Just some thoughts.

[EricSD]

I'm not sure I get all the angst about losing Wolf for the year. Last season he provided spot minutes off the bench to start the year behind Olander and Daniels. It wasn't till the Washington game in late December where he played 18 minutes and nabbed 9 rebounds that people started to really take notice of him. My point is, he grew into his role as the season progressed. Once he was suspended, after the Seton Hall game mid February, suddenly Nolan began to get his minutes. We really had no choice.

Wolf played in 22 games averaging just over 13 MPG, 3.4 PPG, and yes, 3.4 RPG. Nolan averaged 10.8 MPG, 1.4 PPG and 2.1 RPG. He played in 23 games. Certainly not numbers as strong as Wolf's, but it's not like Wolf was averaging 20 MPG, 6 PPG, and 8 RPG. I see no reason why Nolan, Facey, and Brimah can't fill that role.

Would it be better if Wolf was there? Of course. Would we suddenly have been a NC contender if he were there? No. IMHO I see us as a legit top 10 team this year. I don't think we are a NC contender, but never say never, right? I do think we can make a real push at the final 4 given our strength and depth at the 1-4 positions.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

One thing is certain. If Wolf doesn't come back, our title chances are GONE. If you think Facey, a 6'7" 190lb freshman can take us to Dallas then you are all delusional. Take away Oriakhi from the 2011 team and we go 15-15. Same situation, but this year's team will win a little more.

Might be time to log off from this thread.

 

[upstater]

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Wow, tough rule.
From what I've seen a good portion of the guys on the board have zero chance of having sex with anyone who is sober.

It's a tpugh rule.
Now, no one who has sex with someone drunk will be thrown out on that basis.
But if you have sex with someone drunk and that person accuses you of assault, the first questioned asked is, "Was he/she drunk?" If your answer is "yes" then the next question is, "Did you have sex?" If your answer is "yes" then that's all there is to it.

 

[upstater]

Your confusing things. The school has their own set of standards apart from the legal system whether you, I or the fence post like that its a fact.

Upstater, I'm thinking you might be able to shed light on the university "due process".

I can speak from experience from running afoul of a schools rules for their students and their student athletes. I didn't lose and schollie, but I provided the school a boat load of free labor because that what a disciplinary hearing decided. That "jury" was comprised of ainistrators, students and professors. We got into a dust up in a bar, no legal ramifications, but there sure as hell were university ramifications.

There are university ramifications. There are faculty/student boards. The decision making process swings in a variety of ways. Generally, they try to avoid he said/she said situations. This is why reports of abuse are often swept under the rug. On the other hand, alcohol violations (where students are caught red handed) are sometimes severe.

 

[mauconnfan]

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Wow, tough rule.
From what I've seen a good portion of the guys on the board have zero chance of having sex with anyone who is sober.

......or with anyone but themselves!! That's easier.....lol

 

[champs99and04]

Kids make bad choices all the time. Wolf paid for his and the charges were dropped. The school took away his schollie.

You don't seem to understand the severity of Wolf's actions. Wolf is seven feet tall. The women he put his hands on was probably at least twelve to eighteen inches shorter than him, and a hundred pounds lighter. I don't care who or what his girlfriend was doing when Wolf entered the room - there is no situation that warrants a man, much less one that big, resorting to physical violence to settle a dispute. There is no place for that behavior in society, much less at a public university that holds itself to a much higher standard. It boggles my mind that people symphaize with Wolf so much, and are now even going to the extent that they believe he is some how irreplaceable on the court next season (which is another subject for another day). The determined punishment is the perfect medium - whoever made the decision allowed a window for redemption, yet also punished him severely enough that the consequences of his selfish actions are sure to leave a mark.

There is a distinct difference between a mistake and an act of violence that infers a deep-rooted behavioral problem. A mistake is generally a split-second lapse of judgement. If your initial reaction upon settling a situation like that is to resort to violence, your instincts as a man need some re-calibration. Chalking it up to a mistake would be a gross mis-representation of what occured.

Tyler Olander made a mistake. Enosch Wolf had a problem. I'm glad some recognize the difference.

 

[2north]

Wow new to the board having moved out west and not really the thread I was expecting nor the greatest choice for my first post but the OP was so ridiculous so..

"And if Wolf leaves, our chances at a title (even a Final 4) are gone."

Since when did Wolf become the second coming of Dirk Nowitzski? This team is built around one of if not the best backcourts in the country living and dying by Shabazz/Boat/Calhoun running the floor draining 3's. Sure the front court is light, but all they need is to be serviceable. A combo improved Nolan, an emerging pro prospect in Daniels, highly rated freshman Facey and whoever else eats up minutes out of Tolksdorf, Giffey, et al should be serviceable enough. I mean they got outrebounded in just about every game and were still a sweet 16 caliber team last year. Wolf would certainly help but I doubt anyone (that is anyone sane) will be saying "if only we had Wolf" come March.

.."a scumbag move by someone who wants to clean up his public perception.."

I must have missed a lot since Ollie's playing/asst. coaching days that he needs to clean up his public perception.

 

[bfair]

Anything KO does to continue to improve our "public" image (while somewhat unfair and uniformed yet somewhat justified to an extent) needs to be done. If we can clean it up and continue to recruit quality players, both on and off the court - should be commended. I don't want to lose him but that post was a bit much.. Also is he worth someone from upstate NY telling me, "Now you have a player who abuses women too...." like the list at another former BE school.... not worth it.

 

[Husky1972]

You don't seem to understand the severity of Wolf's actions. Wolf is seven feet tall. The women he put his hands on was probably at least twelve to eighteen inches shorter than him, and a hundred pounds lighter. I don't care who or what his girlfriend was doing when Wolf entered the room - there is no situation that warrants a man, much less one that big, resorting to physical violence to settle a dispute. There is no place for that behavior in society, much less at a public university that holds itself to a much higher standard. It boggles my mind that people symphaize with Wolf so much, and are now even going to the extent that they believe he is some how irreplaceable on the court next season (which is another subject for another day). The determined punishment is the perfect medium - whoever made the decision allowed a window for redemption, yet also punished him severely enough that the consequences of his selfish actions are sure to leave a mark.

There is a distinct difference between a mistake and an act of violence that infers a deep-rooted behavioral problem. A mistake is generally a split-second lapse of judgement. If your initial reaction upon settling a situation like that is to resort to violence, your instincts as a man need some re-calibration. Chalking it up to a mistake would be a gross mis-representation of what occured.

Tyler Olander made a mistake. Enosch Wolf had a problem. I'm glad some recognize the difference.

Done driving across country and catching up on things, so just reading this board from start to finish. So many opinions and statements that beg for a response as I read all the posts, but this one pretty much sums it up for me.

 

[Kitaman]

Can't have a university where a student (male or female) feels unsafe on campus. Safety and education are equal partners, particularly where parents entrust their children. Wolf unfortunately made a student feel unsafe through physical and verbal actions.

The student and university forgave him, and he can still be on the team, get his degree, live on campus, eat in the cafeteria, and enjoy college life if he wants. The caveat of having to pay for it now is his fault and no one else (not Ollie's, the administration, athletic department, Kromah's, the female student, etc...).

We just lost a HOF coach and did pretty good. Wolf is not bigger than UConn. If he does return we will do pretty good. If he doesn't return we will do pretty good as well. People act like they saw an indispensable superstar, all American on the court last year. The sky is not falling................

We are UConn dammit!!

 

[uconnbill]

What Wolf did was criminal and against the student code of conduct. He could have been expelled for his actions but was given another chance.

I have no issue with what happened to his scholarship but in the same breath I hope he comes back to get his degree.

 

[Taco]

I'd be real curious to know if all those people who think Wolf got what he deserved would think the same if it was a starter in the same situation, or if they left the scholly unused. I don't personally mind the punishment (maybe a slight bit harsh, but you can't half pull it), but for everyone applauding it, I feel it's only b/c we got a better player out of it. JMO

 

[upstater]

I'd be real curious to know if all those people who think Wolf got what he deserved would think the same if it was a starter in the same situation, or if they left the scholly unused. I don't personally mind the punishment (maybe a slight bit harsh, but you can't half pull it), but for everyone applauding it, I feel it's only b/c we got a better player out of it. JMO

A better player? I'm not a big supporter of Wolf but it seems to me we have 4 guards, 3 of which are certainly better... whereas Wolf plays a position where UConn sorely needs big bodies.

UConn has lost better players than Wolf to suspensions and such for lesser things.

 

[ctchamps]

I'd be real curious to know if all those people who think Wolf got what he deserved would think the same if it was a starter in the same situation, or if they left the scholly unused. I don't personally mind the punishment (maybe a slight bit harsh, but you can't half pull it), but for everyone applauding it, I feel it's only b/c we got a better player out of it. JMO

On paper Wolf would be more important to the team this coming season than Kromah. It would be his second season of getting meaningful minutes so I would expect improvement from him. Furthermore the guard position is more settled than the front court.

If this were SN and he had his scholarship revoked and unlikely to return I would cringe a lot more for the team but support the university. My guess is a lot more fans would complain than we're currently observing and there would be less support for the university. Double standards. Just a guess on my part. I get the impression that the op is more upset about UConn's chances of doing well than he is about EW's personal situation. But it isn't politically correct to appear so shallow so we include arguments to make us look less shallow. He'd have a lot more company if it were SN, RB, OC or DD imo.

 

[kcc1442]

I'd be real curious to know if all those people who think Wolf got what he deserved would think the same if it was a starter in the same situation, or if they left the scholly unused. I don't personally mind the punishment (maybe a slight bit harsh, but you can't half pull it), but for everyone applauding it, I feel it's only b/c we got a better player out of it. JMO

Count me as one who completely sides with the judgement of KO and staff or whoever made this decision and knew the specifics. And yes if it was Shabazz Napier, DeAndre Daniels, hell Kemba Walker I would side with their decision too.

You don't make exceptions for some but not others, you don't allow some to follow one set of rules and not the others, you don't compromise the integrity of the entire program and the future of the program for one bad apple. Would KO or whomever have done this if it was a star player? Well that's hopefully something we'll never have to know. But for now you must respect and believe that he didn't make this decision based upon skill level. Wolfe's scholarship was revoked because he violated some type of rule within his player contract leaving him expendable. It wasn't revoked for being completely innocent. Regardless of who the player is the staff has every right to yank a scholarship from anyone who isn't going to abide by the team rules and conduct themselves amicably.

So whats up next? Debating why Coach Calhoun pushed Wiggins out the door?

 

[Taco]

True, but the responses weren't the same... They were more like - this sucks. It was harsh, as I stated, but a regular student (on scholarship) would likely get theirs pulled too... I would think that harsh too... Just a stupid drinking (just a guess drinks had been drunk) mishap.

 

[UCDaveD]

True, but the responses weren't the same... They were more like - this sucks. It was harsh, as I stated, but a regular student (on scholarship) would likely get theirs pulled too... I would think that harsh too... Just a stupid drinking (just a guess drinks had been drunk) mishap.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't consider assaulting a female "just a stupid drinking mishap."

 

[Taco]

Neither do I.... If he assaulted her, I assume he'd have been jailed & the University wouldn't let him back a la Nate Miles. I misses the memo that he assaulted her.

 

[UCDaveD]

Neither do I.... If he assaulted her, I assume he'd have been jailed & the University wouldn't let him back a la Nate Miles. I misses the memo that he assaulted her.

He "grabbed the hair of the victim and pushed her head," according to a police report. "Wolf also knocked the glasses off of the victim's face with his hand. Wolf continued to remain in the apartment and was subsequently arrested by police."

http://He "grabbed the hair of the ...enosch-wolf-charges-dropped.ap/#ixzz2UGpMV0HX

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...enosch-wolf-charges-dropped.ap/#ixzz2UGpMV0HX​

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[tcf15]

While we're on this topic, let's see how PC handles this situation.

"According to a police report filed April 26, sophomore forward LaDontae Henton was accused to throwing 20-year-old Kristin Smith to the ground and dragging her by the feet to and then picking her up and throwing her into his dorm room door.
Smith also accused Henton of throwing her iPhone 5 against a wall, breaking the device into two pieces. She said he threatened to throw her down the stairs and threatened to “get someone after her,” according to the report.
Henton was charged with domestic simple assault and domestic vandalism. Smith was also charged with domestic vandalism."

http://www.wpri.com//dpp/news/local...all-star-arrested-on-domestic-assault-charges

 

[upstater]

While we're on this topic, let's see how PC handles this situation.

"According to a police report filed April 26, sophomore forward LaDontae Henton was accused to throwing 20-year-old Kristin Smith to the ground and dragging her by the feet to and then picking her up and throwing her into his dorm room door.
Smith also accused Henton of throwing her iPhone 5 against a wall, breaking the device into two pieces. She said he threatened to throw her down the stairs and threatened to “get someone after her,” according to the report.
Henton was charged with domestic simple assault and domestic vandalism. Smith was also charged with domestic vandalism."

http://www.wpri.com//dpp/news/local...all-star-arrested-on-domestic-assault-charges

Every case is different. Lawrence Phillips assaulting a woman by dragging by the hair is more than a little different than some of these other cases. PC has had big issues with their recruits, BIG. They dwarf anything at UConn.