Kevin Ollie On Enosch Wolf’s Future, Tyler Olander’s Arrest

[upstater]

It matters what she reported to the police. Remember, the girl in the Miles case also said the charges were overblown. If they want to maintain consistency, then this is a lot more serious than people think.

The main difference in the case is that Miles immediately violated a restraining order by placing a phone call to the girl. That in itself presented a huge problem for the university. And maybe that act--as limited as it was--is the thing that got him tossed.

I should think that the police report alone, however, will be treated seriously by the conduct court.

 

[upstater]

Wolf and her are still together. So if she's still with him after these 'reports' of him hitting her, she's either a moron or he didn't really hit her.

This is too much for me. You don't know what happened. To put in such stark either/or terms ignores reality.

 

[UChusky916]

This is too much for me. You don't know what happened. To put in such stark either/or terms ignores reality.

I never said I know what happened.

I'm just trying to highlight the fact that the whole situation is skeptical because the 'report' that he hit her doesn't match up to how Wolf and his GF are behaving now, the police report, OR the charges filed against Wolf.

 

[CL82]

It matters what she reported to the police. Remember, the girl in the Miles case also said the charges were overblown. If they want to maintain consistency, then this is a lot more serious than people think.

The main difference in the case is that Miles immediately violated a restraining order by placing a phone call to the girl. That in itself presented a huge problem for the university. And maybe that act--as limited as it was--is the thing that got him tossed.

I should think that the police report alone, however, will be treated seriously by the conduct court.

They will take it seriously, but their review will include 'testimony' from the girl which I suspect will be a mitigating factor.

 

[nomar]

I never said I know what happened.

I'm just trying to highlight the fact that the whole situation is skeptical because the 'report' that he hit her doesn't match up to how Wolf and his GF are behaving now, the police report, OR the charges filed against Wolf.

Right, and the fact that Rihanna got back together with Chris Brown means he didn't really hit her. Yes, it "matches up" fine -- do you know how many women run back to men that beat the crap out of them? It's 2013 -- I can't believe how willfully blind people remain.

All that said, you are right that we don't know the severity of what he did. He's not getting away with anything. He's under the microscope. He's suspended. He's going to counseling. If the administration allows him back on the team, then I'm OK with it. I'm not OK with domestic violence, but like anything else short of murder or rape, once you "do your time" (whatever that may entail), you deserve a second chance. I'm also OK if the administration's investigation results in a conclusion that he beat her (as opposed to jostled or lightly slapped her) and they decide not to reinstate him.

 

[CTFIRERETIRED]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/480074-mysterious-case-of-lawrence-phillips

OK, all of you, does this ring any bells? No, I will not try to compare Enosch with Lawrence, but for those of you that want to just let this incident go away, maybe you should reread this.

 

[freescooter]

I really htink this is put up or shut up time for Ollie. Never mind what the AD or the court or anyone else says. He wants to set a standard for his tenure he needs to tell Wolf "Good luck in your future, butr it will not involve playing basketball for the University of Connecticut ever again." Don't hide behind the AD or some other university board. Take a friggin' stand and show some guts. Drives me nuts when coaches do this. If you don't think what he did merits dismissal from the basketball team, stand up and say it and take any heat. If you do, have the guts to say so and send him packing and have the courage to take any heat that comes from that. But Ollie, like Boeheim regularly does, will pretend that it isn't even his decision. "Oh, the AD said he could come back. So he's back." Hey, at least Pasqualoni took responsibility when McCombs got arrested. You can disagree with his decision, and I did, but at least he had the guts to make it and not hide behind someone else's skirts. I respect him for that.

 

[upstater]

I never said I know what happened.

I'm just trying to highlight the fact that the whole situation is skeptical because the 'report' that he hit her doesn't match up to how Wolf and his GF are behaving now, the police report, OR the charges filed against Wolf.

That's what I'm referring to. I've known professional women who have been beaten and stay. You said she's an idiot for staying if he beat her.

 

[CL82]

I really htink this is put up or shut up time for Ollie. Never mind what the AD or the court or anyone else says. He wants to set a standard for his tenure he needs to tell Wolf "Good luck in your future, butr it will not involve playing basketball for the University of Connecticut ever again." Don't hide behind the AD or some other university board. Take a friggin' stand and show some guts. Drives me nuts when coaches do this. If you don't think what he did merits dismissal from the basketball team, stand up and say it and take any heat. If you do, have the guts to say so and send him packing and have the courage to take any heat that comes from that. But Ollie, like Boeheim regularly does, will pretend that it isn't even his decision. "Oh, the AD said he could come back. So he's back." Hey, at least Pasqualoni took responsibility when McCombs got arrested. You can disagree with his decision, and I did, but at least he had the guts to make it and not hide behind someone else's skirts. I respect him for that.

I don't think that Ollie will hide behind anyone but he will undoubted take into account how the courts and the university views the issue. I agree, though, that at the end of the day it is his call.

 

[Kitaman]

I really htink this is put up or shut up time for Ollie. Never mind what the AD or the court or anyone else says. He wants to set a standard for his tenure he needs to tell Wolf "Good luck in your future, butr it will not involve playing basketball for the University of Connecticut ever again." Don't hide behind the AD or some other university board. Take a friggin' stand and show some guts. Drives me nuts when coaches do this. If you don't think what he did merits dismissal from the basketball team, stand up and say it and take any heat. If you do, have the guts to say so and send him packing and have the courage to take any heat that comes from that. But Ollie, like Boeheim regularly does, will pretend that it isn't even his decision. "Oh, the AD said he could come back. So he's back." Hey, at least Pasqualoni took responsibility when McCombs got arrested. You can disagree with his decision, and I did, but at least he had the guts to make it and not hide behind someone else's skirts. I respect him for that.

You sound like sean hannity. Ollie goes by a different moral code, and spiritual one at that. Whatever decision he makes will be the best one for the university and wolf (even if it includes teaching him a lesson by letting him go or keeping him). I doubt the decision will be for his personal gain. His convictions are stronger that public (i.e. fan) opinion. Always know that Ollie doesn't 'need' to coach the University, the University needs him to coach. He's set for life and with a future basketball or not.

You are underestimating our Coach, he's unlike any other. Try and get 10 toes in, one day.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

Everytime I think you've been replaced as the village idiot you hit one out of the park. .

Yes, I am the one saying it's true - not the police who have it in thejr report.

Is that public knowledge? Can you provide a link?

 

[mauconnfan]

I really htink this is put up or shut up time for Ollie. Never mind what the AD or the court or anyone else says. He wants to set a standard for his tenure he needs to tell Wolf "Good luck in your future, butr it will not involve playing basketball for the University of Connecticut ever again." Don't hide behind the AD or some other university board. Take a friggin' stand and show some guts. Drives me nuts when coaches do this. If you don't think what he did merits dismissal from the basketball team, stand up and say it and take any heat. If you do, have the guts to say so and send him packing and have the courage to take any heat that comes from that. But Ollie, like Boeheim regularly does, will pretend that it isn't even his decision. "Oh, the AD said he could come back. So he's back." Hey, at least Pasqualoni took responsibility when McCombs got arrested. You can disagree with his decision, and I did, but at least he had the guts to make it and not hide behind someone else's skirts. I respect him for that.

Funny free, always something!!! Can't let it go........oh I think we get it, you're not Kevin Ollie fan.......how about no one knows the whole story but EW, the girlfriend and now KO?Is it even remotely possible he knows something you don't since he's his coach?? Ridiculous!

 

[CAHUSKY]

Is that public knowledge? Can you provide a link?

Is this what you were looking for?
http://www.courant.com/media/acrobat/2013-02/321885100-11130734.pdf

 

[freescooter]

I don't think that Ollie will hide behind anyone but he will undoubted take into account how the courts and the university views the issue. I agree, though, that at the end of the day it is his call.

The problem is he is already doing that. He could have said simply and straightforwardly "If Wolf is cleared I'm happy to have him back." He could have said, "I don't care if Wolf is cleared by President Herbst herself, he is never playing for my team again." He could even have said, "I'll fight to get him re-instated" He did none of those. He essentially hid behind Manuel and the University. He'll let them take the heat if Wolf has to go. He'll use them as cover if he comes back. That isn't taking the stairs. That is letting someone else carry you up. Kevin Boeheim.

 

[freescooter]

Funny free, always something!!! Can't let it go........oh I think we get it, you're not Kevin Ollie fan.......how about no one knows the whole story but EW, the girlfriend and now KO?Is it even remotely possible he knows something you don't since he's his coach?? Ridiculous!

Then stand up like a man and say "I will take Wolf back if the University approves it and I'll fight for it because I think this was a minor matter." Don't waffle. Or even just "I will take Wolf back if he gets clearance from the appropriate University officials." If there is heat from fans, womens groups, the press, take it. That is what Pasqualoni did. I think his decision was wrong but he didn't hide behind the massive behind of Warde Manuel. He cowboyed up. Ollie should do the same.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

Is this what you were looking for?
http://www.courant.com/media/acrobat/2013-02/321885100-11130734.pdf

Yes, thank you.

Tough situation. On one hand, I don't believe in permanently writing off human beings and never giving them second chances in life. On the other hand, I don't think athletes should be allowed to do things like get away with domestic abuse simply because they're D1 athletes.

In conclusion, I'm glad it's not my decision.

 

[CAHUSKY]

Then stand up like a man and say "I will take Wolf back if the University approves it and I'll fight for it because I think this was a minor matter." Don't waffle. Or even just "I will take Wolf back if he gets clearance from the appropriate University officials." If there is heat from fans, womens groups, the press, take it. That is what Pasqualoni did. I think his decision was wrong but he didn't hide behind the massive behind of Warde Manuel. He cowboyed up. Ollie should do the same.

Or, he could do what any sensible person would do in this situation and shut the duck up and let the legal system play itself out and let the university makes its determination. This is clearly a university decision first and an athletic decision second. For Ollie to say anything would be a slap in the face of Herbst and anyone else involved in the review process. I often wonder if posters have ever worked in a corporate environment where restraint and common sense are mandated. Some posters think a professional work environment works like a message board where you just blurt stuff out and make bold pronouncements without regard for offending your superiors. That ain't how professional life works.

 

[MattMang23]

The Courant publishes a lot of typos/misspellings.

Wolf sounds like he was in pretty deep. When the AD is monitoring you....

Warde is monitoring this situation, too? Doesn't he have enough to monitor already?

 

[whaler11]

Is that public knowledge? Can you provide a link?

Start with the link that this thread is based on.

 

[freescooter]

Or, he could do what any sensible person would do in this situation and shut the duck up and let the legal system play itself out and let the university makes its determination. This is clearly a university decision first and an athletic decision second. For Ollie to say anything would be a slap in the face of Herbst and anyone else involved in the review process. I often wonder if posters have ever worked in a corporate environment where restraint and common sense are mandated. Some posters think a professional work environment works like a message board where you just blurt stuff out and make bold pronouncements without regard for offending your superiors. That ain't how professional life works.

You don't get my point clearly. He can decide who is on his basketball team regardless of what the courts or the AD do. He could say "Wolf, I don't want a guy like you on my team and I don't care what the AD says or what the court says. You're dealing with your anger issues and that's great for you, but you won't play for UConn any more." He could say, "Wolf you are welcome back just as long as you finish your court ordered stuff and the AD approves." Here's what will happen though. If the AD/University approves, he will take Wolf back. If people complain, and some womens groups, for example, absolutely will, as will some others, he will hide behind Warde's ample butt and use that as his excuse. And he will pretend that it was out of his hands. It misses the point, though. Ollie can make this decision and he can make it now. He won't though. In fact, it happens all the time in the "real world." People make decisions and live with the consequences. they don't hide behind someone else's skirts. Don't take the escalator, let someone else carry you. that way if there is a problem you can blame them.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

You don't get my point clearly. He can decide who is on his basketball team regardless of what the courts or the AD do. He could say "Wolf, I don't want a guy like you on my team and I don't care what the AD says or what the court says. You're dealing with your anger issues and that's great for you, but you won't play for UConn any more." He could say, "Wolf you are welcome back just as long as you finish your court ordered stuff and the AD approves." Here's what will happen though. If the AD/University approves, he will take Wolf back. If people complain, and some womens groups, for example, absolutely will, as will some others, he will hide behind Warde's ample butt and use that as his excuse. And he will pretend that it was out of his hands. It misses the point, though. Ollie can make this decision and he can make it now. He won't though. In fact, it happens all the time in the "real world." People make decisions and live with the consequences. they don't hide behind someone else's skirts. Don't take the escalator, let someone else carry you. that way if there is a problem you can blame them.

What the *** is your deal with Ollie? I'm genuinely curious. I've taken the liberty to speculate as to the motivation for your searing disdain for the players, particularly the ones from less advantaged backgrounds, but I genuinely can't figure out what it is you dislike so intensely about Ollie. You are literally the first person I've ever heard attack his character. What's the back story here?

 

[RS9999X]

Dom Amore does this crap all the time. His articles are usually no more than 4 sentences long, and he never proof reads them.

Amore cuts and pastes his articles from The Boneyard and Twitter......

 

[mauconnfan]

What the *** is your deal with Ollie? I'm genuinely curious. I've taken the liberty to speculate as to the motivation for your searing disdain for the players, particularly the ones from less advantaged backgrounds, but I genuinely can't figure out what it is you dislike so intensely about Ollie. You are literally the first person I've ever heard attack his character. What's the back story here?

Inquiring minds need to know........

 

[Chief00]

Wolf seems to be well liked around campus and his main problem seems to be too much beer on occasion. Tyler on the other hand is remarkable for making a poor and obnoxious impression. I rather keep Wolf and perhaps KO would too but don't think it will play out this way.

 

[CL82]

The problem is he is already doing that. He could have said simply and straightforwardly "If Wolf is cleared I'm happy to have him back." He could have said, "I don't care if Wolf is cleared by President Herbst herself, he is never playing for my team again." He could even have said, "I'll fight to get him re-instated" He did none of those. He essentially hid behind Manuel and the University. He'll let them take the heat if Wolf has to go. He'll use them as cover if he comes back. That isn't taking the stairs. That is letting someone else carry you up. Kevin Boeheim.

Disagree. To everything there is a season....

Let the court play out, let the university sanctions play out and then make the team decision. Making grand sounding pronouncements prior to having all the facts is fine on a message board but a bad call if you are in an actual position of responsibility.