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Season 8 Episode 22 GIF by THE NEXT STEP


(You can thank me later.);)
I thanked you before I posted knowing ahead of time you were going to have my back.
 
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It would not surprise me if the B12 went to 20 teams by adding UW, O, Stanford, Cal, A, ASU, Utah. That gives them protection against getting poached by the B1G and the SEC in 6-7 years. It also gives them the PAC 12 network. Yormark sees strength in numbers.

The ACC could also offer UW, O, Stanford, Cal & ASU or SMU. These additions might get ND to join in football. They play 5 ACC games plus Stanford every year already.

Our strategy should be to make the ACC worry that the B12 is about to invite us and get them to make a preemptive invite to us instead of an ASU or an SMU. In 6-7 years for the B12 or for the ACC in 10-12 years, either conference can get poached if they don’t get better media deals.
 
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The Bill Self comments are a strong tell that the B12 is talking about 16 schools NOW. I don't know how they're going to get this over on the TV networks in this environment BUT, I would have to think that we're talking about Arizona as absolutely in. Self mentioned the BE.

Here's where it may become dicey for UConn. Oregon and Washington are a complete mystery at this point, but if Oregon is taking the B12 seriously, why wouldn't Washington? Both schools are in the same exact boat. If the B1G isn't looking to add soon, then both schools know what they're looking at. I can't fathom how Oregon would go to the B12 but not UW. That makes no sense.

I'm guessing it might be Arizona, UConn, Arizona St. are the additions.
Oregon and Washington will only join the Big 12 now in a scenario where the Pac 12 lost so many schools that the conference loses their power 5 label and the auto bid to the new college football playoff. In theory, if the Pac loses good football teams, but keeps the autobid, then that could actually be good for the best Pac 12 football schools like Oregon and Utah. These schools also have the belief that if they don't get a BIG 10 invite, then they can get a Big 12 invite down the road. So it's extremely unlikely that any of them move now.

I also don't think Arizona wants to leave for the Big 12 without having another Pac 12 member join as a rival for them. UConn would be above Stanford, Cal, Oregon St, and Washington St in the order of most desirable schools for the Big 12. Utah, Washington, and Oregon will wait to see how things play out in realignment over the next 5 years. So that leaves Arizona and Arizona State as either a package deal or no deal IMO. Hence why the insiders at UConn are very confident that they will get an invite UNLESS something very unexpected happens like the Pac 12 gets informed that they are losing their power conference label and losing their auto bid to the college football playoff.
 
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Coach P and Diaco sucked, killed any momentum the program had. Hiring back the snake was the worst thing the school ever did though. The guy should've been banished after he quit on his players and left in his plane for his dream school. That looked like the school threw in the towel. It's amazing they were able to hire Mora after that. Dave Benedict has done a seriously good job turning things around.
He "quit on the players?" Is that even possible after the season was over?
 
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BL,

I could well be wrong but I personally believe that it is entirely plausible that none of the parties involved foresaw the possibility of Colorado departing the P-12 at this time with the P-12 still without a media deal.
Sure, but until about two weeks ago everyone was expecting to have the Pac's deal announced by its media day.

Is it possible? Sure. But as I said, if that's actually what happened BY is not the superman everyone here is saying he is.
 
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He "quit on the players?" Is that even possible after the season was over?
He pulled that cr@p with Todman about how he needed to be a man and needed to address his teammates on why he was leaving them. At the same time the snake already knew he was going to Maryland and didn't even fly back with his players and address them on why he was leaving them.

He had every right to take another job but he's a world class hypocrite and a coward.
 
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It would not surprise me if the B12 went to 20 teams by adding UW, O, Stanford, Cal, A, ASU, Utah. That gives them protection against getting poached by the B1G and the SEC in 6-7 years. It also gives them the PAC 12 network. Yormark sees strength in numbers.

The ACC could also offer UW, O, Stanford, Cal & ASU or SMU. These additions might get ND to join in football. They play 5 ACC games plus Stanford every year already.

Our strategy should be to make the ACC worry that the B12 is about to invite us and get them to make a preemptive invite to us instead of an ASU or an SMU. In 6-7 years for the B12 or for the ACC in 10-12 years, either conference can get poached if they don’t get better media deals.
That is a stupid take. 20 makes it easier and if those bigger schools want to leave they will leave.
 
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Thanks. So basically, UConn will say yes to a $40M annual raise. Shocker lol.

I did love the bit about a UConn coach privately crapping on Chris Murphy’s take. That’s awesome.
Let's be clear. Calling for UConn to turn down a Big12 invite is calling for football to be shut down or relegated. And it's also hurting the long term viability of all other sports that wish to compete for championships. It's just financial reality. You gotta pay for stuff.
 
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It would not surprise me if the B12 went to 20 teams by adding UW, O, Stanford, Cal, A, ASU, Utah. That gives them protection against getting poached by the B1G and the SEC in 6-7 years. It also gives them the PAC 12 network. Yormark sees strength in numbers.

The ACC could also offer UW, O, Stanford, Cal & ASU or SMU. These additions might get ND to join in football. They play 5 ACC games plus Stanford every year already.

Our strategy should be to make the ACC worry that the B12 is about to invite us and get them to make a preemptive invite to us instead of an ASU or an SMU. In 6-7 years for the B12 or for the ACC in 10-12 years, either conference can get poached if they don’t get better media deals.
Why would the Big 12 take all these teams that aren't worth anything? I mean surely the Pac 12 would have compromised and said you know what we'll just play our games a couple hours early to get more exposure if that's what the TV guys want to save the conference.
 
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He pulled that cr@p with Todman about how he needed to be a man and needed to address his teammates on why he was leaving them. At the same time the snake already knew he was going to Maryland and didn't even fly back with his players and address them on why he was leaving them.

He had every right to take another job but he's a world class hypocrite and a coward.
You didn't say he was a hypocrite and a coward, and I didn't disagree with those statements. You said he quit on his team. I am pointing out that it is simply wrong to claim a coach can quit on his team after a season is over. He doesn't have a team to quit on at that point until it gathers for the next season, and either players or coaches are free to leave before the next season starts.

I get it, we hate Edsall so we're allowed to attack him however we want, but saying a coach quit on players after a season ends is just silly.
 

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Sure, but until about two weeks ago everyone was expecting to have the Pac's deal announced by its media day.

Is it possible? Sure. But as I said, if that's actually what happened BY is not the superman everyone here is saying he is.
Yes, and this is one set of circumstances (nearly August and no PAC media deal) that plausibly nobody foresaw, leading to a number of things needing to be discussed/determined before the next move. Adding to this equation is that evidently, as there is no media deal, a P-12 school can leave after the upcoming academic/athletic year (as Colorado did) and have no departure fees or penalties.
 

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Hurley ended the UConn practice today by grabbing the microphone and thanking the fans before finishing with some like “and no I don’t know if we are joining the Big 12 or not” :D
Sly minx Hurley is.
 

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I get it, we hate Edsall so we're allowed to attack him however we want, but saying a coach quit on players after a season ends is just silly.
Coaches aren't just hired seasonally. He just bailed on the team and went to Maryland instead of coming back and explaining his decision. Characterizing that as "quitting on the team" probably isn't all that unfair.

For what it's worth I'm not one of those people who think that Randi was brought back to scuttle the team. I think he genuinely regretted the way he left and his legacy. I think coaching for Connecticut was probably the highlight of his career. Unfortunately, in his comeback he undisputably quit on the team by announcing his resignation early on in the season.
 

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Honestly this entire section of the BY should be shut down. We’ve talked ourselves into a wild scenario that’s clearly never going to happen. I give our football team 3-5 more years before they kill it.
Thank you for your interest in UConn athletics and conference realignment. You can see yourself out and never come back.
 
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Coaches aren't just hired seasonally. He just bailed on the team and went to Maryland instead of coming back and explaining his decision. Characterizing that as "quitting on the team" probably isn't all that unfair.

For what it's worth I'm not one of those people who think that Randi was brought back to scuttle the team. I think he genuinely regretted the way he left and his legacy. I think coaching for Connecticut was probably the highlight of his career. Unfortunately, in his comeback he undisputably quit on the team by announcing his resignation early on in the season.
Should have focused on an offensive game plan instead of negotiating a contract with Maryland. He was a penis personified.
 
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You didn't say he was a hypocrite and a coward, and I didn't disagree with those statements. You said he quit on his team. I am pointing out that it is simply wrong to claim a coach can quit on his team after a season is over. He doesn't have a team to quit on at that point until it gathers for the next season, and either players or coaches are free to leave before the next season starts.

I get it, we hate Edsall so we're allowed to attack him however we want, but saying a coach quit on players after a season ends is just silly.
Yes, he quit on his team. He wouldn't even fly with them or see them face to face.

This isn't difficult.
 
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He pulled that cr@p with Todman about how he needed to be a man and needed to address his teammates on why he was leaving them. At the same time the snake already knew he was going to Maryland and didn't even fly back with his players and address them on why he was leaving them.

He had every right to take another job but he's a world class hypocrite and a coward.
Yes, treating Todman that way appalled me after seeing what he then did. That was classless.
 
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Yes, he quit on his team. He wouldn't even fly with them or see them face to face.

This isn't difficult.
Sigh. We've been through this so many times ovewr the last 13 years. Fact -- quitting on your team would have been bailing out before the Fiesta Bowl, as a clear majority of coaches bailing out do. He stayed. The fact that he gets more criticism for leaving immediately AFTER the bowl game than coaches get for leaving their teams in the lurch before the bowl game is totally irrational.

Was he a jerk for handling the Todman situation the way he did? That's perfectly rational. But I'm not getting dragged into this again. I've said my piece. People can disagree, attack or whatever.
 
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Sigh. We've been through this so many times ovewr the last 13 years. Fact -- quitting on your team would have been bailing out before the Fiesta Bowl, as a clear majority of coaches bailing out do. He stayed. The fact that he gets more criticism for leaving immediately AFTER the bowl game than coaches get for leaving their teams in the lurch before the bowl game is totally irrational.

Was he a jerk for handling the Todman situation the way he did? That's perfectly rational. But I'm not getting dragged into this again. I've said my piece. People can disagree, attack or whatever.
We disagree. My opinion is he quit on them, yours is he didn't quit on them.
 

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