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Temple has a small and pigeon-holed fanbase. They have a good but not spectacular basketball program and weak at best support in football. While they've improved in football in the last 10 years, that improvement was from a position as one of the four or five worst FBS programs in the country. It's a large public city school with a relatively large alumni base, but that hasn't parlayed into large football crowds or even consistently enormous basketball crowds. The main problem is there are so many colleges in Philly with athletic programs that it splits the city's attention. Especially with Villanova rising to such prominence in basketball of late, it's hard for Temple to corner any kind of stranglehold on the attention of the city's media or casual fan. That plus Philly being heavily dominated by pro sports makes them waaaaay down on the totem pole in their own city, much less their own state - which is already dominated by PSU.So, UConn fans - tell me about Temple as a conference mate and as a potential Big 12 invitee should Fox encourage the Big 12 to make a strong play at the Northeast.
Here's what I know as a KU fan. Incredibly tough hoops team to play especially at their place. Football had a good year but usually pretty and minus Notre Dame and Penn State fans packing out the stadium, they don't draw worth a crap. Solid-sized school with good enrollment numbers and decent enough academics. Used to be a P5 Big East member but got kicked out for being terrible at football.
Is there any logic in the Big 12 looking at both UConn and Temple as a duo? Or can Temple not hack it?
Sounds more like a radio guy who misread his notes.Saw this on Land Thieves:
According to XM sports updates, BYU is out.
Originally Posted by nebraskafaninwi View Post
Link please. If BYU is out then that is big news.
I don't know how to link a radio update. Go to XM online and rewind to 11:00 CST. They obviously could be wrong. Mentioned "Big XIi reduced list to 12. ESPN reports among those not making cut...Boise St and BYU".
They moved up to 8th?!!?!?!?
Technically through their record. Here's the standings with every FBS Texas Program in 2015:
1) Houston 13-1
2) TCU 11-2
3) Baylor 10-3
4) Texas A&M 8-5
5) Texas Tech 7-6
6) Texas 5-7
7) UTEP 5-7
8) Rice 5-7
9) Texas State 3-9
10) SMU 2-10
11) North Texas 1-11
UTSA?
Whoops, good catch. They went 3-9. Updated list below:
1) Houston 13-1
2) TCU 11-2
3) Baylor 10-3
4) Texas A&M 8-5
5) Texas Tech 7-6
6) Texas 5-7
7) UTEP 5-7
8) Rice 5-7
9) UTSA 3-9
10) Texas State 3-9
11) SMU 2-10
12) North Texas 1-11
You should check out Drunk History too.I learned all about the history of LDS from a South Park episode. Except for them working in "Dumb... dumb... dumb... dumb" after almost every fact it seemed pretty accurate. Between that and "Hamilton" I find that I remember history better when it is delivered as a cartoon or song.
Whoops, good catch. They went 3-9. Updated list below:
1) Houston 13-1
2) TCU 11-2
3) Baylor 10-3
4) Texas A&M 8-5
5) Texas Tech 7-6
6) Texas 5-7
7) UTEP 5-7
8) Rice 5-7
9) UTSA 3-9
10) Texas State 3-9
11) SMU 2-10
12) North Texas 1-11

OR...
1) Texas 886-353-33 .710
2) Texas A&M 717-466-44 .602
3) Texas Tech 556-429-32 .560
4) Houston 437-352-15 .541
5) TCU 627-531-57 .540
6) Texas State 505-431-57 .539
7) Baylor 581-551-44 .513
8) North Texas 493-489-33 .502
9) SMU 477-527-54 .476
10) UTSA 26-32 .448
11) Rice 466-586-32 .445
12) UTEP 386-565-30 .409
'Thought you guys deplored judgments drawn on current, yet incomplete data...![]()
So, UConn fans - tell me about Temple as a conference mate and as a potential Big 12 invitee should Fox encourage the Big 12 to make a strong play at the Northeast.
Here's what I know as a KU fan. Incredibly tough hoops team to play especially at their place. Football had a good year but usually pretty and minus Notre Dame and Penn State fans packing out the stadium, they don't draw worth a crap. Solid-sized school with good enrollment numbers and decent enough academics. Used to be a P5 Big East member but got kicked out for being terrible at football.
Is there any logic in the Big 12 looking at both UConn and Temple as a duo? Or can Temple not hack it?
I'd love to see UConn/Cincy/Temple/BYU as the four. Travel is more manageable, and basketball in that league would be amazing.
Temple has a small and pigeon-holed fanbase. They have a good but not spectacular basketball program and weak at best support in football. While they've improved in football in the last 10 years, that improvement was from a position as one of the four or five worst FBS programs in the country. It's a large public city school with a relatively large alumni base, but that hasn't parlayed into large football crowds or even consistently enormous basketball crowds. The main problem is there are so many colleges in Philly with athletic programs that it splits the city's attention. Especially with Villanova rising to such prominence in basketball of late, it's hard for Temple to corner any kind of stranglehold on the attention of the city's media or casual fan. That plus Philly being heavily dominated by pro sports makes them waaaaay down on the totem pole in their own city, much less their own state - which is already dominated by PSU.
They could be a contender down the road if they were to actually build the program into a consistent player on the national scene and proved that people in the city care about them, but at this point they're nowhere near being ready. Taking them would be a highly speculative move by the Big 12.
There are four, at most five, candidates for Big 12 expansion: BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, UConn and maybe one of the Florida schools, though I doubt the latter.
The Big 12 will expand with some combination of those schools, or it won’t expand at all. Temple is not coming into the Big 12. Colorado State is not coming into the Big 12. Air Force is not coming into the Big 12.
I’m generally pretty good at coming up with theories on why the Big 12 does some of the things it does. Not this time. I’m baffled. Someone tell me why the Big 12 is going through the masquerade of keeping Rice and Tulane on the list.
Is Rice putting themselves out there as an AAC add?Tramel qualifies as Premium Top Shelf... but this one is an opinion piece on the process so I'll dump it here.
Berry Tramel: Why is Rice on the Big 12 Expansion List?
And a good article too. This process is ridiculous.Tramel qualifies as Premium Top Shelf... but this one is an opinion piece on the process so I'll dump it here.
Berry Tramel: Why is Rice on the Big 12 Expansion List?
OR...
1) Texas 886-353-33 .710
2) Texas A&M 717-466-44 .602
3) Texas Tech 556-429-32 .560
4) Houston 437-352-15 .541
5) TCU 627-531-57 .540
6) Texas State 505-431-57 .539
7) Baylor 581-551-44 .513
8) North Texas 493-489-33 .502
9) SMU 477-527-54 .476
10) UTSA 26-32 .448
11) Rice 466-586-32 .445
12) UTEP 386-565-30 .409
'Thought you guys deplored judgments drawn on current, yet incomplete data...![]()
CR disease can cause blindness, dementia, alzheimers, migraine headaches, blood shooting from your eyes just to name a few.I caught it because I have CR disease, and of course have memorized the fact that there are 12 FBS schools in Texas.
what about hairy palms?CR disease can cause blindness, dementia, alzheimers, migraine headaches, blood shooting from your eyes just to name a few.
CR disease can cause blindness, dementia, alzheimers, migraine headaches, blood shooting from your eyes just to name a few.
Life of Pi is a good watch on a lot of levels. That quote is the pay off quote of the movie and doesn't apply to religion, but you likely know that. The movie does have a nice piece early on about Pi and experience with different religions. Very interesting.I thought "The Life of Pi" explained religion best: "which story do you prefer?"
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12 flag polls at OU...hmmm...
Oklahoma's new south end zone features 12 flagpoles
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USA flag OK flagBig 12 flag on each end 10 member schools in the middle.
I thought it was the Rent at first glance.View attachment 15306
12 flag polls at OU...hmmm...
Oklahoma's new south end zone features 12 flagpoles
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Posted in the premium thread but McMurphy confirmed Memphis did NOT make the final cut. Also from the same list, it seems Temple was cut as well.