Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[The Viking]

it's one thing to mention on a Hartford station what your thoughts happen to be on that given day, but it's another to write an article for everyone to see saying that your final two choices are UConn and BYU.
It's not like a week from now he can write an article saying he would pick UH and Boise. I mean he could but he would look like a damned fool.

 

[FDNY99]

This is all politicking. He wrote what his contacts told him to write: a UConn puff piece. Horse trading has begun.

Tramel is extremely tied in to OU athletics...he's been a OU beat guy for a long time. I think you are spot on here.

 

[TRest]

I don't think that UConn would drop them, but it does sort of tie in with the recent talk of UConn and the Big East. Maybe some of these sports would go to the Big East.

I think he was suggesting we drop sports that the B12 actually plays, which would create a lot of Title 9 issues. It was discussed previously on this board, but there aren't many examples of schools splitting their sports into two or more conferences when their primary conference sponsors those sports.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I don't think that UConn would drop them, but it does sort of tie in with the recent talk of UConn and the Big East. Maybe some of these sports would go to the Big East.

The B12 doesn't even sponsor men's soccer. Why is he mentioning it? We will likely go Big East for that regardless. I like that he's seeing the obvious truth of "University of", but he still sells us short and overstates the travel issue.

 

[shizzle787]

We offer 10 men's sports (basketball, baseball, football, soccer, hockey, track/field, swimming/diving, golf, tennis, and cross country) while offereing 12 women's sports (basketball, softball, volleyball, soccer, hockey, swimming/diving, track/field, tennis, cross country, rowing, field hockey, and lacrosse). The Big 12 doesn't offer men's soccer, men's or women's ice hockey, or women's field hockey. The first and the last could go to the Big East, while hockey stays where it is. However, I do believe we should get closer to the NCAA minimum number of sports to save costs so I believe (keeping Title IX considerations) that we should can men's golf, men's and women's tennis, and men's and women's cross country.

 

[huskymedic]

Duarte usually provides decent coverage so I'm surprised nary a mention of UConn:
AAC preview: Schools battle for more than just position on field

 

[History Geek]

Duarte usually provides decent coverage so I'm surprised nary a mention of UConn:
AAC preview: Schools battle for more than just position on field

Yes, that is weird. Even the part stating what teams have been speculated going to the Big 12 is missing UConn. Its like we don't exist any more.

 

[Alum86]

Yes, that is weird. Even the part stating what teams have been speculated going to the Big 12 is missing UConn. Its like we don't exist any more.

Yes, that is weird. Even the part stating what teams have been speculated going to the Big 12 is missing UConn. Its like we don't exist any more.

To Houston, we're Tulane apparently

 

[jostar1]

Ken Broo ‏@kenbroo · 8h8 hours ago  Alaska, USA
Some Big 12 expansion talk on the way with our man in Texas, Ben Kercheval from CBS Sports - News, Live Scores, Schedules, Fantasy Games, Video and more. on @700wlw

Ken Broo ‏@kenbroo · 7h7 hours ago  Alaska, USA
Ben Kercheval from CBS Sports - News, Live Scores, Schedules, Fantasy Games, Video and more. just told me on @700wlw he thinks Cincinnati and Memphis will be B12 expansion choices.

C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox · 4h4 hours ago
UConn would've had a better shot in #Big12Expansion if ESPN wasn't working against them. Huskies are too valuable to ESPN at an AAC discount

Colt Lester‏@ColtLester45
@C_Austin_Cox Mem/Cincy good for @Big12Conference? Check out player hometowns of each conference... #EnemyTerritory

C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox · 2h2 hours ago
Great example of how #Cincinnati opens the door to B1G country and #Memphis opens it to #SEC country for the Big 12.

 

[CallMeBruce]

We offer 10 men's sports (basketball, baseball, football, soccer, hockey, track/field, swimming/diving, golf, tennis, and cross country) while offereing 12 women's sports (basketball, softball, volleyball, soccer, hockey, swimming/diving, track/field, tennis, cross country, rowing, field hockey, and lacrosse). The Big 12 doesn't offer men's soccer, men's or women's ice hockey, or women's field hockey. The first and the last could go to the Big East, while hockey stays where it is. However, I do believe we should get closer to the NCAA minimum number of sports to save costs so I believe (keeping Title IX considerations) that we should can men's golf, men's and women's tennis, and men's and women's cross country.

Still banging this drum, huh?

 

[King Husky]

Great example of how #Cincinnati opens the door to B1G country and #Memphis opens it to #SEC country for the Big 12.

...Because adding a school in the dead middle of 5 superior SEC schools is really going to tap into that recruiting territory.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

As a university president, how do you vote to invite Memphis?

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Ken Broo ‏@kenbroo · 8h8 hours ago  Alaska, USA
Some Big 12 expansion talk on the way with our man in Texas, Ben Kercheval from CBS Sports - News, Live Scores, Schedules, Fantasy Games, Video and more. on @700wlw

Ken Broo ‏@kenbroo · 7h7 hours ago  Alaska, USA
Ben Kercheval from CBS Sports - News, Live Scores, Schedules, Fantasy Games, Video and more. just told me on @700wlw he thinks Cincinnati and Memphis will be B12 expansion choices.

C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox · 4h4 hours ago
UConn would've had a better shot in #Big12Expansion if ESPN wasn't working against them. Huskies are too valuable to ESPN at an AAC discount

Colt Lester‏@ColtLester45
@C_Austin_Cox Mem/Cincy good for @Big12Conference? Check out player hometowns of each conference... #EnemyTerritory

C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox · 2h2 hours ago
Great example of how #Cincinnati opens the door to B1G country and #Memphis opens it to #SEC country for the Big 12.

They are also slacking in hot beds like NJ and PA. Who could help with that?

 

[Jimdish255]

We offer 10 men's sports (basketball, baseball, football, soccer, hockey, track/field, swimming/diving, golf, tennis, and cross country) while offereing 12 women's sports (basketball, softball, volleyball, soccer, hockey, swimming/diving, track/field, tennis, cross country, rowing, field hockey, and lacrosse). The Big 12 doesn't offer men's soccer, men's or women's ice hockey, or women's field hockey. The first and the last could go to the Big East, while hockey stays where it is. However, I do believe we should get closer to the NCAA minimum number of sports to save costs so I believe (keeping Title IX considerations) that we should can men's golf, men's and women's tennis, and men's and women's cross country.

If you drop cross country (and the logic of that completely escapes me) you also need to drop indoor and outdoor track. Those sports have very few meets per year and I guess we could bulldoze our beautiful track facility as well.

 

[SubbaBub]

This recruiting angle is overvalued and dated. Unless you can guarantee playing in a given recruits home state every year then it's not really a selling point and with the unbalanced schedules due to the size of these conferences you can't do that.

Consistent success, coaches, NFL players, playing time, facilities, academics, and proximity to home all out point having an opponent close to home. A smart president wouldn't consider it at all.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

This recruiting angle is overvalued and dated. Unless you can guarantee playing in a given recruits home state every year then it's not really a selling point and with the unbalanced schedules due to the size of these conferences you can't do that.

Consistent success, coaches, NFL players, playing time, facilities, academics, and proximity to home all out point having an opponent close to home. A smart president wouldn't consider it at all.

I've never really gotten the fuss over it. Like Wisconsin couldn't get kids from NJ until they started playing Rutgers? They have cable in New Jersey BELIEVE ME.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I've never really gotten the fuss over it. Like Wisconsin couldn't get kids from NJ until they started playing Rutgers? They have cable in New Jersey BELIEVE ME.

Totally overrated. There is something I think matters somewhat, and that is dominating a region. The SEC does, B1G does and Pac does. The Big 12 once did, and now doesn't. The ACC does in only 3 states, which is not enough. The Big East once did in basketball.

 

[Confident Carl]

Oh rightttt Cincy had that one guy 50 years ago. Kinda like what people will say about Cuse in 40 years

Not that I am defending Cincinnati but another great player comes to mind, Jerry Lucas.

NBA.com: Jerry Lucas Bio

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Not that I am defending Cincinnati but another great player comes to mind, Jerry Lucas.

NBA.com: Jerry Lucas Bio

He played college hoops at OSU.

Fantastic player though.

 

[Confident Carl]

Not that I am defending Cincinnati but another great player comes to mind, Jerry Lucas.

NBA.com: Jerry Lucas Bio

You are correct, OSU. Lucas played professionally for the Cincinnati Royals. Thanks

 

[Santini35]

We offer 10 men's sports (basketball, baseball, football, soccer, hockey, track/field, swimming/diving, golf, tennis, and cross country) while offereing 12 women's sports (basketball, softball, volleyball, soccer, hockey, swimming/diving, track/field, tennis, cross country, rowing, field hockey, and lacrosse). The Big 12 doesn't offer men's soccer, men's or women's ice hockey, or women's field hockey. The first and the last could go to the Big East, while hockey stays where it is. However, I do believe we should get closer to the NCAA minimum number of sports to save costs so I believe (keeping Title IX considerations) that we should can men's golf, men's and women's tennis, and men's and women's cross country.

Womens field hockey is already in the Big East

 

[Waquoit]

He played college hoops at OSU.

Fantastic player though.

He was also a best selling author but I forget the title.

 

[sportsart]

He was also a best selling author but I forget the title.

"The College I Went To for Dummies" ?

 

[noeynox]

As a university president, how do you vote to invite Memphis?

The ribs are SLAMMING!!!

 

[History Geek]

He was also a best selling author but I forget the title.

Don't know if you meant to make a funny, but its called "The Memory Book", co-authored with Harry Lorayne. It was first published in 1974 and is a classic. He and Lorayne they introduced the power of using mnemonics and other elaborative rehearsal techniques to encode and recall large amounts of information relatively quickly.

 

[huskymedic]

Ken Broo ‏@kenbroo · 8h8 hours ago  Alaska, USA
Colt Lester‏@ColtLester45
@C_Austin_Cox Mem/Cincy good for @Big12Conference? Check out player hometowns of each conference... #EnemyTerritory

C. Austin Cox ‏@C_Austin_Cox · 2h2 hours ago
Great example of how #Cincinnati opens the door to B1G country and #Memphis opens it to #SEC country for the Big 12.

This recruiting angle is overvalued and dated. Unless you can guarantee playing in a given recruits home state every year then it's not really a selling point and with the unbalanced schedules due to the size of these conferences you can't do that.

Consistent success, coaches, NFL players, playing time, facilities, academics, and proximity to home all out point having an opponent close to home. A smart president wouldn't consider it at all.

Hell, there is so many threads going I cant remember which thread I dropped this in earlier in the week: Confidential: Big 12 coaches unload on expansion recruiting myth But let Cincy, UCF/USF and UM (especially) keep trumpeting it as a check mark on their refrigerator door spreadsheets.

 

[shizzle787]

If you drop cross country (and the logic of that completely escapes me) you also need to drop indoor and outdoor track. Those sports have very few meets per year and I guess we could bulldoze our beautiful track facility as well.

No, you don't need to drop track and field if you drop cross country. So you don't need to bulldoze the track facility. The logic is thus: we need to cut costs and can do so by getting to the NCAA minimum of 7 men's sports. Which sports stay? Basketball, baseball, football, soccer and hockey are the major sports in the US; they need to stay. That leaves two spots open: track and field and swimming and diving, which are the major Olympic sports not named above. Cross country is only partially an Olympic event (part of the pentathlon), golf won't be for much longer, and tennis something that you can go to local clubs for.

 

[CallMeBruce]

No, you don't need to drop track and field if you drop cross country. So you don't need to bulldoze the track facility. The logic is thus: we need to cut costs and can do so by getting to the NCAA minimum of 7 men's sports. Which sports stay? Basketball, baseball, football, soccer and hockey are the major sports in the US; they need to stay. That leaves two spots open: track and field and swimming and diving, which are the major Olympic sports not named above. Cross country is only partially an Olympic event (part of the pentathlon), golf won't be for much longer, and tennis something that you can go to local clubs for.

You should start a new thread about this.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Not that I am defending Cincinnati but another great player comes to mind, Jerry Lucas.

NBA.com: Jerry Lucas Bio

He played college hoops at OSU.

Fantastic player though.

How strong of a presence does Cincy have in Ohio?

When you think of great basketball players from Cincinnati, you end up listing OSU players.

 

[don356]

He played college hoops at OSU.

Fantastic player though.

Jerry Lucas's Osu team lost to an underdog Cincy team for the Ncaa championship in i think 61 which is still a sore point for the old guard Osu fans. Oscar Robertson did not play on those Cincy national championship teams.

It's interesting as Cincy's other national player of the year was Kenyon Martin who came from of all recruiting venues................Texas. Right in the heart of Orange country.