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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

CL82 said:
Let’s be honest, it is a complete slap in the face to Rutgers. A clear statement that the Big Ten doesn’t value them. A humiliation, on a daily basis. Frankly, if I were them, I would just withdraw from the conference. Today.

I mean, it’s not like the Big Ten could replace them with another school from a state that is part of the NYCDMA! Certainly, even if they could get a school, it wouldn’t be one with more name recognition, 15 basketball championships and, dare I say it, more knowledgeable and well, more attractive, fans.

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Somehow, I have a hard time imagining Rutgers being shocked that its athletic department isn't viewed the same way as USC's or UCLA's.
 
businesslawyer said:
Somehow, I have a hard time imagining Rutgers being shocked that its athletic department isn't viewed the same way as USC's or UCLA's.
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Somehow, I get the feeling you don’t actually know anyone from Rutgers…;)

They manage to be both incredibly self-deluded and incredibly needy the same time.
 
huskymedic said:
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I’m surprised nobody has mentioned this quote in the article from Big10 Commish Kevin Warren:

Warren said he was proud that USC and UCLA are AAU (Association of American University) members but also said being an AAU member is not a requirement for a potential future member.

This dispels one of the big requirements that the Big10 was thought to have had. Opens up many more universities that were previously thought to have been off limits. Notice that UNC and UVA were not mentioned in the tweet.
 
CL82 said:
People have forgotten that for a while it was unclear which was the better conference, the Big East or the ACC. Indeed, there has been risk of the ACC falling apart for quite some time now. That is why the school presidents opted for a draconian GOR. The ACC survived solely because ESPN chose to fund its evisceration of the Big East. Basically, ESPN made the business decision that it was less expensive to consolidate more D1 teams in one conference and pay them a premium than to pay to D1 conferences. They made the decision that the ACC would be the surviving conference. Had they decided to consolidate in the Big East, we would be in a far better position today. Have they decided that consolidation in the ACC must include the University of Connecticut, we would be in a far better position today. They did neither.

So, basically, ESPN, a Connecticut company, was the architect and financier of the evisceration of the big east conference which in turn cost the university and thus the state of Connecticut, literally, hundreds of millions of dollars. That should never be forgotten in this state. There may be a time that ESPN comes to us with a hat in hand asking for incentives again. Any legislator who votes in favor of that should immediately be voted out in the next election.
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BINGO!
 
dayooper said:
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned this quote in the article from Big10 Commish Kevin Warren:

Warren said he was proud that USC and UCLA are AAU (Association of American University) members but also said being an AAU member is not a requirement for a potential future member.

This dispels one of the big requirements that the Big10 was thought to have had. Opens up many more universities that were previously thought to have been off limits. Notice that UNC and UVA were not mentioned in the tweet.
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Yea… but it’s also provides cover as ND is not an AAU member.
 
CL82 said:
Somehow, I get the feeling you don’t actually know anyone from Rutgers…;)

They manage to be both incredibly self-deluded and incredibly needy the same time.
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I'm not sure that anyboby actually knows anyone from Rutgers.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I'm not sure that anyboby actually knows anyone from Rutgers.
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I don’t understand where people are coming from here. I know people from Rutgers. Lawyers, friends children, others. It’s bigger than UConn and they share a metropolitan area with Fairfield County. That’s what made the football rivalry fun.
 
dayooper said:
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned this quote in the article from Big10 Commish Kevin Warren:

Warren said he was proud that USC and UCLA are AAU (Association of American University) members but also said being an AAU member is not a requirement for a potential future member.

This dispels one of the big requirements that the Big10 was thought to have had. Opens up many more universities that were previously thought to have been off limits. Notice that UNC and UVA were not mentioned in the tweet.
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I vote for Miami and FSU. Let's get this done.
 
www.cbssports.com

Big Ten evaluating Cal, Oregon, Stanford and Washington from Pac-12 as further expansion considered

Could the Big Ten balloon to a 20-team (or more) league?
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

-> Industry sources tell CBS Sports that Cal, Oregon, Stanford and Washington would not bring requisite value as the 16 teams that will make up the league in 2024 with USC and UCLA in the fold. That could lead to the four programs taking substantially less revenue than existing members just to have long-term security in the Big Ten.

The revenue cut taken by Cal, Oregon, Stanford and Washington in joining the Big Ten -- compared to other conference members -- would need to be "significant," industry sources say. That would present a headache to rightsholders trying to restructure a deal already in place.

However, the revenue those four teams could receive would still likely be far higher than the combined value of the 10 remaining Pac-12 schools together. That number is estimated as $21 million to $30 million per school annually.

Still, rightsholders who land portions of the lucrative Big Ten deal (still being negotiated) would be forced to outlay additional funds for those schools. The Big Ten's contract is already projected to be north of $1 billion annually. <-
 
Interesting that Miami and Florida State are on the short list mentioned above, but not UVA, UNC, Duke, GT or Clemson.

I think a presence in Florida is good for the B1G. It would be good for the B1G to have a presence in Texas as well, but their isn’t much to pick from there.

My personal preference for the seven:

1. Notre Dame
2. Stanford
3. Florida State
4. Miami
5. Oregon
6. Washington
7. Cal
 
Rufus said:
Interesting that Miami and Florida State are on the short list mentioned above, but not UVA, UNC, Duke, GT or Clemson.

I think a presence in Florida is good for the B1G. It would be good for the B1G to have a presence in Texas as well, but their isn’t much to pick from there.

My personal preference for the seven:

1. Notre Dame
2. Stanford
3. Florida State
4. Miami
5. Oregon
6. Washington
7. Cal
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Honestly, I think 48 teams is the end game, here. Kevin Warren said yesterday that AAU membership is not a requirement, but they would have to fit in with the academics of the conference. Here’s my 8:

1. ND
2. Stanford
3. Washington
4. Oregon

1-4 are pretty common choices and only ND could have issues leaving their current conference.

5. FSU
6. GT

I think 5-6 are important to the Big10 and less so to the SEC. The SEC would already have the top schools in each state and these 2 would give the Big10 a presence, albeit a lesser one.

7. Miami
8. Cal

7-8 are the longest shot. A private school that’s 3rd in popularity and an academic powerhouse that has poor major sports. I, personally would not want Cal nor Miami, but I see each of them as something Big10 presidents would like.

You are wondering where UNC and UVA are? If the Big10 and SEC are going to break up the ACC, neither conference can have everything. As has been floated here and other sites, there’s talk that UNC and UVA are so important to the SEC that they would take VT and Duke/NCST to get them. Let’s say they take VT and Duke, that puts them at 4.

1. UNC
2. UVA
3. VT
4. Duke

5. Clemson
6. Cincinnati

Clemson is a no brainer, but Cinci gives the SEC a foothold in a huge, football crazed state. UC is a huge, well decorated school with pretty good athletics. Cinci is about as southern as Lexington KY is and would fit right in.

The last 2, much like the Big10 are a little harder. Here’s my ideas.

7. Pitt
8. Colorado

Much like GT in Georgia, Pitt in the SEC is a solid #2 in a huge state. The football isn’t as good as it used to be in Pennsylvania, but owning Pittsburgh (a football crazed town) might be useful. Colorado is a reach, but it’s a new and large market that has a great football legacy. Oklahoma/Colorado games have history so you could play off of that.

The current crazy idea of breaking the ACC GOR is to disband the conference and you need 8 to do it. (I’m not saying you can, but that’s the talk right now). You will have to find homes for at least 8 teams. Could the SEC take all 8 to get to 24? Sure, but it would be wiser to spread the lesser teams between the 2 with the Big10 only getting ND and FSU as what would be somewhat valuable schools to the SEC. This would find homes for 9 ACC teams (plus ND). That would leave BC, Syracuse, NCST, Wake Forest and Louisville as schools left out. Could the SEC trade Colorado or Pitt for them? Sure, but I’m not sure they add much more than the other 2 do.

Edit: I’m not saying this will happen, just a scenario.
 
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JeepCSC said:
I wonder if Notre Dame would ask for a Florida school for recruiting purpose
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In the age of players getting paid I have to believe this is of diminishing importance.

Besides if a really good Florida player is that concerned about playing in his home state there are plenty of good options for him in Florida.
 
It was an old Dean Smith tactic, to schedule a game near a player’s home town so their family and friends could see them in uniform. Easier to recruit a player away from home if you sold them on the idea they could still play locally at least once.

Though whether NIL and modernity has blown up that consideration, who knows. The Florida ACC schools could just be low-hanging fruit since the SEC already has the Gators.
 
dayooper said:
Honestly, I think 48 teams is the end game, here. Kevin Warren said yesterday that AAU membership is not a requirement, but they would have to fit in with the academics of the conference. Here’s my 8:

1. ND
2. Stanford
3. Washington
4. Oregon

1-4 are pretty common choices and only ND could have issues leaving their current conference.

5. FSU
6. GT

I think 5-6 are important to the Big10 and less so to the SEC. The SEC would already have the top schools in each state and these 2 would give the Big10 a presence, albeit a lesser one.

7. Miami
8. Cal

7-8 are the longest shot. A private school that’s 3rd in popularity and an academic powerhouse that has poor major sports. I, personally would not want Cal nor Miami, but I see each of them as something Big10 presidents would like.

You are wondering where UNC and UVA are? If the Big10 and SEC are going to break up the ACC, neither conference can have everything. As has been floated here and other sites, there’s talk that UNC and UVA are so important to the SEC that they would take VT and Duke/NCST to get them. Let’s say they take VT and Duke, that puts them at 4.

1. UNC
2. UVA
3. VT
4. Duke

5. Clemson
6. Cincinnati

Clemson is a no brainer, but Cinci gives the SEC a foothold in a huge, football crazed state. UC is a huge, well decorated school with pretty good athletics. Cinci is about as southern as Lexington KY is and would fit right in.

The last 2, much like the Big10 are a little harder. Here’s my ideas.

7. Pitt
8. Colorado

Much like GT in Georgia, Pitt in the SEC is a solid #2 in a huge state. The football isn’t as good as it used to be in Pennsylvania, but owning Pittsburgh (a football crazed town) might be useful. Colorado is a reach, but it’s a new and large market that has a great football legacy. Oklahoma/Colorado games have history so you could play off of that.

The current crazy idea of breaking the ACC GOR is to disband the conference and you need 8 to do it. (I’m not saying you can, but that’s the talk right now). You will have to find homes for at least 8 teams. Could the SEC take all 8 to get to 24? Sure, but it would be wiser to spread the lesser teams between the 2 with the Big10 only getting ND and FSU as what would be somewhat valuable schools to the SEC. This would find homes for 9 ACC teams (plus ND). That would leave BC, Syracuse, NCST, Wake Forest and Louisville as schools left out. Could the SEC trade Colorado or Pitt for them? Sure, but I’m not sure they add much more than the other 2 do.

Edit: I’m not saying this will happen, just a scenario.
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You are way overvaluing Oregon and Washington. It's already been put out there those schools don't have large concentrations of B1G alumni, aren't big recruiting areas and don't pull in many TV's.
 
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