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HuskyHawk said:
But what the hell does he mean by this: "expansion can be simple and quick if it sticks to one issue and one school at the start" Whats the one issue and one school?
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sportsart said:
That all goes back to, why would the Big 12 take UConn for FB and leave their best assets behind?
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Technically, they're not leaving our best assets behind if it includes multiple yearly games with the Big 12 for both the men's and women's basketball teams as part of the deal. If it weren't for the distance, UConn would be the top candidate, so removing a large part of the biggest obstacle (transportation costs of non-revenue sports) to joining may actually help UConn Football get to a better league.
 
HuskyHawk said:
But what the hell does he mean by this: "expansion can be simple and quick if it sticks to one issue and one school at the start" Whats the one issue and one school?
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That's a different article and more spitballing that all the extracurricular stuff aside - based on a pure football pedigree it should be BYU from what I gather. Two separate things.
 
Penfield said:
Well if multiple people are hearing it I'm more inclined to believe it. I just can't decide if I should take Blauds seriously or not. He seems to have some contacts but his theories make no sense
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Just to clarify - when I said "I know a guy"... it's a guy who has access to the pay site.

Blaud is old school and his contacts are old school.
 
huskymedic said:
Just to clarify - when I said "I know a guy"... it's a guy who has access to the pay site.

Blaud is old school and his contacts are old school.
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Haha thats what I thought you meant... then you started talking about "what you have been told"
 
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upstater said:
OK, so going off what Mark is saying, why not, Football and Bball to the B12, and all other sports to the Big East?

Would the BE have anything against this?

Easy trips for St. John's, Seton Hall, PC, Georgetown, Villanova, and maybe Xavier.
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I don't think the Big East will be interested in half-members.

With our basketball, we're a no-brainer add. Without it, I think they'd take a pass.
 
If we really did go FB only we have to realize that its basically an 8 year marriage before this league falls apart. Im fine with that though.
 
amory said:
I don't think the Big East will be interested in half-members.

With our basketball, we're a no-brainer add. Without it, I think they'd take a pass.
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They are fine with us for field hockey only right now.
 
Hoophound said:
Warde was good, but most of his work was internal. Benedict is doing very visible work. He is a marketing guy and a presentation guy. He is doing a bunch of stuff many of us would have done if AD. I presumed many of these things weren't allowed. I'm amazed that he is so easily manipulating things that result in dollars to the school, such as concession prices and advertising spots at football games. I had the impression that suggesting those things would be shot down immediately, apparently that isn't so or Benedict is very persuasive.
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You got to compare the costs with the costs of not getting into a top conference.
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
Technically, they're not leaving our best assets behind if it includes multiple yearly games with the Big 12 for both the men's and women's basketball teams as part of the deal. If it weren't for the distance, UConn would be the top candidate, so removing a large part of the biggest obstacle (transportation costs of non-revenue sports) to joining may actually help UConn Football get to a better league.
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First off, if you take UConn for FB you want ALL the BB games. Doesn't make sense to only take several.

Second, I don't buy this travel crap. UConn has to travel to 9-10 far away locations and the Big 12 teams has just one. I don't know how Olympic sports work but aren't most of them once a year, maybe twice, so you are looking at, at worse 1 long travel every year or every other year.
 
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amory said:
I don't think the Big East will be interested in half-members.

With our basketball, we're a no-brainer add. Without it, I think they'd take a pass.
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Eh. We're playing women's field hockey in the league now. If we don't take out money and pay our fair share of the overhead for non-revenue sports, I am not sure that anyone would care one way or the other. Once you get past football and hoops, college athletics ceases to be a business and becomes more of a part of a university it seems. See, e.g., BC having no problem with us being in Hockey East (despite their fake position that they hate us for moral reasons relating to the lawsuit).
 
When Blauds is hypothesizing and forming his own conclusions, he's usually out in right field. However, when he's stating information he got from sources, he should be taken seriously. He's got legitimate connections in Northeast athletic departments, so he's way above the level of a Twitter "insider" in that regard.
 
Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel · 5h5 hours ago
And last but not least, my Top 10 Group of 5 teams. Beware of Appalachian State.

Ranking the 10 best Group of 5 teams in college football

9
Connecticut
The defensively stout Huskies improved from 2-10 to 6-7 last season and should take another step forward thanks to RB Arkeel Newsome.

Ranking the 10 best Group of 5 teams in college football
 
I think Blauds was saying Football to B12 with a limited BBall scheduling arrangement with B12. That would leave us in the Big East for BBall, just with a B12 scheduling arrangement for a certain number of games each year.
 
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jostar1 said:
Brian DavisVerified account ‏@BDavisAAS 10h10 hours ago
One thing to remember Re: Big 12 expansion. TV consultants got paid to tell 10 presidents something positive. Doesn't mean it was realistic.

Brian DavisVerified account
@BDavisAAS
Covers the Texas Longhorns for the Austin American-Statesman.
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A ridiculous argument. The consultants don't get paid to gloss over and fudge the facts about potential candidates. They get paid to tell the Big 12 what the best route is for the Big 12 as it exists currently. If that route is stay at 10, that's what they say. If it's 12, 14, 16, 234282340, they say that.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
A ridiculous argument. The consultants don't get paid to gloss over and fudge the facts about potential candidates. They get paid to tell the Big 12 what the best route is for the Big 12 as it exists currently. If that route is stay at 10, that's what they say. If it's 12, 14, 16, 234282340, they say that.
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Already posted a reply saying something similar.

This guy has obviously never been in the business world a day in his life.
 
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Derek Linn™ @Jsjide56@KellisRobinett
why is no one talking about Ucon possibly getting in the big 12. Really good basketball program. Football not good enough?
12:46 PM - 18 Aug 2016


Location, more than anything.

Yeah, UConn is kind of close to West Virginia, which would give the Mountaineers a travel partner. Still, Storrs isn’t exactly easy to get to.

And once you get there, the Huskies don’t seem to have as much to offer as other expansion candidates. They are fantastic at basketball, which would be a plus. But they don’t have the best football tradition. Also, what kind of television market would they bring with them? The state of Connecticut? Meh. I doubt they can deliver big ratings in New York or Boston, as some have suggested. ESPN is nearby. Does that help their chances?

This isn’t to knock UConn. It is a good school with a good athletic department that can make a conference stronger. But the same can be said about Houston, BYU, Memphis, Cincinnati and seemingly everyone else in the mix. And those schools are all better geographical fits than UConn.


Read more here: Ask Kellis: Jesse Ertz, Dalton Risner, Denzel Goolsby, Big 12 expansion and Bill Snyder’s shoes

Kellis Robinett
@KellisRobinett
K-State beat writer for the Wichita Eagle/Kansas City Star

*This is another guy who needs some "educating" on UConn.
 
amory said:
I don't think the Big East will be interested in half-members.

With our basketball, we're a no-brainer add. Without it, I think they'd take a pass.
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They added our other sports already. Who knows?

Split the baby and offer them women's bball.
 
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this is unreal. where are all of these people crapping on Wake Forest, Purdue, etc. etc.

This media controlled P5 v. G5 debate has become absurd. In an age where "journalists" can say whatever they want, narratives don't bode well for us.
 
As if Manhattan, Kansas is easy to get to. Clearly it's not easy to get out of, as this person obviously hasn't.
 
MattMang23 said:
In non-revenue sports, they couldn't care less if it's UConn or Conn College.
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Universities (and colleges) like to be associated with peer institutions. You mentioned Conn College, their identity/brand is a small, elite New England liberal arts college. Hence their association with Amherst, Tufts, Bowdoin, Wesleyan etc. in the NESCAC - their association through sports (but also outside of sports) reinforces the sense of a larger community of students/profs/alums. Obviously, in DIII everything's non-revenue. For UConn, they have to compete against / associate with whoever's in their league. There is a little bit of non-sports overlap with Temple, maybe USF, Tulane as research universities. But associating with other flagships would be preferable. UConn as a football only in the B12 would be a unique situation, if they put non-revenue sports in the Big East. Again from a purely non-sports perspective, there might be some advantages to going back to associating with regional schools like PC, BC, Nova from a branding perspective, but the institutional overlap (faculty, alums) between those private catholic schools and a state flagship aren't as great.

tl; dr - whatever happens this year, UConn will still be thinking about how to angle for a spot in the ACC/Big Ten down the road, assuming there's a chance to tread water financially.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
It does seem strange that this would be the case.

The only thing I can think of is that it would not enacting the full pro rata clause and could land the Big 12 with:

1) 12 team football league which the simulations showed the highest probability of making the CFB Playoff.

2) Mitigates all the Olympic travel concerns.

3) TV pays the Big 12 a nice increase, but less than the full pro rata, so it keeps the Big 12 and the networks happy.

4) Nothing makes sense anymore.
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There are no meaningful Olympic travel concerns.

Most teams will travel out of region once. Several Olympic sports teams will not need to travel out of region, because they won't be joining the Big XII. The remainder ALREADY travel regularly out of region due to current affiliation or seasonal weather concerns.
 
jostar1 said:
Brian DavisVerified account ‏@BDavisAAS 10h10 hours ago
One thing to remember Re: Big 12 expansion. TV consultants got paid to tell 10 presidents something positive. Doesn't mean it was realistic.

Brian DavisVerified account
@BDavisAAS
Covers the Texas Longhorns for the Austin American-Statesman.
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FIFH
"One thing to remember Re: Big 12 expansion. TV consultants got paid to tell 10 presidents something positive. Doesn't mean it will align to the ignorant biases of those of us in football country."
 
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