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David Teel ‏@DavidTeelatDP · 3h3 hours ago
Statement from John Swofford on report that ESPN delaying an #ACC channel: "Anything said ... is premature and speculative."
 
David Teel ‏@DavidTeelatDP · 9h9 hours ago
Blog: John Swofford calls report of ESPN delaying an #ACC channel "premature." http://Post original url/1WlrSye

a perr ‏@aperr2 · 2h2 hours ago
@DavidTeelatDP What amt would be the increased rights fees be in lieu of ACCN?

David Teel ‏@DavidTeelatDP · 2h2 hours ago
@aperr2 Wish I knew.

Jeff ‏@JeffWirth2002 · 3h3 hours ago
@DavidTeelatDP @TheDalyPlanet and where exactly is ESPN getting this money from to pay them - they have mandated budget cuts

David Teel ‏@DavidTeelatDP · 1h1 hour ago
@JeffWirth2002 @TheDalyPlanet May well be contracted.

Forrest Clinard ‏@forrestatty · 3h3 hours ago
@DavidTeelatDP thanks for info. Swofford can't keep being vague. If his relationships can't get this done maybe we need new commish.

David Teel
‏@DavidTeelatDP @forrestatty Yes, sir. The non-negotiable is that ACC needs more revenue. Somehow, some way.
 
NYUConn said:
If this were any other Big 12 prez than Gee, I think it wouldn't be newsworthy.

But the fact that West Virginia, out on an island, who has been most vocal about expansion, is saying "We are happy at 10 teams" makes me think there is no consensus to expand right now.

It feels like he's measuring expectations with a comment like that. So that when the Big 12 doesn't expand he can point back and say, "What? I've been saying all along we are happy at 10."
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Or is that movement is planned or possible and they been told to be quiet? If nothing were happening, why refer questions back to Bowlsby?
 
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CL82 said:
Or is that movement is planned or possible and they been told to be quiet? If nothing were happening, why refer questions back to Bowlsby?
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Standard media deflection tactic. Any time a principal doesn't want to answer questions you punt it away.

It's why during a criminal investigation people typically get quoted as saying something like, "Due to an ongoing police investigation we cannot comment further at this time. Please contact the PD with additional inquiries."
 
NYUConn said:
Standard media deflection tactic. Any time a principal doesn't want to answer questions you punt it away.

It's why during a criminal investigation people typically get quoted as saying something like, "Due to an ongoing police investigation we cannot comment further at this time. Please contact the PD with additional inquiries."
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I'm not sure that's really apples to apples. There's a whole lot reasons why you wouldn't want comment during an ongoing investigation. Here, if the issue is dead, just say it's dead. Moving questions to a central point man is an indication that you are managing the message. JMO.
 
Of course "right now" in expansion parlance would not necessarily extend to "later this afternoon."
 
Travis Haney ‏@TravHaneyESPN · 4h4 hours ago
Houston not messing around: Board willing to go $3 mil per to keep Tom Herman. Road map to join Power 5 league part of pitch, as well.
 
Glastonhusky said:
I'd like to see exactly what their "road map" looks like.
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Dave Sittler ‏@DaveSittler 13h13 hours ago
The time has come the walrus said to talk of many things - of shoes and ships and Oklahoma changing conferences and becoming Big Ten kings!

ChuckSinclair ‏@ChipnBogey 12h12 hours ago Lincoln, NE
@DaveSittler Would love to see OU in the B1G.

Dave Sittler ‏@DaveSittler 12h12 hours ago
Many would want Castiglione's statue in OU's Heisman Park if OU AD pulls off B1G move and brings back OU-NU yearly.

Chris Park ‏@chrisdopark 12h12 hours ago
@DaveSittler I have ZERO interest in joining the big 10.

Dave Sittler ‏@DaveSittler 12h12 hours ago
Talk to me in a few weeks after the CFP committee screws the Big 12 yet again.
 
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RustyHusky said:
OU and KU to the B1G makes sense...
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Not geographically. All signs have pointed to the B1G expanding their footprint and media presence east. OU football would be a reason to backtrack and take them, but I have trouble seeing then double down in the low-population areas of the Midwest.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Not geographically. All signs have pointed to the B1G expanding their footprint and media presence east. OU football would be a reason to backtrack and take them, but I have trouble seeing then double down in the low-population areas of the Midwest.
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Kansas is a bridge to connect Oklahoma geographically. They're also a big athletic department. Taking KU to get OU along is nowhere near as bad as taking say Oklahoma State in order to get OU along. KU also has history with NU and OU dating back to the Big 6 Conference days. Hell KU and NU go back to the Missouri Valley Intercollegiate Athletic Association back in 1907. Iowa was a football member of the conference as well.

This isn't happening regardless so it doesn't matter.
 
Drew said:
Kansas is a bridge to connect Oklahoma geographically. They're also a big athletic department. Taking KU to get OU along is nowhere near as bad as taking say Oklahoma State in order to get OU along. KU also has history with NU and OU dating back to the Big 6 Conference days. Hell KU and NU go back to the Missouri Valley Intercollegiate Athletic Association back in 1907. Iowa was a football member of the conference as well.

This isn't happening regardless so it doesn't matter.
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The point isn't to be a bridge, the point is it would increase the B1G's footprint in a part of the country they very clearly are not trying to target competitively and from a revenue perspective. OU being an enormous national brand in football could be an exception to this, but if they did, it would seem less likely they'd add a second southern/midwest school. Not to mention OU is not an AAU school, and neither them nor KU are bastions of academics. In fact, both would dampen the B1G's academic brand.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
The point isn't to be a bridge, the point is it would increase the B1G's footprint in a part of the country they very clearly are not trying to target competitively and from a revenue perspective. OU being an enormous national brand in football could be an exception to this, but if they did, it would seem less likely they'd add a second southern/midwest school. Not to mention OU is not an AAU school, and neither them nor KU are bastions of academics. In fact, both would dampen the B1G's academic brand.
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Being a bridge would be critical. If air travel is banned.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
The point isn't to be a bridge, the point is it would increase the B1G's footprint in a part of the country they very clearly are not trying to target competitively and from a revenue perspective. OU being an enormous national brand in football could be an exception to this, but if they did, it would seem less likely they'd add a second southern/midwest school. Not to mention OU is not an AAU school, and neither them nor KU are bastions of academics. In fact, both would dampen the B1G's academic brand.
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The point isn't that they'd take KU alone, but that if KU came with OU they'd make much more sense than saying "we want to pluck OU and UConn"

I obviously want UConn in regardless of who the other school is but there's other factors at play here. Nebraska/Wisconsin/Iowa are pissed as is because they don't get to play the B1G brands from the East enough. Do you think they'd be happy adding Indiana to their division so UConn can play those schools more? "How is Indiana different than playing Kansas"? Same thing that someone could ask here: "How is playing Rutgers different than playing SMU"?

People from those schools think of KU differently than they do UConn, in the same way we view KU differently than we view UConn. KU has a history with the midwestern B1G schools and if OU says "we'll come if you take KU as well" the B1G isn't going to say "no we want UConn instead".

If there is an eastern partner as 15, then UConn makes sense as 16. The only current B1G school that UConn really has a history with is Rutgers and I'm not sure how much that helps/hurts our case.
 
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Drew said:
Not to mention the whole "contiguous states" concept they've been trying to follow
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"Contiguous States" is a phrase that works in the land of rectangular states as a way of saying we don't want one member to be too far from the next nearest member. So if you don't mind looking at facts instead of cliches:

1. Connecticut misses being contiuous with New Jersey by a whopping 17 miles or so, which is relevant to absolutely nothing.

2. In terms of distances -- far more important -- Oklahoma would be 333 miles from its bridge in Lawrence. And the bridge from Lawrence to Lincoln, Nebraska is another 194 miles. Norman is a whopping 450 miles currently from its nearest Big Ten city in Lincoln. Storrs to Piscataway is 184 miles.

The point being, you're not doing Oklahoma any big geographic favor by bringing in KU -- Oklahoma is isolated either way. I'm not one who is overly optimistic about a Big Ten invite, but if KU is chosen over us it will not be for miles but for $$$$.
 
Drew said:
The point isn't that they'd take KU alone, but that if KU came with OU they'd make much more sense than saying "we want to pluck OU and UConn"

I obviously want UConn in regardless of who the other school is but there's other factors at play here. Nebraska/Wisconsin/Iowa are pissed as is because they don't get to play the B1G brands from the East enough. Do you think they'd be happy adding Indiana to their division so UConn can play those schools more? "How is Indiana different than playing Kansas"? Same thing that someone could ask here: "How is playing Rutgers different than playing SMU"?

People from those schools think of KU differently than they do UConn, in the same way we view KU differently than we view UConn. KU has a history with the midwestern B1G schools and if OU says "we'll come if you take KU as well" the B1G isn't going to say "no we want UConn instead".

If there is an eastern partner as 15, then UConn makes sense as 16. The only current B1G school that UConn really has a history with is Rutgers and I'm not sure how much that helps/hurts our case.
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Athletically yes....academically No. As a member of Universities 21 UCONN is joined by tOSU and UMD as the representatives from the USA. They are also partnering with the University of Wisconsin in the National Bio-NMR Center.
 
Stinger92860 said:
KU? But football drives the bus, right?
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We're talking about the B1G here who took Rutgers and Maryland. Not exactly football powerhouses. Oklahoma however DOES have a certain brand equity, as does Kansas, and the two would make a nice pair to join Nebraska. We'd only make sense with another eastern candidate as 15 and 16, but if the BigXII collapses, it's hard to say no to Oklahoma and Kansas.
 
businesslawyer said:
"Contiguous States" is a phrase that works in the land of rectangular states as a way of saying we don't want one member to be too far from the next nearest member. So if you don't mind looking at facts instead of cliches:

1. Connecticut misses being contiuous with New Jersey by a whopping 17 miles or so, which is relevant to absolutely nothing.

2. In terms of distances -- far more important -- Oklahoma would be 333 miles from its bridge in Lawrence. And the bridge from Lawrence to Lincoln, Nebraska is another 194 miles. Norman is a whopping 450 miles currently from its nearest Big Ten city in Lincoln. Storrs to Piscataway is 184 miles.

The point being, you're not doing Oklahoma any big geographic favor by bringing in KU -- Oklahoma is isolated either way. I'm not one who is overly optimistic about a Big Ten invite, but if KU is chosen over us it will not be for miles but for $$$$.
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With a B1G office in NYC, I think we now meet the contiguous quasi requirement regardless.
 
RustyHusky said:
We're talking about the B1G here who took Rutgers and Maryland. Not exactly football powerhouses. Oklahoma however DOES have a certain brand equity, as does Kansas, and the two would make a nice pair to join Nebraska. We'd only make sense with another eastern candidate as 15 and 16, but if the BigXII collapses, it's hard to say no to Oklahoma and Kansas.
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Nonsense.
 
I think we're going to see the BigXII collapse, and I don't think that's good for us unless conferences go to 20...at which point, we make sense for the B1G or ACC.
 
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