Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Fishy]

My real question with PE is what is it they think they'll deliver they can't do now... and what i think it's going to be is basically an advertising hellscape. Your parking lots will be brought to you by your local supermarket and they'll lay down road markers for it

Nothing. Seriously, nothing.

If you look at the various super league proposals, their big idea is “schedule better games, make more money.” The PE presence adds no value.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Nothing. Seriously, nothing.

If you look at the various super league proposals, their big idea is “schedule better games, make more money.” The PE presence adds no value.

So, typical PE?

 

[jostar1]

 

[Kolumbo]

My real question with PE is what is it they think they'll deliver they can't do now... and what i think it's going to be is basically an advertising hellscape. Your parking lots will be brought to you by your local supermarket and they'll lay down road markers for it

Despite the negative press, the PE folks know how to maximize revenue. Universities and conferences don't. It's pretty evident when Ohio State and Michigan make the same as Rutgers. I'm not saying I support PE, but they would take a cash cow and squeeze more milk out of it for the whales.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[uconndogs]

Despite the negative press, the PE folks know how to maximize revenue. Universities and conferences don't. It's pretty evident when Ohio State and Michigan make the same as Rutgers. I'm not saying I support PE, but they would take a cash cow and squeeze more milk out of it for the whales.

Good PE firms know how to maximize returns on capital. For the most part they are not operators and when they pretend to be they usually get themselves into trouble.

Are there revenue streams in college athletics to monetize? I'm sure there are........but why you would need PE to do that is a mystery to me.

 

[Kolumbo]

Good PE firms know how to maximize returns on capital. For the most part they are not operators and when they pretend to be they usually get themselves into trouble.

Are there revenue streams in college athletics to monetize? I'm sure there are........but why you would need PE to do that is a mystery to me.

There would be a huge cost for the conference members to hire the right experts to come in, figure it out, and implement the right measures, and it would take time. The PE cash can be used to cover those costs whatever they are. And yes, the PE wants a great return for their efforts. I can see why the conference would consider it if they could significantly increase their revenues.

 

[uconndogs]

There would be a huge cost for the conference members to hire the right experts to come in, figure it out, and implement the right measures, and it would take time. The PE cash can be used to cover those costs whatever they are. And yes, the PE wants a great return for their efforts. I can see why the conference would consider it if they could significantly increase their revenues.

That's advisory work as I see it, not PE, at least in the conventional sense. I've always suspected that most athletic departments and the conferences lacked the skill sets for all of this. Awhile ago college athletics was primarily focused on the student athlete and fan (alumni) experience, so this shift to professional athletic models is very dramatic.

It's ruining college athletics for me.......but that's another matter........

 

[ZooCougar]

Despite the negative press, the PE folks know how to maximize revenue. Universities and conferences don't. It's pretty evident when Ohio State and Michigan make the same as Rutgers. I'm not saying I support PE, but they would take a cash cow and squeeze more milk out of it for the whales.

LOL. The fact that they can rob from Rutgers doesn’t increase the size of pie, it just changes the size of the slices.

The squeeze is the problem.

PE will look at everything from a P&L perspective and want their return. And that comes with an element of pain and loss of autonomy and very few schools will like that.

 

[Urcea]

They do absolutely nothing to show it or court us

 

[ZooCougar]

Put their money where their mouth is.

 

[noeynox]

They do absolutely nothing to show it or court us

What would you like to see them do?

 

[Patman]

They do absolutely nothing to show it or court us

because they have nothing

 

[UConnTrumbull]

What would you like to see them do?

Give us 5% of everyone else’s revenue

 

[Kolumbo]

That's advisory work as I see it, not PE, at least in the conventional sense. I've always suspected that most athletic departments and the conferences lacked the skill sets for all of this. Awhile ago college athletics was primarily focused on the student athlete and fan (alumni) experience, so this shift to professional athletic models is very dramatic.

It's ruining college athletics for me.......but that's another matter........

I agree. The PE firms mentioned specialize in sports and if they don't, I think they'd find the right folks to work the deal. My main point is college sports could probably bring in much more revenue than it does. PE would provide the resources (financial, advisory, commitment) to make it happen. I think.

LOL. The fact that they can rob from Rutgers doesn’t increase the size of pie, it just changes the size of the slices.

The squeeze is the problem.

PE will look at everything from a P&L perspective and want their return. And that comes with an element of pain and loss of autonomy and very few schools will like that.

Actually, the idea is that the pie gets much bigger. Even Rutgers would probably get more, but Ohio State and Michigan get a lot more.

 

[ZooCougar]

What would you like to see them do?

Gives us a bigger share of the credits we earn. Bigger media distro. Rock Star scheduling, lots of conference home games on Saturday nights.

 

[ZooCougar]

I agree. The PE firms mentioned specialize in sports and if they don't, I think they'd find the right folks to work the deal. My main point is college sports could probably bring in much more revenue than it does. PE would provide the resources (financial, advisory, commitment) to make it happen. I think.


Actually, the idea is that the pie gets much bigger. Even Rutgers would probably get more, but Ohio State and Michigan get a lot more.

Actually there are no untapped revenue streams. So the pie isn’t getting bigger.

I know you are a big PE Stan but the only plan out there is to play more games and play “bigger” games. It’s vaporware.

The PE thing is a big waste of time.

 

[Fishy]

Despite the negative press, the PE folks know how to maximize revenue. Universities and conferences don't. It's pretty evident when Ohio State and Michigan make the same as Rutgers. I'm not saying I support PE, but they would take a cash cow and squeeze more milk out of it for the whales.

Hmmmm....do they?

Fire a lot of people, sell off the real estate, give us the proceeds, and lease it back.

There you go.

There's no secret sauce.

 

[Kolumbo]

Actually there are no untapped revenue streams. So the pie isn’t getting bigger.

I know you are a big PE Stan but the only plan out there is to play more games and play “bigger” games. It’s vaporware.

The PE thing is a big waste of time.

Crazy. There is always untapped revenue streams. Surely you've seen the growth in revenue. You just have to be smart enough to find it and actually tap into it. The general population is willing to pay more and more. Some just have to be sold. The people currently running the multi-billion-dollar industry are more or less doing it by accident.

Millions of small business owners bust their tails trying to succeed while getting by. Sometimes a business coach or advisor helps them break through and be very successful if they are willing to make the investment. It happens.

 

[ZooCougar]

Hmmmm....do they?

Fire a lot of people, sell off the real estate, give us the proceeds, and lease it back.

There you go.

There's no secret sauce.

It’s ridiculous how people think this is free money.

 

[ZooCougar]

Crazy. There is always untapped revenue streams. Surely you've seen the growth in revenue. You just have to be smart enough to find it and actually tap into it. The general population is willing to pay more and more. Some just have to be sold. The people currently running the multi-billion-dollar industry are more or less doing it by accident.

Millions of small business owners bust their tails trying to succeed while getting by. Sometimes a business coach or advisor helps them break through and be very successful if they are willing to make the investment. It happens.

Why do they need PE to find it if they are finding it without them?

It’s ridiculous. There is nothing to gain by letting PE come in and take your autonomy.

 

[baggerbob]

Crazy. There is always untapped revenue streams. Surely you've seen the growth in revenue. You just have to be smart enough to find it and actually tap into it. The general population is willing to pay more and more. Some just have to be sold. The people currently running the multi-billion-dollar industry are more or less doing it by accident.

Millions of small business owners bust their tails trying to succeed while getting by. Sometimes a business coach or advisor helps them break through and be very successful if they are willing to make the investment. It happens.

And more and more businesses are going under each year. The only people getting rich are the PE people when they liquidate these national chains.

 

[noeynox]

Give us 5% of everyone else’s revenue

We should demand this! And if they say no, we leave the conference!

 

[GoConn]

Give us 5% of everyone else’s revenue

We should demand this! And if they say no, we leave the conference!

Only 5%? I was thinking 25%.

 

[ZooCougar]

We should demand this! And if they say no, we leave the conference!

Just do it while we are still good so we don’t look idiotic like FSU.