Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Husky92]

Anyone see a Key Tweet around here? I must be in the wrong place…

 

[FfldCntyFan]

@FfldCntyFan do you have any explanation as to why we were not able to recruit the same level of student as our conference peers?
Edsall had a tougher time getting kids in here?

Edsall always made this claim, especially during 1.0 and there was some validity to it but from things I've discovered after the fact it wasn't as bad as he made it appear.

There were a couple local players (even after RE left) who went elsewhere because they couldn't get through our academic screening process (Matakevich comes to mind) but there were a couple that may have been able to get through it RE was willing to push a little more (one WR who landed at Rutgers, his name escapes me).

I don't think we will again see a case where a player won't qualify academically here but will at a place like Rutgers.

 

[DGB]

You do realize that Pitt and Louisville are state schools, right? There is no chance Yormak views UConn as being ahead of the schools the B12 just invited, or we would have been invited. Cinci played in the football playoff two years ago. Houston has recent history of success. UCF brings Florida recruiting visibility. BYU, despite their brand, is the worst of those 4.

You're thinking basketball. Yormark may think it is undervalued and it is, but it's still way below football.

Yeah Pitt and Louisville are second fiddle to PSU and UK in their own cities. So while Wikipedia might say they are state schools, for purposes of this conversation they really aren't.

Also, Yormark came to the Big 12 after the additions of Cincinatti, Houston, and UCF...so no UConn would not have been invited then if he viewed UConn to be ahead of them. He wasn't there to invite UConn. Your recruiting point isn't bad...but recent success in football is a shortsighted factor as those schools are not football powers and never will be. They are also rans in their states that can never replace Texas and Oklahoma brands in football. UConn has a better chance of being a big brand program in football because they could dominate recruiting in a state/region (see something like is going on in baseball). Cincinatti, Houston, and UCF will never dominate their regions in football recruiting becasue there are MUCH bigger fish in their ponds.

And no...I'm not thinking just basketball. I'm trying to think like a conference executive who knows Texas and Oklahoma can't be replaced by equal football powers. I'm thinking brand, support, eyeballs. UConn sports in general already beats those programs and the ones I mentioned from the ACC. UConn football has the potential to be far bigger than those programs in a real conference. It was on its way to that before Big East football imploded.

 

[Conquistador]

Anyone see a Key Tweet around here? I must be in the wrong place…

Agreed! At this point, we have a better shot at tidbits on the Non-Key Tweets thread!

 

[Rufus]

After reading numerous posts about UC with misspellings, I thought I should point out the correct spelling of Cincinnati.

 

[businesslawyer]

The Arlington Renegades will never play to a full stadium with an XFL schedule. But if you put them in the NFL playing the Giants, Cowboys and Eagles, they will immediately sell-out. In this new landscape of fewer, more powerful conferences and required in-conference scheduling, there is no other way to consistently play high-quality/sell-out-worthy opponents unless you're in a P3 conference. Just my opinion.

What have I said that makes you think I disagree with that?

 

[huskymedic]

 

[JohnFSilver]

Over the last 20 years, why is Colorado better than UConn Athletics?

I guess we can say Denver market, but outside of that what do they have?

Colorado would die for the success of UConn sports over the last 25 years. In the current “P5”, the bottom 20% of P5 teams are worse gets from UConn. The only thing they do better than UConn is collect a paycheck .

Their facilities, fanbase, market, and athletic success and potential are better than many P5 teams.

It’s getting to be annoying the narrative. UConn isn’t taking a step up in the Big 12 or ACC. It’s kind of who they are where they belong.

 

[JohnFSilver]

UConn has a P5 budget. They feel that is what they need to sustain their athletic competitiveness.

Also, give me a break on the directors cup. Gymnastics, bowling ,fencing and wrestling as well as all swimming and tennis are essentially niche sports.

Should be a metric for team sports that are in nearly every conference.

 

[noeynox]

Yale and Villanova? With FCS football?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Over the last 20 years, why is Colorado better than UConn Athletics?

I guess we can say Denver market, but outside of that what do they have?

Colorado would die for the success of UConn sports over the last 25 years. In the current “P5”, the bottom 20% of P5 teams are worse gets from UConn. The only thing they do better than UConn is collect a paycheck .

Their facilities, fanbase, market, and athletic success and potential are better than many P5 teams.

It’s getting to be annoying the narrative. UConn isn’t taking a step up in the Big 12 or ACC. It’s kind of who they are where they belong.

I don't disagree but the argument can easily be made that Colorado has competed successfully at the P-5 level of football from the days when Byron Whizzer White (supreme court justice) was an all American through now, even won a national title a few decades ago and, specific to the B-12 has a history with the conference and many of its members (some relationships go back more than a century).

In defending our dissertation we are still leaving as an open item the question of whether we can sustain a football program at this level.

 

[DGB]

I don't disagree but the argument can easily be made that Colorado has competed successfully at the P-5 level of football from the days when Byron Whizzer White (supreme court justice) was an all American through now, even won a national title a few decades ago and, specific to the B-12 has a history with the conference and many of its members (some relationships go back more than a century).

In defending our dissertation we are still leaving as an open item the question of whether we can sustain a football program at this level.

I get your point...but this isn't an open item. UConn was a solid, well supported football program when in a power conference for essentially a decade. It endured a series of bad hires and a terrible conference/money situation for another decade...and survived.

The football program showed it could thrive in a good conference. It showed it could survive after being cast off not for bad play or lack of support...but because of the whims of conference realignment.

If in a power conference, this state/fanbase can easily sustain a power conference football program. There's nothing more to prove. After the first decade, there really never was.

 

[kingdobbs]

Yale and Villanova? With FCS football?

Yale sponsors 35 varsity sports.

Villanova 24.

 

[Ha Who]

How dare you interrupt this thread with an actual tweet

 

[Urcea]

highest non-P2 is Virginia at 14th, $161.9m. Clemson is 17th, $158m. Oregon is 19th, $153m. Louisville and Washington round out the non-P2 with 146m (23rd) and 145.1m (25th)

 

[billybud]

Hmmmm...last year, #15 FSU......beat #6, #8, #10, #17 in funding..

But..the problem is after 2024 those ranking numbers get pulled llike weak taffy when the new P2 contracts take effect.

 

[billybud]

Also...only Publics are ranked...USC and Notre Dame would crack the list...

 

[dwalks93]

FSU also beat #6, #8, and #17 in whining while not winning anything.

FSU is the new Texas….all talk, no action.

 

[HuskyHawk]

highest non-P2 is Virginia at 14th, $161.9m. Clemson is 17th, $158m. Oregon is 19th, $153m. Louisville and Washington round out the non-P2 with 146m (23rd) and 145.1m (25th)

And some people think UConn would be chosen over Louisville right now.

 

[BigTenFan]

And some people think UConn would be chosen over Louisville right now.

Don't sleep on Louisville football now
New coach and heavy recruiting

 

[CL82]

Over the last 20 years, why is Colorado better than UConn Athletics?

I guess we can say Denver market, but outside of that what do they have?

Colorado would die for the success of UConn sports over the last 25 years. In the current “P5”, the bottom 20% of P5 teams are worse gets from UConn. The only thing they do better than UConn is collect a paycheck .

Their facilities, fanbase, market, and athletic success and potential are better than many P5 teams.

It’s getting to be annoying the narrative. UConn isn’t taking a step up in the Big 12 or ACC. It’s kind of who they are where they belong.

You tell them Silver!

 

[billybud]

FSU also beat #6, #8, and #17 in whining while not winning anything.

FSU is the new Texas….all talk, no action.

Except FSU has won two NC's since 2000....Money hasn't yet separated Ohio State, Texas A&M, Texas, from FSU in terms of NC's of late.

I get the animosity...but FSU did rank #10 end of season last year...and did beat those monied schools..

 

[dwalks93]

For years Texas destabilized the Big12 and teams like TAMU actually left to get away from Texas. At the end Texas blocked any additions prior to jumping ship effectively making sure the Big12 couldn’t adapt until after they left.

FSU is now playing that role in the ACC. And FSU is certainly not suffering in silence.

Btw FSU was #10 at the end of the year? At UConn we recognize championships.

 

[Hoophound]

For years Texas destabilized the Big12 and teams like TAMU actually left to get away from Texas. At the end Texas blocked any additions prior to jumping ship effectively making sure the Big12 couldn’t adapt until after they left.

FSU is now playing that role in the ACC. And FSU is certainly not suffering in silence.

Btw FSU was #10 at the end of the year? At UConn we recognize championships.

FSU deserves a little understanding from us. We know what bad hires do to a program. They went and got a good coach and they are bouncing right back.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Don't sleep on Louisville football now
New coach and heavy recruiting

Yeah, they average about 44k. They are a second fiddle to UK on the basketball side, but not really on the football side. One of the teams that will likely benefit from the portal with coaching sorted out.

I think we need to be cautious in reading too much into the Big XII talking about basketball being undervalued. @JohnFSilver Colorado has a football national championship and name brand. Even pre "Coach Prime" they averaged 44k for home football last year, and they went 1-11. Think about that. Basketball has gotten a little better under current coach, .664 winning %. 8 combined mens/women cross country championships since 2000.

Most importantly, the message of having them come back, is absolutely invaluable to the Big XII after so many teams left. It's the school they want most, I guarantee it.