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Aren't we at 50%? We need 12 Yes votes and we have 6.

6/8 is a 75% clip. If the other teams are 8/8 (not impossible, as I feel teams opposed to us would be most likely to leak) we probably sneak in, but 12/16 sound acrimonious.
 

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6/8 is a 75% clip. If the other teams are 8/8 (not impossible, as I feel teams opposed to us would be most likely to leak) we probably sneak in, but 12/16 sound acrimonious.
Just remember, Calford and SMU were added to the ACC with the minimum number of “yes” votes needed- NC State had to flip to make it happen.
 
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Wondering if the following scenario has been pursued (or will be pursued): to maintain the Big East with UConn staying, Fox offers UConn a sizeable football tv deal that is conditioned on UConn remaining in the Big East for basketball?
 
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Big 12 presidents were briefed Monday about the possible addition of UConn to the league without taking action, CBS Sports has learned. The league's lack of unanimity on the issue will require ongoing discussions as the possible next round of realignment looms, sources told CBS Sports.

CBS Sports was able to verify six Big 12 schools in favor of UConn's addition with two against if a vote were taken today. Those schools did not want to be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue. It takes a super majority (at least 12 of the 16 Big 12 schools) to approve such a move.
There are also concerns that UConn is "one of the most heavily subsidized public FBS athletic departments in the country,"

The fact that any "serious" person doesn't understand WHY that's the case is still so incredibly dumbfounding. It's actually pure stupidity. Do they think 1+1=3? In one breathe they complain we don't spend enough money, in another breathe we spend too much money.
 

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Understandable that these things time but also I’m impatient and this needs to happen before we play a single down of football.
 

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Wondering if the following scenario has been pursued (or will be pursued): to maintain the Big East with UConn staying, Fox offers UConn a sizeable football tv deal that is conditioned on UConn remaining in the Big East for basketball?
Doubtful as the CBSSN deal goes through this year with two separate 2 year extension options where CBSSN also gets the first right of refusal if another offer comes in
 

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Don’t think this is good for us. Even though that puts us at a 75% pace, I doubt they add us with that much dissent. Fox opposing is also bad.

I think the most likely scenario is this being “postponed” but UConn taking a spot from BC or Wake if & when the ACC falls apart.
How do you know Fox opposed this? Are you speculating?
 

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Like an odd choice of host for the football coach's show.
 
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I am not as concerned about FOX not being supportive now given ESPN’s support. FOX is only against the move until there is some outcome beneficial to them that gets driven out of it. As an example, when Texas and OU wanted to leave early to go to the SEC this year, FOX was against until they were able to negotiate Texas and Michigan flipping the home/away games on their home and home series this year so that FOX still got to broadcast a Texas game.

The discussions will continue and there are (legitimate) concerns that need to be smoothed over before we are added. The fact that the conversations will continue in an effort to ease those concerns and that both the hired third-party media company, commissioner, and (half) of the TV partners are supportive is a good thing.

Remember, Cal, Stanford and SMU additions took time too. Oregon and Washington originally didn‘t have support from FOX and the B1G. These things take time.
Fox gets us on the cheap now and we keep the BE relevant . Why would they want to damage one of their properties and pay more for the privilege
 
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There are also concerns that UConn is "one of the most heavily subsidized public FBS athletic departments in the country,"

The fact that any "serious" person doesn't understand WHY that's the case is still so incredibly dumbfounding. It's actually pure stupidity. Do they think 1+1=3? In one breathe they complain we don't spend enough money, in another breathe we spend too much money.
Where do they think the money should be coming from? We're a football independent. Donors? The school's endowment? It's like not hiring someone to a good-paying job despite their tremendous qualifications because they currently don't earn enough money from their freelance gig.

Which, come to think of it, is kind of how our society works, isn't it?
 
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There are also concerns that UConn is "one of the most heavily subsidized public FBS athletic departments in the country,"

The fact that any "serious" person doesn't understand WHY that's the case is still so incredibly dumbfounding. It's actually pure stupidity. Do they think 1+1=3? In one breathe they complain we don't spend enough money, in another breathe we spend too much money.
I don't think the spending is the issue. It's from where the money they are spending comes. They'd much rather the money come from a large base of donors than from a state government. A lot has to happen to turn off each individual donor spigot than does the current government subsidy.
 
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Where do they think the money should be coming from? We're a football independent. Donors? The school's endowment? It's like not hiring someone to a good-paying job despite their tremendous qualifications because they currently don't earn enough money from their freelance gig.

Which, come to think of it, is kind of how our society works, isn't it?
It's just people who don't want us making up reasons. You spend too much money guys. We don't want you because you don't spend enough money. If we do let you in were not going to spend any money on you and expect you to spend your own money to get better. But we have concerns you spend too much money.

It's bizzaro world stuff
 
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I don't think the spending is the issue. It's from where the money they are spending comes. They'd much rather the money come from a large base of donors than from a state government. A lot has to happen to turn off each individual donor spigot than does the current government subsidy.
It makes no sense. Green is green. A major donor of a university that props up a program can die and their kids could say screw it I want a yacht not club seats at a football game. It's no different than fears the state would pull back on funding.
 
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Fox gets us on the cheap now and we keep the BE relevant . Why would they want to damage one of their properties and pay more for the privilege
This feels illegal but it's probably not. It's surely a conflict of interest.
 

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I don't think the spending is the issue. It's from where the money they are spending comes. They'd much rather the money come from a large base of donors than from a state government. A lot has to happen to turn off each individual donor spigot than does the current government subsidy.
Bingo- the concern is the lack of big time athletics donors/fundraising (which is something UConn has struggled with for years). Relying on the state to fund improvements to facilities (look at how long its taken to do anything at The Rent, XL, Gampel as an example) rather than a large base of donors is one of many things that highlight the existing issue, along with the lack of initiative related to NIL and low fundraising amount as it relates to football.

I would hope as part of the presentation, AD David Benedict has a list of high end donors willing to step up with multi-year commitments once it becomes official.
 
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6/8 is a 75% clip. If the other teams are 8/8 (not impossible, as I feel teams opposed to us would be most likely to leak) we probably sneak in, but 12/16 sound acrimonious.
Once they get the 12th vote, it will be unanimous. Only the B1G had negative votes when PSU was invited. All the other additions were unanimous.
 
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I don't think the spending is the issue. It's from where the money they are spending comes. They'd much rather the money come from a large base of donors than from a state government. A lot has to happen to turn off each individual donor spigot than does the current government subsidy.
The difference of course is the media money, of which UConn receives very little. If UConn joined the B12, it would instantly vault into the top quarter of the league in spending, even if it reduced it's university subsidy by $20m. And then if it became really aggressive in fake accounting, it would take all the branding revenue for the entire university and include that as athletics income. That's just one common trick. There are many more.
 

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