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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

Pudge said:
How do you think lobbying is done in the academic world?

This is a serious question. I find enormous humor in this idea that Warde Manuel or Susan Herbst lost OUR ACC bid because they did not make a few phone calls in crucial weeks. Or went to Bermuda to watch our BB team.

This is about relationships. This is about nurturing OUR University and raising it's academic stature. No - as Berry Tramel of the Oklahoman states - our football prowess is down. But, I believe the B1G (and the Pac12 ... and divergently the SEC) are playing a far different game than the ACC or B12. This is about a reach of one conference in business relationships far into Academics and into the Brand/Sports Revenue. I believe the key outliers of the ACC and the B12 are targets ... particularly as the dollars disparity has gone from $22m to $50m. Change is coming.

Overtures. We are regularly connecting with presidents at B1G schools. We know Rutgers did for a half decade per FOIL disclosures.
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A reasonable assumption Pudge. But an assumption and sourced information are two different things.

Oh and regarding Ville's last minute very public and very loud campaign, the surest way to lose the deal is to assume it's done before it closes. I guess their campaigning could have been theater and the decision to take Louisville had already been made before the Virgin islands tournament, but why would they engage in all that public play acting if their spot had already been locked down?
 
CL82 said:
A reasonable assumption Pudge. But an assumption and sourced information are two different things.

Oh and regarding Ville's last minute very public and very loud campaign, the surest way to lose the deal is to assume it's done before it closes. I guess their campaigning could have been theater and the decision to take Louisville had already been made before the Virgin islands tournament, but why would they engage in all that public play acting if their spot had already been locked down?
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To kick us in the teeth publically for sh&ts and giggles? Always remember Conference Realignment Rule #1.
 
Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno · 6h6 hours ago
I awoke from a dream with the sound of rain pelting the roof. I was dreaming about Noah's Ark. Two Bearcats were getting on the Ark.

Santa J. Ono
@PrezOno
28th President of the University of Cincinnati.
 
jostar1 said:
Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno · 6h6 hours ago
I awoke from a dream with the sound of rain pelting the roof. I was dreaming about Noah's Ark. Two Bearcats were getting on the Ark.

Santa J. Ono
@PrezOno
28th President of the University of Cincinnati.
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My God he's corny, but I'm sure he keeps their fans hopes alive.
 
jostar1 said:
Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno · 6h6 hours ago
I awoke from a dream with the sound of rain pelting the roof. I was dreaming about Noah's Ark. Two Bearcats were getting on the Ark.

Santa J. Ono
@PrezOno
28th President of the University of Cincinnati.
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The B12 must not have the same privacy clauses as the B1G. If Cincinnati doesn't have an invite already, this is some serious public begging.
 
jostar1 said:
Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno · 6h6 hours ago
I awoke from a dream with the sound of rain pelting the roof. I was dreaming about Noah's Ark. Two Bearcats were getting on the Ark.

Santa J. Ono
@PrezOno
28th President of the University of Cincinnati.
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That guy is really odd.
 
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jostar1 said:
Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno · 6h6 hours ago
I awoke from a dream with the sound of rain pelting the roof. I was dreaming about Noah's Ark. Two Bearcats were getting on the Ark.

Santa J. Ono
@PrezOno
28th President of the University of Cincinnati.
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Wow. Ono is one ridiculous tweet away from being The Dude of Cincinnati and getting bumped to the non-key tweet thread? Even if there's something there....he's the President of a major University.
 
jostar1 said:
Santa J. Ono ‏@PrezOno · 6h6 hours ago
I awoke from a dream with the sound of rain pelting the roof. I was dreaming about Noah's Ark. Two Bearcats were getting on the Ark.

Santa J. Ono
@PrezOno
28th President of the University of Cincinnati.
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He is a straight up EDP!!!
 
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@gkketch: Next @YSportsRadio: I've changed my tune on the Big 12's future after yesterday. Time to go to invest in Florida. http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/listen/

@AnwarRichardson: Listening to @gkketch on @YSportsRadio and he says the Big 12 needs to add University of South Florida and UCF to make 12 teams. Makes sense

@gkketch is Geoff Ketchum the owner of often UT mouthpiece Orangeblood.com
 
I've thought for a while that if the B12 was serious about expanding for football and TV, they'd do a double FL addition of UCF/USF along with Cincinnati and BYU. That doesn't bode well for us, but it would be a monster football/TV addition. The Tampa and Orlando markets are both very good sized markets, it adds a heck of a lot of FL recruiting exposure, both schools have very large undergrad populations, and it brings in an already established rivalry. The basketball would be further diluted but the B12 doesn't strike me as a conference that is overly concerned with any sport not named football. Bottom line: I think USF/UCF makes far more sense for the B12 than any combo that includes Memphis, Houston, SMU.
 
Dooley said:
I've thought for a while that if the B12 was serious about expanding for football and TV, they'd do a double FL addition of UCF/USF along with Cincinnati and BYU. That doesn't bode well for us, but it would be a monster football/TV addition. The Tampa and Orlando markets are both very good sized markets, it adds a heck of a lot of FL recruiting exposure, both schools have very large undergrad populations, and it brings in an already established rivalry. The basketball would be further diluted but the B12 doesn't strike me as a conference that is overly concerned with any sport not named football. Bottom line: I think USF/UCF makes far more sense for the B12 than any combo that includes Memphis, Houston, SMU.
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I happen to agree with you. Others will dismiss the notion of adding the 4th and 5th FL football programs, but I think the powers that be are thinking about the long run. Florida's growth shows no signs of abating - there will be room for 5 programs, particularly because unlike Texas, they will be split across three conferences instead of concentrated in one. All that said, I still don't think Texas and its nutty politicians will allow 4 non Texas teams and so...nothing will happen for a long while to come.
 
Exit 4 said:
I happen to agree with you. Others will dismiss the notion of adding the 4th and 5th FL football programs, but I think the powers that be are thinking about the long run. Florida's growth shows no signs of abating - there will be room for 5 programs, particularly because unlike Texas, they will be split across three conferences instead of concentrated in one. All that said, I still don't think Texas and its nutty politicians will allow 4 non Texas teams and so...nothing will happen for a long while to come.
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Agree - what makes sense to everyone all over the country and what the B12 does/doesn't do are two very separate things entirely. If there is ever a conference that has seemingly taken a page out of the old Big East playbook on how to run your conference into the ground, the B12 seems to be up to the task.
 
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Exit 4 said:
All that said, I still don't think Texas and its nutty politicians will allow 4 non Texas teams and so...nothing will happen for a long while to come.
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Replace Cincy w/ Houston. They are doing all the right things to get noticed as well. New hires and dumping noodles into infrastructure.
 
noeynox said:
Buffalo and UMASS would be the best adds IMO if any two schools defect.
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That SHOULD get us a couple extra wins each year.





But.... you know about 'woulda' and 'shoulda'...
 
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The Funster said:
If the Big 12 wants to expand, it shouldn't be incremental, it should be radical and earth shaking.

UCF, USF
Cincy, Memphis
BYU, UConn
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Now that's thinking...therefore it won't happen!! It would be an instant hit nationally and rejuvenate the schools AND conference. As is noone outside Texas/Okie/Kansas about the "flyover conference". They need fresh blood and National eyeballs. It would IMO easily surpass the P12 as the #3 conference. Why do simple fans like us see these things but conference honcho's paid too don't see it? You can't eat tradition as much as we love it. Its like if the ACC took RU/UConn...instant lockdown in one move of the NE but it was too brilliant in its simplicity for Swoffy to see so lets play it safe with a few privates with little to no growth potential!?! That still aggravates me that they take us fans as stupid!! Well at least they"ACC" have a national network...ACCDN on Youtube !!
 
The Funster said:
If the Big 12 wants to expand, it shouldn't be incremental, it should be radical and earth shaking.

UCF, USF
Cincy, Memphis
BYU, UConn
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Sounds like a winning idea to me. Just call fox and start running the numbers. If need be, all six new schools could take a second tier payout for the remainder of the Fox contract.

Yes, it would be the least cohesive of the P5 conferences, but I think it could make up for that by having an intriguing set of markets. Obviously there will be tremendous pressure within Texas to make room for Houston. Hard to see how such an addition would really add to the tv $$ when the B12 already has Baylor, TT, TCU and UT.

As it has been said many times before. We need to announce plans to expand our stadium. Just announce the plans and release drawings. Suiters will want to see that a bigger stadium is in the works.
 
Maybe you could switch 1 of the Fla schools or Memphis for a Houston concession to UT but new life is all they can do to rejuvenate a stagnant semi isolated conference from a OBE fate. Something 's got to give before their TV deals expire for the B12 to survive in CR...or the ISU , KSU and TCU's are in big trouble.
 
noeynox said:
Buffalo and UMASS would be the best adds IMO if any two schools defect.
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Buffalo is solid, but UMass doesn't really bring anything I'd want. I'd take ODU, LA Tech, WKU, or Marshall before I'd look at UMass.
 
Fishy said:
UMass doesn't bring anything, but Buffalo does?

What, pray tell, do they bring?
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They're the state university of metropolitan Buffalo. They bring the northeast Buffalo market.
 
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