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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

"ACC is now Big East."

True...but paid a bunch more.

Swofford summed it up well...way back..NY Times

“The world is a much different place now in that regard,” Swofford said. “For decades, as a conference, we made more headlines in basketball and more money in basketball, and there was nothing inherently wrong with that. Obviously, basketball remains a huge part of our success and identity today."

Financially speaking, as well, basketball ruled the ACC universe. Every single year, through its first five decades, when the ACC calculated and divided its shared revenue (money from TV contracts, the NCAA Tournament, the ACC Tournament, bowl games, etc.), basketball was paying the majority of the bills.
 
AllHusky said:
Have been a student of realignment since 1981. Have understood the variables behind the decision making process until recently. Didn't always agree with the decisions, but saw the logic used(see Rutgers and BC). I cannot see what the heck some of these folks are thinking about any more. Nothing screams panic more that the Calford SMU add to the ACC. Yormark had the right idea with UConn, but knuckled under to some of the midwest schools. Somehow I believe we are going to end up OK, but for the life of me don't know how or why. Maybe have a bad case of CR Rule #1, similar to Stockholm Syndrome.
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All you need to know about the ACC and how they feel about UConn is see that they added SMU. I want to be optimistic but UConn is extremely undesirable to other conferences. I don't see that changing...
 
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Rondogg said:
All you need to know about the ACC and how they feel about UConn is see that they added SMU. I want to be optimistic but UConn is extremely undesirable to other conferences. I don't see that changing...
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I don't know if we are "undesirable" so much as not desired. There's a difference.

I agree with you that the ACC has had plenty of chances to invite us and for various reasons has not done so. There would seem to be a need for a paradigm shift in order for that to change. The departure of the marquee programs from the ACC would seem to be such a change. of course, the question is whether we would want to join an ACC leftover conference. The answer to that will depend on 1) who is left, 2) what are they offering in terms of conference distributions and 3) whether anyone else to offer.
 
SMU paid their way...

To make up for foregoing media rights revenue distribution for its first nine years in the conference, influential SMU donor David Miller was able to get $200 million in donation commitments from the school’s richest boosters, according to Yahoo Sports.

When Miller met with the top boosters to seal the move to the ACC, the combined net worth of the room was believed to be about $15 billion.

“It’s a couple hundred million dollars,” Miller said. “I’m not losing sleep over it.”
 
billybud said:
Georgia Tech has played in the Final since Syracuse last played in a Final..(GT lost to UConn). Syracuse won the NC in 2003 and then faded.
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It's almost as if the fruit's success all hinged on one coach, something that was wrongly attributed to UConn who have won the men's BB championship with 3 different coaches since the fruit last tasted glory...how utterly ironic. Kick out the one hit wonders.
 
Exit 4 said:
Adding to the board room come this summer
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Because when you're not paying someone anything you don't care if they want to start a couple of months earlier?
 
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Seems like there are three options here for ESPN.
1) battle it out in court to keep the current deal and never fold.
2) use the pending 2025 lookin as a means to amend the deal with an incentive laden extension that somehow steers more money to the ACC top dogs (the ACC would need to agree) and brings them closer or above the B12 (but well short of the SEC and B1G).
3) work with the ACC on a settlement formula to let schools walk and see what happens.

I wonder if #2 would be the cheapest....but it will never be enough to close the gap for FSU, Clemson or UNC.
 
Of note, Fluguar believes all but Miami are the target of SEC and/or B1G expansion. And the SEC's desires might be as much about blocking the B1G as anything else. So can an ACC that loses 6 teams still operate? Maybe, but better hope the B12 doesn't get a green light to expand too.
 
Exit 4 said:
Of note, Fluguar believes all but Miami are the target of SEC and/or B1G expansion. And the SEC's desires might be as much about blocking the B1G as anything else. So can an ACC that loses 6 teams still operate? Maybe, but better hope the B12 doesn't get a green light to expand too.
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The P4 lost Alston 9-0 at the Supreme Court, and are about to lose another huge antitrust lawsuit in House, and they are consolidating further? Really?
 
SMU joins the ACC on July 1 because June 30 is the last day of a media rights year for The American (and most conferences).

The current PAC-12 media rights has a final date of August 1. Therefore, none of the PAC-12 schools can move until August 2.
 
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Exit 4 said:
Adding to the board room come this summer
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I think it’s because that when the PAC’s official start of the 2024-2025 season. If they left earlier, they would technically be leaving before their current contract ends.
 
Exit 4 said:
Seems like there are three options here for ESPN.
1) battle it out in court to keep the current deal and never fold.
2) use the pending 2025 lookin as a means to amend the deal with an incentive laden extension that somehow steers more money to the ACC top dogs (the ACC would need to agree) and brings them closer or above the B12 (but well short of the SEC and B1G).
3) work with the ACC on a settlement formula to let schools walk and see what happens.

I wonder if #2 would be the cheapest....but it will never be enough to close the gap for FSU, Clemson or UNC.
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Pretty sure th ACC already makes more than the B12 due to the ACC network
 
UConnTrumbull said:

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Looks like Benedict is stuck in storrs with us!
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I know this is the boneyard and I'm biased but I'd take his $1M salary (or just shy of it) living in CT with all the success the AD has had over living in Tempe making $1.2M or whatever their best offer might have been. ASU athletics are so mid.
 
CashewCrew said:
I know this is the boneyard and I'm biased but I'd take his $1M salary (or just shy of it) living in CT with all the success the AD has had over living in Tempe making $1.2M or whatever their best offer might have been. ASU athletics are so mid.
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well, stable job and stable living might beat out home but an unstable future
 
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Exit 4 said:
Of note, Fluguar believes all but Miami are the target of SEC and/or B1G expansion. And the SEC's desires might be as much about blocking the B1G as anything else. So can an ACC that loses 6 teams still operate? Maybe, but better hope the B12 doesn't get a green light to expand too.
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12 has the most to gain relatively with programs like Miami, NCSt, VT and GT likely becoming available. They'll definitely be involved.
 
JMick said:
Sure 10 years ago right off the split we weren't. Now we most definitely are.
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Depends who you ask and for what purpose. I think what he was referencing was the fact that the Big Ten either prohibits or discourages scheduling G5 opponents for conference members, but for the purposes of the application of that rule they consider Connecticut to be a "power school."

On the other hand, in last summers flirtation with the big 12 we heard that conference members preferred to add power schools to the conference and that's why Connecticut was not chosen.
 
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