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JMick said:
Nah reports will come out that Yormark really wanted us but couldn't convince the schools. It'll let us save a little face.

I have found the silence from the AD to be deafening. Our reporters have been busy writing "what if" pieces instead of writing anything or substance or finding anything out. How do all these other schools have media drips and we don't?
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What exactly would you want AD Dave to say publicly right now?
 
JohnFSilver said:
Just let stuff

Why would Arizona and ASU Board if Reageants, who run both schools, hurt asu? They aren’t. It has to be a package deal
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I agree....but...........the California Board of Regents run both Cal and UCLA. They let UCLA split from Cal with a minor Calimony tax. They didn't even require the schools to play each other going forward.
 
JMick said:
It's not "one sport" it's the sport. How do some of you not get this yet?
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Stop living in 2010. The paradigm has shifted. With streaming becoming more of a player, they need content. It’s more than just football now. You don’t get it.
 
huskidork said:
sports not football, football is one sport and even then despite the lack of success we have had recently, we're a bigger brand
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This is where our fan base misses the point.

Football, at least in terms of what we've been fighting for a couple decades now, is more important than everything else combined when it comes to collegiate sports.
 
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JeepCSC said:
Utah football revenue was $75 million in 2022. It's a huge moneymaker.
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?? That's more like fun with numbers. When you pile in on the AD revenues in one sports, you can make anything look like anything. & many people hide the expenditures elsewhere, many of them hide it on the academic side and it's not in the budget at all.

Overall numbers and facilities debt is the most telling sign of health for these departments.
 
JMick said:
Nah reports will come out that Yormark really wanted us but couldn't convince the schools. It'll let us save a little face.

I have found the silence from the AD to be deafening. Our reporters have been busy writing "what if" pieces instead of writing anything or substance or finding anything out. How do all these other schools have media drips and we don't?
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This is a great point. When is the last time the Hoard had a scoop?It is amazing that none of them apparently have sources, or even if they did, they don’t have the stones to write anything tangible on this issue.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
This is where our fan base misses the point.

Football, at least in terms of what we've been fighting for a couple decades now, is more important than everything else combined when it comes to collegiate sports.
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I don't think our fan base misses the point. It's just that Brett Yormark has been talking a different game and we got our hopes up.
 
The theory that holds with BY getting UConn in based on delivering 3 PAC schools sounds good

But Big 12 schools may say, you brought us 3 crappy football schools, we don't want 4, give us Utah.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
What exactly would you want AD Dave to say publicly right now?
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I'm not expecting him to directly say something but it doesn't seem crazy to me to have some curated leaks through media mouthpieces like every other major program does.
 
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Big Loubowski said:
This is a great point. When is the last time the Hoard had a scoop?It is amazing that none of them apparently have sources, or even if they did, they don’t have the stones to write anything tangible on this issue.
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I think it's because most of these other schools reporters don't actually know anything. They just make stuff up lol
 
djct1999 said:
Stop living in 2010. The paradigm has shifted. With streaming becoming more of a player, they need content. It’s more than just football now. You don’t get it.
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If this were true then we'd be in a power conference already.

When we talk about sports the only sport that matters to the member institutions is football. Wether they're right about that or not doesn't matter because they've been told the same thing for decades and don't just change their opinions on a whim.
 
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JMick said:
If this were true then we'd be in a power conference already.

When we talk about sports the only sport that matters to the member institutions is football. Wether they're right about that or not doesn't matter because they've been told the same thing for decades and don't just change their opinions on a whim.
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Then why is espn hemorrhaging money? The last time around, they were collecting carriage fees on over 100 million customers. That’s been reduced by atleast a third. The game changed.
 
upstater said:
?? That's more like fun with numbers. When you pile in on the AD revenues in one sports, you can make anything look like anything. & many people hide the expenditures elsewhere, many of them hide it on the academic side and it's not in the budget at all.

Overall numbers and facilities debt is the most telling sign of health for these departments.
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Ok, well Utah was 36th among public schools in revenue overall with $115 million, sandwiched between Kansas and Purdue. Though $13m was from allocated state money, so really it's closer to Virginia Tech and Texas Tech range. Either way it's above Colorado, UCLA, Mississippi State, Maryland, NC State, Rutgers and other schools with more lucrative media contracts.
 
JMick said:
I'm not expecting him to directly say something but it doesn't seem crazy to me to have some curated leaks through media mouthpieces like every other major program does.
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I'd rather have everyone associated with UConn keep their mouths shut and work behind the scenes. I find it pretty impressive that Yormark was actually on campus and it went essentially unreported until Russ Steinberg tweeted it out.
 
The wording “ASU and Utah will follow AZ” is interesting.

Does the B12 want them? With 2 teams gone, I’d be turning up the heat on Wash and Ore first before taking anyone else.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
This is where our fan base misses the point.

Football, at least in terms of what we've been fighting for a couple decades now, is more important than everything else combined when it comes to collegiate sports.
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It’s about money unless you believe they took Rutgers for their football program and not their market.

Yormack is not taking UConn or U of A if they get the invite because of football. He’s gambling on a paradigm shift. It’s his opinion that basketball is undervalued. He’s not saying it’s worth more than football. He’s creating a conference that has the best opportunity to increase revenue for bb over what bb is generating now.
 
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king conn said:
Well, how this works is, someone responds to a post with a question, you answer it.

Why is that so hard? And why would you say I am the only one arguing it? Others have said the same thing. I happen to be the one getting the replies.

So the rule according to you is I am only to reply to something you agree with?
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Asking questions, getting responses, and replying is on thing. It’s been going on for two or three pages! Let it go.
You’re trying to prove something that isn’t provable.
 
Vowelguy said:
The wording “ASU and Utah will follow AZ” is interesting.

Does the B12 want them? With 2 teams gone, I’d be turning up the heat on Wash and Ore first before taking anyone else.
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Exactly. What are Oregon and Washington doing behind the scenes? Those are by far the biggest names available in the Pac. If the Big XII isn't in contact with them, there must be a reason. And it's not because they hate money.
 
ctchamps said:
It’s about money unless you believe they took Rutgers for their football program and not their market.

Yormack is not taking UConn or U of A if they get the invite because of football. He’s gambling on a paradigm shift. It’s his opinion that basketball is undervalued. He’s not saying it’s worth more than football. He’s creating a conference that has the best opportunity to increase revenue for bb over what bb is generating now.
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But what is he going to do that the old BE or the ACC of 2015-2019 weren't doing? Pay per view games?
 
jostar1 said:
I don't think our fan base misses the point. It's just that Brett Yormark has been talking a different game and we got our hopes up.
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Yeah but we're still on the outside looking in despite his talk and our willingness to go in if asked.
 
JeepCSC said:
But what is he going to do that the old BE or the ACC of 2015-2019 weren't doing? Pay per view games?
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That’s a good question. But he has a plan and was able to sell it to the media partners. We’ll have to wait much longer than this current round of realignment to know what it is and if it can be successful.

But we can infer there must be merit. Entities rarely give away money without some basis for success.
 
upstater said:
It will be very hard though to get them to travel to B12 locales other than Orlando. This conference really is unappealing. Some places like Lawrence, Kansas could have appeal, but they're hard to get to from Hartford.

Ever been to Stillwater, OK? I have. It was hard to keep my jaw from dropping as I was driven through town. And I don't mean that in a good way. The coals joke that it got its name not because the water was still but because there was still some water over there.
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Unfortunately - the same is true for travelling from Boulder to Storrs. Much more likely to travel from Durham or Pittsburgh.
Top teams travel to Happy Valley, Athens GA etc- there is so much money in college football- travel is just the cost of doing business
 
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