion sense.

10 retweets22 likes
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Well I don't know why the Big 12 wouldn't jump on them quickly, now that they've beaten Southeast Missouri St by 18. Might want to grab Tulsa while they're at it after their 45-10 win over San Jose St and East Carolina for their 52-7 shellacking of Western Carolina too. That makes #noexpansionsenseoranysenseatall sense.

What a moron, I think all of his tweets are officially non-key from now on.
 
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BoomerHusky said:
Here is the full nda.

http://media.jrn.com/documents/big12nda.pdf

A lawyer on the byu board posted that releasing the NDA would be a violation of the agreement especially Schedule A where they disclose who is on a need to know basis.

Also said it shows a complete lack of professionalism and they should probably terminate negotiations if they haven't already.
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On first reading, I was going to post that simply disclosing a NDA doesn't in itself constitution a violation of the agreement unless it's specifically covered in the terms. Sure enough, though, one doesn't even need to be an attorney to see that in Graph 1., the Agreement, including its terms and existence , is specifically covered as "Conference Confidential Information" meaning those inviduals on Schedule A and the university attorneys are the only ones that would be authorized to see the agreement. Basically if the NDA includes the agreement as being confidential, the terms can't be disclosed. If it's not listed, it could be. In this case, upon inspection, he's right that it's definitely listed. I don't know if that BYU guy you mentioned is or isn't an attorney, but the agreement definitely spells out the NDA as being confidential.
 
noeynox said:
Anyone notice how hard this C. Austin Cox continues to pimp Memphis? Must be a Memphis fan.

C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox 1h1 hour ago
Memphis rolled through Week 1 with a 35-17 win over SEMO. Almost too much too like about the Tigers. They make #Big12Expansion sense.

10 retweets22 likes
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The guy went from a virtual unknown to thousands of Twitter mentions and multiple appearances on sports radio by pimping Memphis. He's going to ride this out as the desperate Memphis fanbase will let him.
 
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junglehusky said:
Also mentioned in Platinum Top Shelf, the media tweeters are taking notice.

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I'm more surprised than anything else. Granted, Texas is a big market. But I thought they loved football down there.

You're telling me they do a 11 rating for the big bowl games in Houston?

Houston, it seems, behaves more like a pro football town than practically anywhere down south.

This is a big market though, so any decent number like that is worth $$$.

Which I guess is the point.

But for some reason I would have thought more would have tuned in.
 
Did OU, OSU, KU, KSU, ISU and WV just stop caring about adding a 5th school from Texas?
Is the Houston market all of a sudden producing double it's number of households?
Is UH+1 revenue neutral to the corporations footing the bill for this?

UH as one of two adds in a 12 team league is no more likely today than it was a month ago. Please stop listening to media whores.
 
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SubbaBub said:
Did OU, OSU, KU, KSU, ISU and WV just stop caring about adding a 5th school from Texas?
Is the Houston market all of a sudden producing double it's number of households?
Is UH+1 revenue neutral to the corporations footing the bill for this?

UH as one of two adds in a 12 team league is no more likely today than it was a month ago. Please stop listening to media whores.
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This. The addition of another Texas school to go to 12, thereby INCREASING the Texas influence in this already Texas-centric conference is completely untenable for the non-Texas schools. I have no doubt they will block any such notion. The only way it flies is if we go to 14 or UT and OU sign a new GOR. The latter will not happen with th we additions IMO.
 
BKarchitect said:
This. The addition of another Texas school to go to 12, thereby INCREASING the Texas influence in this already Texas-centric conference is completely untenable for the non-Texas schools. I have no doubt they will block any such notion. The only way it flies is if we go to 14 or UT and OU sign a new GOR. The latter will not happen with th we additions IMO.
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The reason there are so many Texas schools is because Texas has all the power. No one wants Texas to leave. And that gives them leverage.
 
upstater said:
The reason there are so many Texas schools is because Texas has all the power. No one wants Texas to leave. And that gives them leverage.
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Bingo, and if Texas really wants to hook everyone in, they offer to extend the GOR for a little bit, but leave themselves a legal backdoor in 2025. UH/BYU is a very, very, very real possibility.

Which wouldn't be a completely disastrous result for us. If we could pitch to UC a move where we both bring BB and Olympic sports to the Big East and move football to somewhere like the Mountain West, that could prove to be a moderately doable temporary home for our programs until another door opens down the road. It would certainly bolster Big East basketball, and we'd make two solid additions to another football conference, and we'd get out of the dumpster fire AAC.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Bingo, and if Texas really wants to hook everyone in, they offer to extend the GOR for a little bit, but leave themselves a legal backdoor in 2025. UH/BYU is a very, very, very real possibility.

Which wouldn't be a completely disastrous result for us. If we could pitch to UC a move where we both bring BB and Olympic sports to the Big East and move football to somewhere like the Mountain West, that could prove to be a moderately doable temporary home for our programs until another door opens down the road. It would certainly bolster Big East basketball, and we'd make two solid additions to another football conference, and we'd get out of the dumpster fire AAC.
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Out of curiosity, how will the GOR be extended? They have no commitment from a network, they have no additioanl money, and UH/BYU wouldn't support either. Do you really believe OU would sign an extension, allow only Texas a legal backdoor, all while they 40+million waiting for them elsewhere. This makes absolutely no sense.
 
upstater said:
The reason there are so many Texas schools is because Texas has all the power. No one wants Texas to leave. And that gives them leverage.
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Had the power. Going forward, OU has a voice in this as well. The LHN has alienated Texas and has really put them in no man's land regionally and nationally.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Bingo, and if Texas really wants to hook everyone in, they offer to extend the GOR for a little bit, but leave themselves a legal backdoor in 2025. UH/BYU is a very, very, very real possibility.
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Nobody in this conference is going to fall for some ill-contrived GOR extension with an out for UT after 2024 like they already will have. It'll be an ironclad 20-year extension like the ACC with new media deals or there won't be an extension at all with this round of expansion. The Iowa State president and AD have made this very clear. The northern schools are not going to get pushed into something they don't want. If that means they block expansion entirely, then that's that. Houston as one of two is not workable.

Nobody in this conference believes UT wants to be in the same conference with the likes of Houston long-term if all we are getting are some "promises" that it will make Austin happy. UT wants to appease Texas legislators and it'll grease the skids when they flee in 2024 to already have "elevated" Houston - they can say "look, we got Houston promoted, now we are going to leave but you still have 4 Texas schools in the Big 12 so everybody (in Texas) wins!".
 
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