Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[uconnyankee]

Is this what Key Tweets on conference realignment has now become?
Happy to see the success but is this the right thread?

 

[Husky92]

Is this what Key Tweets on conference realignment has now become?
Happy to see the success but is this the right thread?

At least it’s a tweet…not like 99% of this thread in recent times.

 

[Waquoit]

UConn has outstanding coaches across the board. It's been a constant for the athletic department for years.

 

[ZooCougar]

Non Key

 

[huskymedic]

 

[BigTenFan]

Interesting that ACC so much higher than B12

 

[CL82]

Interesting that ACC so much higher than B12

But not as interesting as the fact that the Big 12 is lower than the now defunct PAC 12.

 

[gioff2323]

But not as interesting as the fact that the Big 12 is lower than the now defunct PAC 12.

What is FY and who got what in a year of shuffling?

 

[CL82]

What is FY and who got what in a year of shuffling?

Don't know. Those are the questions though.

 

[jostar1]

What is FY and who got what in a year of shuffling?

FY is Fiscal Year

 

[UConnJim]

Interesting that ACC so much higher than B12

You have to analyze the numbers to figure out what is going on. For the Big 12, Texas and Oklahoma received full shares and they added 4 schools, although at reduced shares. And, you have 3 schools joining the ACC at lower or zero share with a revenue boost to the ACCN. Basically, the ACC and Big 12 get about the same from the CFP and bowls and they have similar media contracts. The difference in payout is the ACCN which is still being sold as part of the cable bundle.

The two key questions to better understand the ACC vs Big 12 payouts in the coming years are:
1) What will the ACCN revenues be in the future as cord cutting continues?
2) What will the Big 12 media contract be after 2030/2031?

 

[Rufus]

Those numbers are for last school year. FY 24 would be the payouts received for July 1, 2023 - June 30, 2024 for most conferences (although the PAC 12 had an odd August 2, 2024 date for their contract).

So these figures have Texas and Oklahoma in the Big 12, the entire 12 team PAC 12 in its final year, and the B1G and SEC at 14 teams each.

 

[gioff2323]

FY is Fiscal Year

Thanks. I was asking when is the FY - calendar year or otherwise?

 

[ZooCougar]

I thought it was common knowledge that the ACC brought in more money than the Big 12?

 

[CL82]

I thought it was common knowledge that the ACC brought in more money than the Big 12?

I was surprised by the extent of the difference. But that may just be me.

 

[huskymedic]

Interesting that ACC so much higher than B12

 

[Fishy]

You have to analyze the numbers to figure out what is going on. For the Big 12, Texas and Oklahoma received full shares and they added 4 schools, although at reduced shares. And, you have 3 schools joining the ACC at lower or zero share with a revenue boost to the ACCN. Basically, the ACC and Big 12 get about the same from the CFP and bowls and they have similar media contracts. The difference in payout is the ACCN which is still being sold as part of the cable bundle.

The two key questions to better understand the ACC vs Big 12 payouts in the coming years are:
1) What will the ACCN revenues be in the future as cord cutting continues?
2) What will the Big 12 media contract be after 2030/2031?

The ACC makes more than the B12 and it is not particularly close.

The B12 had four schools basically making a half share. The per school share will be reduced when they are granted full shares.

 

[buddy]

More reason to hate ESPN and BC even more.

 

[huskymedic]

-> The AAC reported $143,891,433 in revenue for the fiscal year, which ran from June 1, 2023 to May 30, 2024, according to federal tax documents. That was an increase of about $23 million from the year prior, but that can be attributed mostly to a $25 million exit payment from SMU, which left for the ACC in 2024.<-

-> These numbers are for total payouts and include money for elements such as NCAA postseason tournaments and media rights. The AAC received $70.1 million in TV and radio rights for the 2024 fiscal year.

1. Memphis ($11 million)
2. Tulane ($10.8 million)
3. SMU ($10.4 million)
4. South Florida ($10.3 million)
5. Temple ($9.7 million)
6. East Carolina ($9.7 million)
7. Tulsa ($9.6 million)
8. Navy ($7.3 million)
9. UTSA ($4.9 million)
10. Rice ($4.8 million)
11. Florida Atlantic ($4.3 million)
12. UAB ($4.3 million)
13. Charlotte ($4.3 million)
14. North Texas ($4.2 million)
15. Wichita State ($3.3 million) <-

 

[CTFaninCali]

-> The AAC reported $143,891,433 in revenue for the fiscal year, which ran from June 1, 2023 to May 30, 2024, according to federal tax documents. That was an increase of about $23 million from the year prior, but that can be attributed mostly to a $25 million exit payment from SMU, which left for the ACC in 2024.<-

-> These numbers are for total payouts and include money for elements such as NCAA postseason tournaments and media rights. The AAC received $70.1 million in TV and radio rights for the 2024 fiscal year.

1. Memphis ($11 million)
2. Tulane ($10.8 million)
3. SMU ($10.4 million)
4. South Florida ($10.3 million)
5. Temple ($9.7 million)
6. East Carolina ($9.7 million)
7. Tulsa ($9.6 million)
8. Navy ($7.3 million)
9. UTSA ($4.9 million)
10. Rice ($4.8 million)
11. Florida Atlantic ($4.3 million)
12. UAB ($4.3 million)
13. Charlotte ($4.3 million)
14. North Texas ($4.2 million)
15. Wichita State ($3.3 million) <-

25M of a 23M increase isn’t mostly. The headline is AAC revenue fell, offset by a one-time exit payment by SMU.

 

[UConnJim]

The ACC makes more than the B12 and it is not particularly close.

The B12 had four schools basically making a half share. The per school share will be reduced when they are granted full shares.

The media contracts per school and the CFP/Bowl payout per school are pretty close (remember, ESPN/FOX upped the media contract with the addition of UCF/BYU/Cincinnati/Houston even though Oklahoma and Texas were leaving), but the ACC has the ACCN which is significant per school and, going forward, unequal payouts per school as SMU will receive no media share and Cal and Stanford get 30% for the first 7 years. It's estimated that the overall payout per Big 12 school will be close to $50 million over the next few years.

 

[Fishy]

The media contracts per school and the CFP/Bowl payout per school are pretty close (remember, ESPN/FOX upped the media contract with the addition of UCF/BYU/Cincinnati/Houston even though Oklahoma and Texas were leaving), but the ACC has the ACCN which is significant per school and, going forward, unequal payouts per school as SMU will receive no media share and Cal and Stanford get 30% for the first 7 years. It's estimated that the overall payout per Big 12 school will be close to $50 million over the next few years.

You can try to slice this a zillion ways - the ACC revenue will continue to exceed the B12s

Just telling you what it is.

 

[UConnJim]

You can try to slice this a zillion ways - the ACC revenue will continue to exceed the B12s

Just telling you what it is.

As long as unequal revenue sharing continues and cord cutting doesn’t hit the ACCN, you are correct.

 

[Drew]

 

[JeepCSC]

As long as unequal revenue sharing continues and cord cutting doesn’t hit the ACCN, you are correct.

The ACC has consistently made more than the B12, regardless of revenue share or ACCN payouts. Really the only question is what happens when and if one of the ACC schools try to leave. Then the scramble begins. If it's a limited loss, the ACC might be able to plug holes with West Virginia and UCF. A bigger loss, and then BXII can scavenge on the leftovers (though the gains would likely be minimal as Tier 3 ACC schools aren't really moving many needles).