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superjohn said:
What's your thinking on what happens? Everyone attached to conference Realignment always says it's about eyeballs/money and a winning tradition. I still have no clue how we can be in this position when that's the criteria. I'm pretty clueless on this stuff, please give me some reason to feel hopeful.
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I'm not saying UConn is the choice. I tend to think the B12 really doesn't care about anything but making ESPN pay after they were clearly lied to.

I am saying that drawing things out at this point serves no one, especially since the B12 wants the contract for 2017. They can do this in a week.

Remember, after Maryland left the ACC, the ball rolled really really quickly.

I give this a month before the secret vote happens.
 
Declaring BCS bowl participation as a factor bodes well for UConn, Cincy and UCF.

I still say UConn, Cincy, UCF and USF make sense to balance the conference between Eastern and Central Time Zones. Plus it gives B12 schools not named Texas or Oklahoma.a better access to Florida for recruiting.
 
Thamel: BYU, Cincinnati, and UConn are leaders for Big 12 expansion

Big 12 expansion looks to be a near certainty

“They’re going to open it up like an auction,” one Big 12 source said. “They don’t want it to be like they’re out there soliciting schools.”

Hmmm... So what should we offer? Free Dairy Bar ice cream for all Big 12 teams on campus during their trips and playing Texas in Yankee Stadium could be a nice starting olive branch.

Also important-

They showed how four new teams combined with the addition of a conference championship game could add nearly one billion additional dollars before the league’s deal with ESPN and Fox expires in 2025.

Four teams looks like the way to go.
 
ASweet3781 said:
They showed how four new teams combined with the addition of a conference championship game could add nearly one billion additional dollars before the league’s deal with ESPN and Fox expires in 2025.

Four teams looks like the way to go.
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Dodd's story from last month:

Big 12 could earn an additional $1 billion through expansion

DALLAS -- Big 12 administrators will be presented with information this week at the league's spring meetings that expansion could earn the conference at least an additional $1 billion over the length of its remaining TV rights contract, CBS Sports has learned.

If the league expands by four teams, provisions in its contracts with ESPN and Fox provide money for that benchmark. If the expansion is by two teams, the increase would be $500 million.

Those rightsholders are contractually bound to provide "pro rata" for any new Big 12 members. That is, any new members would be paid an equal share of the current Big 12 members -- approximately $23 million per year.

While on its face that doesn't necessarily help the 10 current members of the Big 12, opening the existing contract would allow for a negotiation beyond that $1 billion figure.

Most importantly, it would satisfy one of the conference's key concerns: Falling behind the other Power Five conferences in revenue.

Big 12 could earn an additional $1 billion through expansion
 
jostar1 said:
Dodd's story from last month:

Big 12 could earn an additional $1 billion through expansion

DALLAS -- Big 12 administrators will be presented with information this week at the league's spring meetings that expansion could earn the conference at least an additional $1 billion over the length of its remaining TV rights contract, CBS Sports has learned.

If the league expands by four teams, provisions in its contracts with ESPN and Fox provide money for that benchmark. If the expansion is by two teams, the increase would be $500 million.

Those rightsholders are contractually bound to provide "pro rata" for any new Big 12 members. That is, any new members would be paid an equal share of the current Big 12 members -- approximately $23 million per year.

While on its face that doesn't necessarily help the 10 current members of the Big 12, opening the existing contract would allow for a negotiation beyond that $1 billion figure.

Most importantly, it would satisfy one of the conference's key concerns: Falling behind the other Power Five conferences in revenue.

Big 12 could earn an additional $1 billion through expansion
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I read this article as saying that ESPN and Fox will cover the cost of the new teams, not that they will give the Big 12 $23 million a team and the Big 12 can figure out how much it wants to pay the new teams.
 
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Brian Davis ‏@BDavisAAS · 9m9 minutes ago
After sleeping on it, my four new Big 12 teams would be Cincinnati, Houston, UConn and BYU. Have East/West divisions in 2017.

Brian Davis
@BDavisAAS

Covers the Texas Longhorns for the Austin American-Statesman.
 


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This feels very Karmic to me. Yesterday, in a different vote, my employer all but certainly became a company near Austin TX. Now UConn could be in the Big 12. It just feels like too much for coincidence.
 
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MASSconn said:
Doug Gottlieb

✔@GottliebShow
Big 12 will add Cinci, has to make travel partner for WVU... I think UConn is great,but crazy travel for Olympic sports

8:35 AM - 20 Jul 2016
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I assume very few olympic sports in the B12 are bus rides now. All of them are plane trips to WV and same would hold for Cincy and UConn. Even the ACC would be mostly plane rides for our olympic sports. It's a red herring for people to throw out there without thinking.
 
I think the selection process for better or worse is farther down the road than just starting. You would not get that appearance from their media releases, but i do not think they are just starting to look at this.
 
How do you take UConn Football but not Hoops? It's total insanity and does nothing for the content that ALL our teams offer down the road towards the possibility of a network. That said, I suppose some selective scheduling in the other sports might be an option to extend our profile in the league. I think the admin would at least listen to it but would try to avoid that arrangement.
 
Jimdish255 said:
How do you take UConn Football but not Hoops? It's total insanity and does nothing for the content that ALL our teams offer down the road towards the possibility of a network. That said, I suppose some selective scheduling in the other sports might be an option to extend our profile in the league. I think the admin would at least listen to it but would try to avoid that arrangement.
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I assume a BE contact of Katz mentioned this now that the possibility of UConn finally getting out exists. The last thing the B12 would consider is UConn football only, the opposite may be true.
 
Jimdish255 said:
How do you take UConn Football but not Hoops? It's total insanity and does nothing for the content that ALL our teams offer down the road towards the possibility of a network. That said, I suppose some selective scheduling in the other sports might be an option to extend our profile in the league. I think the admin would at least listen to it but would try to avoid that arrangement.
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I think because you get the media market in NYC/CT, but you don't incur all the travel headaches for Olympic sports. I agree it seems insane, but that's how I'd rationalize it.
 
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JMick said:
Hopefully we are reminding them that UConn had crap athletics before the 90s and have excelled at everything since, regardless of the recent lagging of football. We went to the Fiesta bowl only a few years into have an FBS squad, so it is evident the potential is there. Now, whether or not the Big 12 recognizes this is a different story.

I like how much I'm hearing Academics as well. That puts us in a great position.
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Mmm, maybe not the way I'd make that argument.
 
Irish Loop said:
I think because you get the media market in NYC/CT, but you don't incur all the travel headaches for Olympic sports. I agree it seems insane, but that's how I'd rationalize it.
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Not arguing with you, but you don't get the media market in NYC without hoops. Which is why it's insane. CR hasn't always been completely logical, but this idea floating out there doesn't make any sense for anyone, including UConn. Why wouldn't we want to play Kansas, OU, Texas, and Iowa St as often as possible in hoops? I don't miss Nova and Gtown so much I'd pass on trips to see us play Kansas.
 
Excalibur said:
Now comes the time to really #BegHarder. Anything has to be on the table. Offer to take a 1/2 share for 10 years.

Here I was thinking that I could disconnect while I'm on vacation next week. Not so much anymore . . .
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#BegSmarter
 
Kirk Bohls@kbohls 21 mins ago
Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby tells me "the idea of (new teams) playing in the fall in 2017 is probably not realistic."

Kirk Bohls@kbohls 20 mins ago
Bowlsby says "most institutions would want to give (at least) a year's notice" before leaving their conferences.

Kirk Bohls@kbohls19 mins ago
Asked how many potential expansion schools he's heard from since Big 12 announcement of exploration, Bowlsby said, "Several."
 
Irish Loop said:
I think because you get the media market in NYC/CT, but you don't incur all the travel headaches for Olympic sports. I agree it seems insane, but that's how I'd rationalize it.
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I suspect some sports may be in the Big East
If by a miracle we go to the Big 12 they don't typically support all the same sports as us
Could there have been contact between us an them about parking some sports in that conference. I don't think the Big 12 supports men Soccer or women's Field Hockey. If we go ,a fact which I am still skeptical we need a home for some sports
I suspect we will probably will be forced to leave the AAC . Katz may have got it half right. The ACC or B1G is not such a problem
 
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AZHuskiePop said:
I suspect some sports may be in the Big East
If by a miracle we go to the Big 12 they don't typically support all the same sports as us
Could there have been contact between us an them about parking some sports in that conference. I don't think the Big 12 supports men Soccer or women's Field Hockey. If we go ,a fact which I am still skeptical we need a home for some sports
I suspect we will probably will be forced to leave the AAC . Katz may have got it half right. The ACC or B1G is not such a problem
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Why is that a problem? I thought Field Hockey was already in the Big East. They'd take our soccer, or depending on who gets added, the Big XII might sponsor it.
 
I don't know why the B12 would pass on adding our hoops. Other than baseball, the B12 really doesn't sponsor many Olympic sports that we play. I can see UConn moving or keeping baseball, soccer, field hockey, track, etc to the Big East. Hockey stays in Hockey East. Football and hoops go to the B12. But if there's one thing I don't see happening at all is the B12 adding UConn as a football only member. I can see that for Houston, BYU, Memphis, UCF/USF, CSU. But not UConn and not Cincinnati.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Why is that a problem? I thought Field Hockey was already in the Big East. They'd take our soccer, or depending on who gets added, the Big XII might sponsor it.
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I never said there was a problem . I only said contact between UConn AD 's office and the NBE could be regarding parking additional Olympic sports there .
thats actually not a problem but a good sign if true
 
Dooley said:
I don't know why the B12 would pass on adding our hoops. Other than baseball, the B12 really doesn't sponsor many Olympic sports that we play. I can see UConn moving or keeping baseball, soccer, field hockey, track, etc to the Big East. Hockey stays in Hockey East. Football and hoops go to the B12. But if there's one thing I don't see happening at all is the B12 adding UConn as a football only member. I can see that for Houston, BYU, Memphis, UCF/USF, CSU. But not UConn and not Cincinnati.
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With Big 12 $$ -- my sense is baseball goes Big 12.
 
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