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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

upstater said:
?? That's more like fun with numbers. When you pile in on the AD revenues in one sports, you can make anything look like anything. & many people hide the expenditures elsewhere, many of them hide it on the academic side and it's not in the budget at all.

Overall numbers and facilities debt is the most telling sign of health for these departments.
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Ok, well Utah was 36th among public schools in revenue overall with $115 million, sandwiched between Kansas and Purdue. Though $13m was from allocated state money, so really it's closer to Virginia Tech and Texas Tech range. Either way it's above Colorado, UCLA, Mississippi State, Maryland, NC State, Rutgers and other schools with more lucrative media contracts.
 
JMick said:
I'm not expecting him to directly say something but it doesn't seem crazy to me to have some curated leaks through media mouthpieces like every other major program does.
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I'd rather have everyone associated with UConn keep their mouths shut and work behind the scenes. I find it pretty impressive that Yormark was actually on campus and it went essentially unreported until Russ Steinberg tweeted it out.
 
The wording “ASU and Utah will follow AZ” is interesting.

Does the B12 want them? With 2 teams gone, I’d be turning up the heat on Wash and Ore first before taking anyone else.
 
djct1999 said:
Exactly. His silence is encouraging more than discouraging.
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BINGO

Those calling for Dave to make public statements right now are fools. If Dave is making comments publicly that aren't accepting an invite, it's almost a guarantee the school isn't going anywhere.

This is NOT the time for a PR campaign from the school.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
This is where our fan base misses the point.

Football, at least in terms of what we've been fighting for a couple decades now, is more important than everything else combined when it comes to collegiate sports.
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It’s about money unless you believe they took Rutgers for their football program and not their market.

Yormack is not taking UConn or U of A if they get the invite because of football. He’s gambling on a paradigm shift. It’s his opinion that basketball is undervalued. He’s not saying it’s worth more than football. He’s creating a conference that has the best opportunity to increase revenue for bb over what bb is generating now.
 
king conn said:
Well, how this works is, someone responds to a post with a question, you answer it.

Why is that so hard? And why would you say I am the only one arguing it? Others have said the same thing. I happen to be the one getting the replies.

So the rule according to you is I am only to reply to something you agree with?
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Asking questions, getting responses, and replying is on thing. It’s been going on for two or three pages! Let it go.
You’re trying to prove something that isn’t provable.
 
Vowelguy said:
The wording “ASU and Utah will follow AZ” is interesting.

Does the B12 want them? With 2 teams gone, I’d be turning up the heat on Wash and Ore first before taking anyone else.
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Exactly. What are Oregon and Washington doing behind the scenes? Those are by far the biggest names available in the Pac. If the Big XII isn't in contact with them, there must be a reason. And it's not because they hate money.
 
ctchamps said:
It’s about money unless you believe they took Rutgers for their football program and not their market.

Yormack is not taking UConn or U of A if they get the invite because of football. He’s gambling on a paradigm shift. It’s his opinion that basketball is undervalued. He’s not saying it’s worth more than football. He’s creating a conference that has the best opportunity to increase revenue for bb over what bb is generating now.
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But what is he going to do that the old BE or the ACC of 2015-2019 weren't doing? Pay per view games?
 
jostar1 said:
I don't think our fan base misses the point. It's just that Brett Yormark has been talking a different game and we got our hopes up.
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Yeah but we're still on the outside looking in despite his talk and our willingness to go in if asked.
 
JeepCSC said:
But what is he going to do that the old BE or the ACC of 2015-2019 weren't doing? Pay per view games?
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That’s a good question. But he has a plan and was able to sell it to the media partners. We’ll have to wait much longer than this current round of realignment to know what it is and if it can be successful.

But we can infer there must be merit. Entities rarely give away money without some basis for success.
 
upstater said:
It will be very hard though to get them to travel to B12 locales other than Orlando. This conference really is unappealing. Some places like Lawrence, Kansas could have appeal, but they're hard to get to from Hartford.

Ever been to Stillwater, OK? I have. It was hard to keep my jaw from dropping as I was driven through town. And I don't mean that in a good way. The coals joke that it got its name not because the water was still but because there was still some water over there.
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Unfortunately - the same is true for travelling from Boulder to Storrs. Much more likely to travel from Durham or Pittsburgh.
Top teams travel to Happy Valley, Athens GA etc- there is so much money in college football- travel is just the cost of doing business
 
djct1999 said:
I had a better time in Ft. Worth than I did in Raleigh, just sayin.
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Many flight options to DFW and only 20 miles from there to downtown Ft. Worth and a few more to the TCU campus and new football stadium. The stockyards area is pretty cool, including the longhorn cattle drive down Main Street, the old west store fronts, hotels, saloons, not to mention Billy Bob’s, the worlds largest honky tonk bar and indoor rodeo. Downtown area of Ft. Worth has a lot of hotel, dining and entertainment options, all walkable, and only 5 miles to the TCU campus and new Amon Carter stadium.
 
I get the sense that it was about to be Arizona as team #14 and the B12 was going to stop there for now. The thinking was that UConn would still be there in 2 years when the pro-rata for the B12 kicks in and they can expand to 16 in 2025 with the automatic pro-rata contract increase instead of having to negotiate the contract increase for teams #15 and #16 now.

However, the FSU rumors that are out there may be a saving grace for UConn. If BY and the B12 are serious about building up basketball and the east coast--they may not be able to hold off for UConn in 2 years. If the FSU rumors of paying to get out of the ACC immediately, then there is a real threat of the ACC taking UConn to backfill the conference now. So the luxury that the B12 had of being able to wait for UConn in 2 years may not be there and if they truly want to get UConn, an elite basketball program, and their first true Eastern presence--they may lose out if they do not bring us in now.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
BINGO

Those calling for Dave to make public statements right now are fools. If Dave is making comments publicly that aren't accepting an invite, it's almost a guarantee the school isn't going anywhere.

This is NOT the time for a PR campaign from the school.
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Unless, as is likely, nothing happens. And then the Boneyard will be wondering if he was on vacation and where.
 
Why does Arizona have to be 14? Why couldn’t we be announced as 14? Are the Arizonas too proud to take the 16th label? We coulda even been 13th if our spot was actually guaranteed…
 
ctchamps said:
It’s about money unless you believe they took Rutgers for their football program and not their market.

Yormack is not taking UConn or U of A if they get the invite because of football. He’s gambling on a paradigm shift. It’s his opinion that basketball is undervalued. He’s not saying it’s worth more than football. He’s creating a conference that has the best opportunity to increase revenue for bb over what bb is generating now.
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Yes, it is about money. But it's primarily -- overwhelmingly primarily -- about FOOTBALL MONEY.
 
UConnSportsGuy said:
I get the sense that it was about to be Arizona as team #14 and the B12 was going to stop there for now. The thinking was that UConn would still be there in 2 years when the pro-rata for the B12 kicks in and they can expand to 16 in 2025 with the automatic pro-rata contract increase instead of having to negotiate the contract increase for teams #15 and #16 now.

However, the FSU rumors that are out there may be a saving grace for UConn. If BY and the B12 are serious about building up basketball and the east coast--they may not be able to hold off for UConn in 2 years. If the FSU rumors of paying to get out of the ACC immediately, then there is a real threat of the ACC taking UConn to backfill the conference now. So the luxury that the B12 had of being able to wait for UConn in 2 years may not be there and if they truly want to get UConn, an elite basketball program, and their first true Eastern presence--they may lose out if they do not bring us in now.
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If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

Our theories for why this is going to work out become more and more attenuated. Aren't we at the point where just waiting to see would be just as comforting?
 
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Hmm. That last Dellenger tweet is kind of interesting. What about that supposed deadline?
 

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