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Lol...this guys been waiting since January for a John Wall 4 -game run and he finally got his shot
 
Frank Ivy said:
I noticed this thread some long time ago when the Boneyards were busy self- themselves into their usual daily oblivion. It's wonderful, I task you, is it not? when the ignorant voluntarily out themselves, unabashed, like the Chimp with the paint mark on his nose laughing at the one in the mirror, because the mirror Chimp knows not what marks him.

These are the darkened ones - the ones whose heads see not the light of day, as they are tightly wrapped in absorptive epithelial cells. I hereby call them out.


Palantine
HuskyMagic
21Huskies
UCHuskies08


Last 4 games - 21/7/13 (7 steals, 32 minutes) - 16/5/14 - 13/6/13 - 14/3/10.

Those numbers are heinous. In the last game, he was 3 boards and 3 steals away from a quadruple double. He only played 32 minutes. There have only been 4 recorded quadruple doubles in the history of the NBA - none in the last 18 years.

The shame, to have greatness pass in front of you, Palantine, HM, 21, UCH08, and mistake it for common.
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FrankyIvy / Prezidint - stfu. I hope I'm not breaking any news to you now when I tell you pretty much no one here respects your opinions, going all the way back to the Dyson days. What's with the FrankIvy account? Did you get banned for your Trayvon Martin diatribe or something? Pretty funny if so, gotta love how people come crawling back after being banned from message boards with alt accounts.

I said he isn't a star player. I stand by that. I guess because he had 4 decent games, and you wrote up a long-winded post where you almost pull a muscle patting yourself on the back, he now is. Okay, buddy. Whatever you want to think.

But ROFL @ HE ALMOST HAD A QUADRUPLE DOUBLE ............. If he had three more assists and three more boards. QUADRUPLE SEVEN YO!
 
would've made a lot more sense just to bump this after his really strong february
 
Having seen John Wall play in person, it is amazing how much more athletic he is than any other player on his team. At the same time, he still can't shoot outside the lane. The Wizards are really interesting because they have two near all-star players in Wall and Nene, but the supporting cast is just horrid. The Wizards have 19 wins, but only 15 against teams not named the Bobcats.

They should be a much easier fix than the Bobcats. If I were the Wizards I would seriously consider doing what Charlotte should do if they end up without the top pick: trade down for two lottery picks, or a lottery and another first rounder. The Wizards need multiple pieces. They need a starter at the PF, SG and SF positions. Jordan Crawford is a backup, Trevor Booker is a backup and Chris Singleton is a third PF.

If Andre Blatche could live up to his hype, he would be an ideal 4, but he doesn't look like he will.
 
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If John Wall were a UConn alum would the comments remain the same?
 
Wall is a gifted athlete. He runs like a rocket. Jumps like a kangaroo.

He can't shoot.
He doesn't lead.
He plays small in the big moments.
He has no concept of how to run a team.

In today's "look at me" NBA some may consider him a star. But he is a poor basketball player. He has had a few nice games in what amounts to this season's garbage time. Andre Blatche had a few for the Wizards last year at this time.
 
Palatine said:
Wall is a gifted athlete. He runs like a rocket. Jumps like a kangaroo.

He can't shoot.
He doesn't lead.
He plays small in the big moments.
He has no concept of how to run a team.

In today's "look at me" NBA some may consider him a star. But he is a poor basketball player. He has had a few nice games in what amounts to this season's garbage time. Andre Blatche had a few for the Wizards last year at this time.
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I don't disagree with a lot of what you say.

He can't shoot. Very true
He doesn't lead. Lead who? His team is a joke.
He plays small in the big moments. What big moments, his team is a joke.
He has no concept of how to run a team. Or his team is a joke.

You can't really judge how good a PG is until he has decent players around him. PG's are usually judged on TO's, Assists or some combination of those. The fact Wall averages 8 assists with the crap around him, is amazing.

Throw in the fact PG's take time to develop and Wall is the same age as Kemba, he'll be fine.

Nash didn't average over 8 assists until he was nearly 30.
Billups only once in his career.
Rondo was in his 3rd year and 23.

The Wizards have no shooters and can't spread the floor at all. Put Pierce and Allen with Wall and he would look a lot better (similar to Rondo).
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
I'm flummoxed.

Why has this thread lasted this long?

Are all of your egos really this sensitive?

Or is it that your lives are so worthless and boring that arguing minutia is the light of your day?

Hmmmmm?
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It's the cal connection.
 
Frank Ivy said:
I noticed this thread some long time ago when the Boneyards were busy self- themselves into their usual daily oblivion. It's wonderful, I task you, is it not? when the ignorant voluntarily out themselves, unabashed, like the Chimp with the paint mark on his nose laughing at the one in the mirror, because the mirror Chimp knows not what marks him.

These are the darkened ones - the ones whose heads see not the light of day, as they are tightly wrapped in absorptive epithelial cells. I hereby call them out.


Palantine
HuskyMagic
21Huskies
UCHuskies08


Last 4 games - 21/7/13 (7 steals, 32 minutes) - 16/5/14 - 13/6/13 - 14/3/10.

Those numbers are heinous. In the last game, he was 3 boards and 3 steals away from a quadruple double. He only played 32 minutes. There have only been 4 recorded quadruple doubles in the history of the NBA - none in the last 18 years.

The shame, to have greatness pass in front of you, Palantine, HM, 21, UCH08, and mistake it for common.[/quote/]

You know you should read carefully and come up with some better information when confronting the guru himself. Nobody said John Wall cant play or that he is not a solid player. Palatine, myself and a couple of others are saying that he is way overhyped and is not a star. He is a good player but that its I dont see him becoming a star in Washington or anywhere else for that matter.

UCONN fans analyze their own players just as critically as they would any other team's players so even if he was a UCONN alum he would still have been criticized. I have criticized for example Daniels from Day 1, and on the other hand I have praised Rudy Gay as being overall the most gifted player in the NBA.
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I live in DC. Sometimes I go a game if I get great seats free. The games are on TV as I surf around. I watch a few minutes here and their or longer if they play a team with a UConn alum. I can't avoid the Wiz. As for Wall.

He can't shoot. Very true We agree.
He doesn't lead. Lead who? His team is a joke. He is a me first player. He needs to fix that first.
He plays small in the big moments. What big moments, his team is a joke. For example, his TOs often come at the end of a game when his team has a chance.
He has no concept of how to run a team. Or his team is a joke. He doesn't control tempo. He can't settle them down when they are out of control. He has only one speed, 11. According to Randy Wittman (Wiz HC) "He can only play one way. He's got to be an aggressive player. When he tries to play any way other than, he's apt to turn the ball over. You have to keep him pushing the envelope." That is sugar coating it to say the least.
 
caw said:
He doesn't lead. Lead who? His team is a joke.
He plays small in the big moments. What big moments, his team is a joke.
He has no concept of how to run a team. Or his team is a joke.
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And he's the punchline.
 
Palatine said:
I live in DC. Sometimes I go a game if I get great seats free. The games are on TV as I surf around. I watch a few minutes here and their or longer if they play a team with a UConn alum. I can't avoid the Wiz. As for Wall.

He can't shoot. Very true We agree.
He doesn't lead. Lead who? His team is a joke. He is a me first player. He needs to fix that first.
He plays small in the big moments. What big moments, his team is a joke. For example, his TOs often come at the end of a game when his team has a chance.
He has no concept of how to run a team. Or his team is a joke. He doesn't control tempo. He can't settle them down when they are out of control. He has only one speed, 11. According to Randy Wittman (Wiz HC) "He can only play one way. He's got to be an aggressive player. When he tries to play any way other than, he's apt to turn the ball over. You have to keep him pushing the envelope." That is sugar coating it to say the least.
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I do agree he isn't a star by any means.

I just feel that judging him based on the past two years is very difficult. Watching him live, his athleticism is quite apparent.

I do agree he isn't the best PG and he still needs to grow into his role, your expansion on what you see as his flaws, I do agree with.

At the same time, he is the same age as Kemba and putting up much better numbers. I see Wall and see the need for a veteran to help lead that team, in addition to about 3 real NBA starters.
 

You know you should read carefully and come up with some better information when confronting the guru himself. Nobody said John Wall cant play or that he is not a solid player. Palatine, myself and a couple of others are saying that he is way overhyped and is not a star. He is a good player but that its I dont see him becoming a star in Washington or anywhere else for that matter.

UCONN fans analyze their own players just as critically as they would any other team's players so even if he was a UCONN alum he would still have been criticized. I have criticized for example Daniels from Day 1, and on the other hand I have praised Rudy Gay as being overall the most gifted player in the NBA.
 
huskymagic said:
and on the other hand I have praised Rudy Gay as being overall the most gifted player in the NBA.
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Love Rudy, great kid, hell of a player, but if there's an Exhibit A as to why your posts are consistently hilarious it's this right here.
 
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huskymagic said:
You know you should read carefully and come up with some better information when confronting the guru himself. Nobody said John Wall cant play or that he is not a solid player. Palatine, myself and a couple of others are saying that he is way overhyped and is not a star. He is a good player but that its I dont see him becoming a star in Washington or anywhere else for that matter.

UCONN fans analyze their own players just as critically as they would any other team's players so even if he was a UCONN alum he would still have been criticized. I have criticized for example Daniels from Day 1, and on the other hand I have praised Rudy Gay as being overall the most gifted player in the NBA.
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Were you referring to me?
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Love Rudy, great kid, hell of a player, but if there's an Exhibit A as to why your posts are consistently hilarious it's this right here.
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Have to agree, any conversation about most gifted player in the NBA begins with Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Wade, Paul and maybe 5-10 others before Gay gets mentioned.
 
caw said:
Have to agree, any conversation about most gifted player in the NBA begins with Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Wade, Paul and maybe 5-10 others before Gay gets mentioned.
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Personally I believe that Rudy is definitely at the top based on his overall skill level and talent. Its not like I am the only one saying this, Kevin Durant has said that about Rudy as being the toughest and hardest player to defend. Shaq also said the same thing on TNT when Memphis was playing saying that Rudy is one of the best players in the NBA.

Rudy's problems are his personality and his passive nature similar to Lamb. He plays like a number 2 guy instead of the great player he is and can be. I am talking about just the physical talent level and skill level not whether he scores the most points in the NBA.
 
21Huskies said:
i've always thought Jerome Dyson and John Wall were very similar players. one just got a ton more hype despite pretty similar productions
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You need to lay off the crack bro!! Jerome cant jump with John Wall and that's a fact!!
 
sportsjunky1 said:
You need to lay off the crack bro!! Jerome cant jump with John Wall and that's a fact!!
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Obviously I don't think they are similar athletes. I think they have similar styles tho and had similar production.
 
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21Huskies said:
Obviously I don't think they are similar athletes. I think they have similar styles tho and had similar production.
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There not really that similar maybe the same position (combo-guard) and similar size but the similarity stops there! Jerome is a fringe NBA player (12th man)..John Wall is a future all star!
 
Really? Thanks for pointing that out. You mean Dyson's nba numbers aren't as good as a guy drafted #1 and got the keys to the organization from day 1 ? You do realize its possible to score 20ppg and have 6apg and still hurt your team right? Wall isn't an efficient player yet. He may get there someday but right now he's not.

Take a peak at their production and efficiency in college. Wall is obviously better, but the difference isn't one guy being picked #1 and the other guy being a d-leaguer.
 
21Huskies said:
Really? Thanks for pointing that out. You mean Dyson's nba numbers aren't as good as a guy drafted #1 and got the keys to the organization from day 1 ? You do realize its possible to score 20ppg and have 6apg and still hurt your team right? Wall isn't an efficient player yet. He may get there someday but right now he's not.

Take a peak at their production and efficiency in college. Wall is obviously better, but the difference isn't one guy being picked #1 and the other guy being a d-leaguer.
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Jerome and John wall went up against each other in college and let just say it was 1 sided the whole night.Jerome thought he was better the at the time freshmen john wall,and it wasn't even close. that disrespectful to John wall for him to be compared to Jerome Dyson in any extent. you out to be ashamed!!
 
sportsjunky1 said:
Jerome and John wall went up against each other in college and let just say it was 1 sided the whole night.Jerome thought he was better the at the time freshmen john wall,and it wasn't even close. that disrespectful to John wall for him to be compared to Jerome Dyson in any extent. you out to be ashamed!!
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It was not one sided the entire night. Don't be ridiculous.
 
sportsjunky1 said:
There not really that similar maybe the same position (combo-guard) and similar size but the similarity stops there! Jerome is a fringe NBA player (12th man)..John Wall is a future all star!
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Wall will be an all star after 100 years of development.
 
sportsjunky1 said:
Jerome and John wall went up against each other in college and let just say it was 1 sided the whole night.Jerome thought he was better the at the time freshmen john wall,and it wasn't even close. that disrespectful to John wall for him to be compared to Jerome Dyson in any extent. you out to be ashamed!!
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Let's not look at the facts, or anything. Wall had the better night. It wasn't "1 sided the whole night."
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