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[Rufus]

October 1, 2024 -

PAC-12 adds Gonzaga.

Mountain West adds UTEP.

PAC-12 wins the day.

 

[UConn Dan]

Texas State is on the clock. They have an offer from MWC and "interest" from PAC-12. My guess is the interest from PAC 12 is an offer with major concessions.

Surprised MWC is going after an FCS school vs. just grabbing NMSU.

 

[metsfan2323]

So the PAC now has enough teams to meet the criteria for being a conference if / when they announce UConn football only?

 

[Vowelguy]

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Surprised MWC is going after an FCS school vs. just grabbing NMSU.

if they get UTEP, Tex St, and Tarleton, that's 3 schools in TX which is not a terrible place to be.

 

[UConn Dan]

So the PAC now has enough teams to meet the criteria for being a conference if / when they announce UConn football only?

I believe technically they would need one more full member including football.

 

[XStorrsion]

So the PAC now has enough teams to meet the criteria for being a conference if / when they announce UConn football only?

Isn't the requirement 8 full members?

 

[metsfan2323]

Isn't the requirement 8 full members?

Gonzaga will be a full PAC member, they just don't have a football team, just like Providence is a full BE member sans baseball. Maybe, I don't know. Regardless, it seems like a dumb outdated rule that should be challenged.

 

[Vowelguy]

Isn't Tarleton in the middle of upgrading as we speak (could have sworn I read more than a year ago that they were making the move). This fell into place nicely for them.

Tarleton is in the UAC football conference (a combo of WAC & ASUN schools). The plan was for the conference to move up in next few years. (But they keep losing teams: 3 moved up to CUSA, 3 went back to Southland.) The conference has basically served as a signal "we are ready to move up."

 

[WrenchFan69]

Gonzaga will be a full PAC member, they just don't have a football team, just like Providence is a full BE member sans baseball. Maybe, I don't know.

The PAC now can be considered an NCAA conference with 8 full members, but they are not considered an FBS conference until they have 8 full football-playing members

 

[Rufus]

No more word on Northern Illinois or Toledo to the MW for football-only. Hopefully those talks were dead from the start. The MW does not pay enough to warrant those added travel expenses.

 

[XStorrsion]

Gonzaga will be a full PAC member, they just don't have a football team, just like Providence is a full BE member sans baseball. Maybe, I don't know.

I think the 8 team requirement comes from the FBS regs. So it's 8 full, football playing members... But who really knows at this point

 

[Urcea]

Gonzaga will be a full PAC member, they just don't have a football team, just like Providence is a full BE member sans baseball. Maybe, I don't know. Regardless, it seems like a dumb outdated rule that should be challenged.

 

[Rufus]

The next deals for media rights for these G5 conferences will be interesting.

The American has lost Houston, Cincinnati, UCF and SMU, even though the current contract pays when they were part of the conference.

The Mountain West has lost their top 5 programs, and the current contract pays for those schools being in the conference.

Conference USA lost half its membership to the AAC last year and those schools were all included in the current CUSA media rights contract.

There are going to be some hurt feelings when the next contracts start for these conferences.

Not to mention, the PAC-12 contract is all speculative at this point.

 

[Rufus]

Sacramento State is on speed dial.

 

[Dooooooomed]

IMO Memphis is gonna regret not making the move.

 

[metsfan2323]

IMO Memphis is gonna regret not making the move.

Memphis to PAC for football (along with UConn) and BE for basketball would be a win/win. BE basketball could use another good basketball brand.

 

[Urcea]

 

[MemphisBlues]

Memphis to PAC for football (along with UConn) and BE for basketball would be a win/win. BE basketball could use another good basketball brand.

That would certainly solve the problem for Memphis and UConn but I wonder if the other Big East schools would be that accommodating.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

What a BS rule

 

[Rufus]

 

[Vowelguy]

Memphis to PAC for football (along with UConn) and BE for basketball would be a win/win. BE basketball could use another good basketball brand.

And you're expecting Memphis can recommend a school with a good basketball brand?

I would be stunned if the BE had ANY interest in a school that has nothing in common.

 

[LBird33]

This is the signal that we might get a FB only invite. This is also the right move for the PAC-12.

Rule number 1. Gulp

 

[UCFBfan]

Yikes! You can't tell me there are not better established options out there than a FCS school that is still in the process of moving up. This shows how desperate this has truly become and it's ridiculous. The PAC is just as desperate. If they add a Sac St, then this entire thing is just a giant pile of dung.

 

[Vowelguy]

Yikes! You can't tell me there are not better established options out there than a FCS school that is still in the process of moving up.

And these great options are?

There are 8 G5 schools not in the PAC/MW.
UTEP & Tex St have already been invited to the MW.
UTSA has said it's staying in the AAC.
That leaves UNT, Rice, Tulsa, Sam Houston, and NMSU.

At the same time that Memp/UTSA re-committed to the AAC, the other 3 above may have as well. And if they hadn't they ain't leaving the AAC for a watered down MW. So basically you're left with Sam Houston & NMSU.

 

[Waquoit]

The PAC now can be considered an NCAA conference with 8 full members, but they are not considered an FBS conference until they have 8 full football-playing members

One good thing about that requirement is that if go to the PAC as a plus 1, the repercussions won't be as serious if/when we leave.