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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

aburks41 said:
If the ACC is still concerned with markets over brands, then they deserve everything that is about to happen to them in the next few years. People do not care about SMU vs any ACC team. People do care about UConn vs half of their old rivals. A UConn v Duke basketball game would deliver more viewers than the highest rated SMU football game lmao
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It doesn't matter all that much what the ACC wants - it's about what ESPN wants and ESPN wants brands/rivalries (whereas Fox wants markets).
 
I feel a little bad for Wazzu in terms of understanding their pain. But … what have they been doing for the past year? It was very clear the PAC was in trouble — they needed to be working overtime to either keep things together or start their contingency plans.

I recall a while back when Wake Forest was rallying hard in the ACC — they knew they were in the most precarious situation if the conference failed, so they worked to keep things in order.
 
UConnJim said:
I agree that nobody will care about SMU playing ACC schools. But, that is not my point.

Historically, in the linear channel cable bundle model, the conference networks get 2 rates: in market and out of market. For example, Rutgers is in the NYC media market so NYC pays the in market rate for the Big 10 Network. It is assumed that SMU, since it is in the Dallas/Forth Worth market, would bring the ACCN the in-market rate. The difference between the 2 rates could be $1/month per subscriber. So, adding SMU could add up to $3 million per month. or $36 million per year to the ACC Network in subscriber fees.
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Ok - so someone please explain how Syracuse generates any money for the ACC. Syracuse, the city/TV market, is a pimple on the ass of progress. It is about 1/3 the size of the Hartford market, let alone the rest of CT. Do they have any believable data about Syracuse, the school, generating any revenue outside that sorry region in upstate NY? Is it supportable? You hear about alumni BS. What gives?
 
Sea Goat said:
Ok - so someone please explain how Syracuse generates any money for the ACC. Syracuse, the city/TV market, is a pimple on the ass of progress. It is about 1/3 the size of the Hartford market, let alone the rest of CT. Do they have any believable data about Syracuse, the school, generating any revenue outside that sorry region in upstate NY? Is it supportable? You hear about alumni BS. What gives?
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Supposedly it delivers the NYC market. Not sure how that works considering Syracuse is closer to Canada than NYC.
 
Vowelguy said:
I feel a little bad for Wazzu in terms of understanding their pain. But … what have they been doing for the past year? It was very clear the PAC was in trouble — they needed to be working overtime to either keep things together or start their contingency plans.

I recall a while back when Wake Forest was rallying hard in the ACC — they knew they were in the most precarious situation if the conference failed, so they worked to keep things in order.
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Whole thing fell apart cause Oregon and Washington had their own agenda to get to the B1G. Mission accomplished sister state schools be damned.
 
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upstater said:
The Wash St U. Pres thinks they should jack up student fees to help pay for the school's budget shortfall.

Tuition and fees for instate is $13,800. So, sure, let the students pay for it!
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Tuition in the state of Washington is a lot cheaper than in Connecticut. UConn in-state is $19k so yeah, let them pay.

CR really sucks but I don't feel bad for any schools who are jumping ship or jumping into the frozen ocean waters. Not one program has been shafted as much as UConn has.
 


Would you guys accept that offer that SMU might take? I get it seems like a terrible deal but once your in the club, eventually youll make money down the line.
 
Sea Goat said:
Ok - so someone please explain how Syracuse generates any money for the ACC. Syracuse, the city/TV market, is a pimple on the ass of progress. It is about 1/3 the size of the Hartford market, let alone the rest of CT. Do they have any believable data about Syracuse, the school, generating any revenue outside that sorry region in upstate NY? Is it supportable? You hear about alumni BS. What gives?
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Syracuse U is private and despite its location, is probably more connected to NYC than it is to the town of Syracuse. I'll bet a majority of its grads work in or around NYC. That could be changing though as tuitions are climbing and the the SUNY system is excellent.
 
noeynox said:
Whole thing fell apart cause Oregon and Washington had their own agenda to get to the B1G. Mission accomplished sister state schools be damned.
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That was foreseeable a year ago.
 
HungryHuskies said:
There's gotta be something going on internally within the ACC. There's gotta be something we don't know. Stanford, Cal, SMU??????
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Stanford and Cal make some sense. SMU doesn't make sense unless they need a partner for UConn. Why would they add 3 schools?
 
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CTFAN4LIFE said:
It doesn't matter all that much what the ACC wants - it's about what ESPN wants and ESPN wants brands/rivalries (whereas Fox wants markets).
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Huh? If ESPN wanted brands and rivalries, it certainly would not be going after Cal, Stanford, and SMU lol. They would take UConn and put them up against old conference foes Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, BC, VT, Miami…not to mention our significant tournament history with Duke
 
Kolumbo said:
Syracuse U is private and despite its location, is probably more connected to NYC than it is to the town of Syracuse. I'll bet a majority of its grads work in or around NYC. That could be changing though as tuitions are climbing and the the SUNY system is excellent.
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I think it is a mirage. No one has any real info on the dynamics if any. Sounds like something ESPN could dream up. Syracuse is, at best, a second tier, expensive ($80k+/year) private school. More importantly, how have they advanced the fortunes of the ACC? How many ACC titles have they won? They have won only one BB Natty two decades ago - pre- ACC. Also, they have won only one football Natty and that was during the Eisenhower administration. No baseball either! Boy, the BS is deep!
 
aburks41 said:
Huh? If ESPN wanted brands and rivalries, it certainly would not be going after Cal, Stanford, and SMU lol. They would take UConn and put them up against old conference foes Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, BC, VT, Miami…not to mention our significant tournament history with Duke
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Except, football rules the day and we aren't that desirable in football yet.
 
I thought I just read any expansion requires approval of 12 of the 15 ACC members.
Even if we offered to take no revenue for 5 years, I can’t imagine BC, Cuse, FSU, and Clemson voting us in.
There just is no route to get into the ACC for us.
Hope that the Big 12 decides to take UConn and say San Diego State if they do actually follow thru and add two more members - which is no guarantee.
 
The Viking said:
I thought I just read any expansion requires approval of 12 of the 15 ACC members.
Even if we offered to take no revenue for 5 years, I can’t imagine BC, Cuse, FSU, and Clemson voting us in.
There just is no route to get into the ACC for us.
Hope that the Big 12 decides to take UConn and say San Diego State if they do actually follow thru and add two more members - which is no guarantee.
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CL82 said:
Storrs is closer to NYC than Syracuse.
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Oh I know and I believe there are TV markets between Syracuse's and NYC's. UConn has a campus practically in the shadow of the Manhattan skyline, but yeah, they want us to believe Syracuse which is like 5 hours away from the city has a big impact there.
 
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If Cal and Stanford can't get in the ACC, I believe they will go independent as that is the only available way they can still be seen as a P4 school or equivalent.

As long as they reach an agreement with the other two and the MW, Stanford and Cal could keep the Pac X branding and rebuild an Olympic sports conference in their image.

See the following:
Cal
Stanford
Hawaii
UC Santa Barbara
UC Davis
UC Irvine
UC Riverside
UC San Diego

Cal and Stanford could keep the precious P4 designation in football and have a strong Olympic sports conference.
 
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