Jeremy Lamb to the Hornets

[Kitaman]

great trade for both sides. I think lamb is worth more than an expiring + future second, but he is going to have to prove it. he's got a chance now.

That's the way I see it also. I don't live in OKC but I would imagine that they are not complaiing. Brooks was a bad coach for Lamb, I hope that was his only problem down there. Nonetheless like you said he can prove it now, he does have Kemba who I believe will help him do it.

 

[sledog]

Is JL a 2 guard now?

 

[AZHuskiePop]

The Waiters move was probably the most baffling NBA transaction of the entire year, and that's saying a lot. You got two of the best players in the world, and you're going to complement them with one of the worst spot-up shooters in the league, somebody who is not a good passer, and whose best skills are extremely redundant with his back court partner.

Then there's the part where he and Westbrook were out there in the latter half of the season free-styling on defense to the point where OKC devolved into one of the worst defensive teams in the league.

I've never seen an owner get the criticism and praise for every single move his team makes like with MJ. Do people still not realize Rich Cho is the one making the moves?

MJ is the face of the club .
If Charlotte ever does anything ,he will be the story.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

I've never seen an owner get the criticism and praise for every single move his team makes like with MJ. Do people still not realize Rich Cho is the one making the moves?

True, but MJ still signs off, or so I have been told. MJ is the face of the franchise. He will always get more blame/praise than deserved. Not to mention his legacy as a talent evaluator from his early days still lingers.

 

[aceboon]

MJ is the face of the club .
If Charlotte ever does anything ,he will be the story.

Thats the story made by those who think he is the one making all of the moves, which is incorrect. It was established a long time ago by Rick Bonnell, who is more connected to what goes on with the Hornets than anyone, that player personnel duties were handed over to Cho when he came onboard.

 

[NC_Uconn_Fan]

Sweet. I will get to see Lamb and Kemba this year at time warner.

 

[joober jones]

I realize that not everyone's a cheerleader, but one's fanhood comes into question when they view their players in a manner bordering on contempt.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Wow i can't believe i didn't have this troll jsm 1970 on ignore. calling rookies and 22 year olds busts. ha

How about that: an off-season Ignore. I bet this thread will re-read much better.

 

[Tommyboy]

How about that: an off-season Ignore. I bet this thread will re-read much better.

The only problem is I still read the boneyard alot via Forum Runner on my phone and tablet and that ignores the ignore list!

 

[Huskies4ever]

No way anybody that knows the league considers Ben a bust. To me, BG is the most underrated UConn star--I believe he should be considered in the Caron/Rip tier. In the pros, BG just got a new contract LAST year and is settling into a bench role in his 30s. He's had a good pro career for a 4th pick. Any NBA fan will tell you that.

Sorry, rashad, I have to disagree.

BG was phenomenal his first 4 or so years (his time with the Bulls). When he should have been in his prime (25- 30 age range), he declined to extreme mediocrity. Rip and Caron were all-stars, and Rip had longevity (sustained excellence is what I mean). Injuries aside, Caron could have had longevity as well.

BG really could have made a name for himself. He looked like he would be a perennial all-star. He did early on. But for some reason upon becoming a Piston his game plummeted. It's as if he lost all desire to be great. To me, that makes him a bust. What coulda been.

It's great that he got a new contract, but 3 pt marksmen off the bench are a valuable commodity.

He's had a good career, same with Donyell Marshall, but with the talent and being top 4 picks, more is expected, especially since, after 3 years of college, these guys weren't drafted on talent that needed time to develop. JMHO.

 

[Huskies4ever]

You guys need to learn what a "bust" is. Ben Gordon was absolutely not a bust.

You used the term was. His career is not over yet.

He wasn't early on, that's for sure. What happened to him makes him seem like a bust to me, just saying.

 

[Huskies4ever]

Agreed. No way can you consider Gordon to be a bust. You don't get second and third contracts like Gordon did if you're a bust.

As a 3 pt specialist you could.

 

[Chief00]

Don't have time now to break down J Lamb's game - will do soon. Stay tuned!

 

[aceboon]

BG isn't a bust but he's definitely been a disappointment since leaving Chicago, no idea what's going on there but he looks like the prototype for guys who get paid and stop giving a . Don't understand how he went from being a 20ppg scorer on playoff teams in Chicago to what went on in Detroit. Usually when guys go to worse teams they put up even more stats with the whole looter in a riot theory. Its not like those Bulls teams had alot of scorers when he was there(Hinrich/BG/Deng, then sub out Hinrich for rookie Rose) so its not like he was scoring off the attention paid to a bunch of other talented dudes.

 

[CallMeBruce]

You used the term was. His career is not over yet.

He wasn't early on, that's for sure. What happened to him makes him seem like a bust to me, just saying.

Just saying, you're an idiot. Declining after significant success isn't "busting," it's getting worse as you age. Michael Jordan is a bust, since he's not good at basketball anymore, right?

 

[mets1090]

Don't have time now to break down J Lamb's game - will do soon. Stay tuned!

Alright man just let us know when you have a little more free time.

 

[Huskies4ever]

Agree to disagree, and maybe I was a bit strong in my defense of BG.

But Detroit killed many careers during the yrs BG was there (including Charlie V, unfortunately). It had nothing to do with desire and everything to do with Dumars's poor roster construction after the 04 championship and a revolving door of coaches (the team literally "mutinied" against that dude Kuester).

And to be clear, I think BGs COLLEGE career should be considered on Ray/Rip/Caron level, while his pro career has been steady and solid with a lot of bad luck beginning in Detroit. I wouldnt be surprised if he had a moment or two in the sun still if he ever finds some minutes off the bench for a playoff team.

I would hope every UConn fan would feel the same. He was amazing.

 

[Huskies4ever]

Just saying, you're an idiot. Declining after significant success isn't "busting," it's getting worse as you age. Michael Jordan is a bust, since he's not good at basketball anymore, right?

So sorry you feel I'm an idiot, I am very far from such.

MJ didn't decline after his first four years in the league. BTW, there's a difference between your early 30's and late 40's and being an all-time great player and a decent (potentially great) player. BG didn't get worse with age unless he aged unusually rapidly (mid-twenties is not getting worse with age).

 

[intlzncster]

I realize that not everyone's a cheerleader, but one's fanhood comes into question when they view their players in a manner bordering on contempt.

Unless of course you are a fan of the Jets. Part and parcel there.

 

[nomar]

Just saying, you're an idiot. Declining after significant success isn't "busting," it's getting worse as you age. Michael Jordan is a bust, since he's not good at basketball anymore, right?

Idiot? H4E is a good poster. No need for insults because you disagree.

 

[Chin Diesel]

The busts still sure do love their pay rates.

Jalen Rose had a comment about that tonight on the draft coverage. The basic do the math of how hard it is to actually make it to the NBA and sign even one contract and how those numbers compare to regular college grads.

His point? No one who wears an NBA uniform is a 'bust'. A disappointment? Sure. Someone who doesn't maximize their talent or opportunity? Yes.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

I was happy to see Charlotte draft Kaminsky and not someone that could threaten Lamb's minutes. I'm excited to see a Kemba-Lamb-Frank lineup.

 

[KembaStepback]

I'm just not sure Kaminsky will be a good pro. He's a decent shooter, but the guy is so SLOW. If he doesn't speed up his feet, he wont be able to stay on the floor because guys will torch him on D.

Lamb should get some solid minutes off the bench behind Batum and MKG.

 

[Huskies4ever]

Jalen Rose had a comment about that tonight on the draft coverage. The basic do the math of how hard it is to actually make it to the NBA and sign even one contract and how those numbers compare to regular college grads.

His point? No one who wears an NBA uniform is a 'bust'. A disappointment? Sure. Someone who doesn't maximize their talent or opportunity? Yes.

Maybe that's what I mean, Chin. BG is a huge disappointment to me.

Certainly an awesome Husky (and one that I loved watching at UConn and his early years in the NBA), that didn't maximize his potential or opportunity. He could have had a much better career than he has since his days with the Bulls. I wish that was the case. Not hating on the guy, but just the thought of what could have been, you know?

 

[James]

lamb press conference, looks spacey per usual.

 

[BUConn10]

So can NBA fans start calling it how it is and label MKG a bust or is it still blasphemous to talk badly about the holy Kentucky recruits? I have no idea how they saw that kids jump shot form and thought "this kid is the #2 overall pick after Davis". Charlotte could have had Andre for f sake.

 

[HuskyFich]

So can NBA fans start calling it how it is and label MKG a bust or is it still blasphemous to talk badly about the holy Kentucky recruits? I have no idea how they saw that kids jump shot form and thought "this kid is the #2 overall pick after Davis". Charlotte could have had Andre for f sake.

He's working on it. Still would rather have Drummond in the Buzz City, but you like to see the kid buy into the system and make a necessary change.

 

[HuskyCLT]

So can NBA fans start calling it how it is and label MKG a bust or is it still blasphemous to talk badly about the holy Kentucky recruits? I have no idea how they saw that kids jump shot form and thought "this kid is the #2 overall pick after Davis". Charlotte could have had Andre for f sake.

In the Hornets' defense, I remember him being basically the consensus #2 guy in everyone's rankings that year. That year was Anthony Davis and everyone else. It's easy to look back and see how guys like Lillard, Andre, Beal have panned out but everyone thought MKG was the guy at the time.

Today, MKG is a top defender and the Hornets are a totally different team with and without him. His jump shot is improving every year and he's definitely capable in transition. Plus the guy is what, 22? Yeah, he wasn't the best #2 overall, but I have a very hard time saying he's a bust.

 

[CallMeBruce]

In the Hornets' defense, I remember him being basically the consensus #2 guy in everyone's rankings that year. That year was Anthony Davis and everyone else. It's easy to look back and see how guys like Lillard, Andre, Beal have panned out but everyone thought MKG was the guy at the time.

Today, MKG is a top defender and the Hornets are a totally different team with and without him. His jump shot is improving every year and he's definitely capable in transition. Plus the guy is what, 22? Yeah, he wasn't the best #2 overall, but I have a very hard time saying he's a bust.

You remember correctly. It was one of those years where there was a consensus #1 pick and then a lot of guys ('97-esque), but MKG was definitely the guy most people liked with the #2 pick. Charlotte has had pretty bad lottery luck, unfortunately.

 

[imno1]

So can NBA fans start calling it how it is and label MKG a bust or is it still blasphemous to talk badly about the holy Kentucky recruits? I have no idea how they saw that kids jump shot form and thought "this kid is the #2 overall pick after Davis". Charlotte could have had Andre for f sake.

He's not a bust. He's a starter when healthy. He might not be a star or worthy of the #2 but a bust? No way