Jeff Jacobs: Ollie Will Fight, But Can He Get Better Leading Program?

[whaler11]

Im not "defending" Ollie im saying

1.) Comparing him to Dia o is mental

2.) There is zero evidence he stopped caring and showing love for his players

You insisted otherwise. I asked for proof and you couldnt provide any. So you then started correcting grammer?? Lol

1. I said there were similarities to Diaco. And they are clear if you'd open your eyes.

2. Nobody said he stopped caring about his players. I said he preaches love and family - but like Diaco the results scream that they weren't a family. I know 3 of the 5 healthy returning players transferring isn't clue enough for you - but pretty much everyone else gets this.

If you'd just stop emotionally fighting any perceived negative comment about Ollie and actually try reading you'd look less ridiculous in this thread.

 

[AntG168]

We have gazillions of open minutes and players who are in line for all of those minutes are leaving. Do they not like Ollie or do they think he can't coach? I can assure you it is one of those reasons, but you can be a delusional homer all you want and say they are homesick, or something. The reality of the situation isn't going to change by wishing it wasn't.

Im not saying anything. I have not claimed to."know" anything. But if your going to insist he stopped loving and caring for his players, and hes on the same path as diaco then the onus is on YOU to provide the evidence. Not for me to prove otherwise. To mang times on this board ppl just spout bull**** speculation as fact. And it needs to be called out. PERIOD

 

[Richmondhsky]

Here's the thing. As good a person as I and most here believe KO to be, you can't just replicate the Jim Calhoun school of tough love. Nobody can name a dozen (and that is overly generous) college coaches who won, led and cared more about the game and the kids than JC. Did he "expedite" the departure of some under performers? Sure. Still, his former players as loyalists are legion and none was ever immune to his wrath both in practice and in game in front of 14,000 people.

Following a real, earned, legend such as Jim is a bitch I'm sure. KO was hand picked by Jim and what I find most concerning, in theory, is if their relationship has soured. I feel Jim has properly and effectively lowered his profile around the UConn program, so if KO is pushing him away that would be troubling and not at all understandable. Coach Calhoun may not be a Ferrari in the garage; but he's a Bentley to be polished and shown/used appropriately.

I would love to know where the evidence lies to back up the ascertain that proves there is a problem with JC and KO....Jacobs? The Boneyard? Where does this conjecture come from....show me the evidence....not Boneyard conjecture....real proof. Anything less is hurtful to the Program, University and the two coaches not to mention the players

 

[AntG168]

1. I said there were similarities to Diaco. And they are clear if you'd open your eyes.

2. Nobody said he stopped caring about his players. I said he preaches love and family - but like Diaco the results scream that they weren't a family. I know 3 of the 5 healthy returning players transferring isn't clue enough for you - but pretty much everyone else gets this.

If you'd just stop emotionally fighting any perceived negative comment about Ollie and actually try reading you'd look less ridiculous in this thread.

You said half the team. I didnt insinuate anything i took you at your word. If you meant returning players than say returning players. I dont fight every negative comment i fight the ignorant ones. And i must say im suprised at you. Your reasoning for comparing ollie to diaco was clear. Ollie also has similarities to great coaches. So why only bring up diaco. Easy, because you were insinuating they were more alike than different. If not then why bring it up? I disagree that ollie and diaco are similar in any significant way

 

[AntG168]

I would love to know where the evidence lies to back up the ascertain that proves there is a problem with JC and KO....Jacobs? The Boneyard? Where does this conjecture come from....show me the evidence....not Boneyard conjecture....real proof. Anything less is hurtful to the Program, University and the two coaches not to mention the players

THER IS NONE! They just spew falsehoods as fact. Its the new thing around here

 

[Walker11]

And it needs to be called out. PERIOD

Keep fighting the good fight.

 

[AntG168]

Keep fighting the good fight.

Thanks for the encouragement

 

[whaler11]

You said half the team. I didnt insinuate anything i toom you at your word. If you meant returning players than say returning players. I dont fight every negative comment i fight the ignorant ones. And i must say im suprised at you. Your reasoning for comparing ollie to diaco was clear. Ollie also has similarities to great coaches. So why only bring up diaco. Easy, because you were insinuating they were more alike than different. If not then why bring it up? I disagree that ollie and diaco are similar in any significant way

Please nobody is counting players out of eligiblity in the denominator when calculating transfers... maybe you know... because they can't transfer?

16-17. 0-7 against tournament teams. Worst team in 30 years. Exodus of players. Little help coming.

Gee where would I ever get the idea to compare this tire fire to the football tire fire of the last 3 years?

They are totally different - everything is fine. The roster next year is worse than the roster this year but something something something they are good.

 

[AntG168]

Please nobody is counting players out of eligiblity in the denominator when calculating transfers... maybe you know... because they can't transfer?

16-17. 0-7 against tournament teams. Worst team in 30 years. Exodus of players. Little help coming.

Gee where would I ever get the idea to compare this tire fire to the football tire fire of the last 3 years?

They are totally different - everything is fine. The roster next year is worse than the roster this year but something something something they are good.

LOST CAUSE

 

[whaler11]

LOST CAUSE

Why don't you bookmark this one and we can check back in 24 months and then decide who was the lost cause.

I've seen this show before. I know how it ends.

 

[UConnDan97]

Please nobody is counting players out of eligiblity in the denominator when calculating transfers... maybe you know... because they can't transfer?

16-17. 0-7 against tournament teams. Worst team in 30 years. Exodus of players. Little help coming.

Gee where would I ever get the idea to compare this tire fire to the football tire fire of the last 3 years?

They are totally different - everything is fine. The roster next year is worse than the roster this year but something something something they are good.

They are totally different, my friend. I'm sorry but they are.

I can't comment too deeply on the transfers because everyone has to do what's right for them. But last season was the first time Ollie didn't win 20 games. And there's that small matter of winning a national championship that some might choose to view as a positive.

Is everything roses and daisies right now? No. But comparing Ollie to Diaco is criminal. If Ollie is let go today, he will be a head coach at a respected D1 school tomorrow (or possibly a low level NBA team), unlike Diaco who is now back as a coordinator. Diaco was the worst football head coach I have ever seen. Like...ever...

 

[AntG168]

Why don't you bookmark this one and we can check back in 24 months and then decide who was the lost cause.

I've seen this show before. I know how it ends.

You Know How It Ends.

Keep make ridiculous comments. Ive already book marked it

 

[intlzncster]

walker11 and whaler11. this is getting confusing.

 

[EricLA]

I honestly hope Ollie makes it. He led us to a NC and was JC's chosen successor. But more important than that, what I care about is UCONN making it. If that means Ollie needs to go, then I'm 100% in favor of it. Let's face it - Ollie is a great story - all those seasons on different NBA teams, impacting some of the best in the world, taking over a storied program, being JC's chosen one, winning a NC right out the gate, courted by NBA teams as a HC... All great stuff.

But bottom line is I'm a UCONN fan. IF the guy is a train wreck (and I'm NOT saying he is), and he can't effectively lead UCONN, then I want him gone.

This past season was a disaster. Then firing Miller, losing 3 players to transfer, the negative comments by the player's dads - what's worse than a "disaster"? Whatever it is, that's where we are.

I'm rooting for Ollie to take UCONN to great heights, but if he can't do it, and isn't the right guy for the job, then we need to get someone in there who can do it. Simple as that. Not sure how much time he will be given, but at this point, he's living on borrowed time, and the future looks somewhat bleak.

 

[whaler11]

You Know How It Ends.

Keep make ridiculous comments. Ive already book marked it

Like I told you at the beginning - people pull punches and don't share what they think because dogmatic posters like you shout them down with emotional responses.

Trust me I'm far from the only one who is coming to the realization this may be (in your words) a lost cause.

If you haven't paid attention to sports well enough or long enough to recognize patterns - that's on you, not me.

 

[Huskybass]

I honestly hope Ollie makes it. He led us to a NC and was JC's chosen successor. But more important than that, what I care about is UConn making it. If that means Ollie needs to go, then I'm 100% in favor of it. Let's face it - Ollie is a great story - all those seasons on different NBA teams, impacting some of the best in the world, taking over a storied program, being JC's chosen one, winning a NC right out the gate, courted by NBA teams as a HC... All great stuff.

But bottom line is I'm a UConn fan. IF the guy is a train wreck (and I'm NOT saying he is), and he can't effectively lead UConn, then I want him gone.

This past season was a disaster. Then firing Miller, losing 3 players to transfer, the negative comments by the player's dads - what's worse than a "disaster"? Whatever it is, that's where we are.

I'm rooting for Ollie to take UConn to great heights, but if he can't do it, and isn't the right guy for the job, then we need to get someone in there who can do it. Simple as that. Not sure how much time he will be given, but at this point, he's living on borrowed time, and the future looks somewhat bleak.

Refreshingly honest.

 

[JMick]

Like I told you at the beginning - people pull punches and don't share what they think because dogmatic posters like you shout them down with emotional responses.

Trust me I'm far from the only one who is coming to the realization this may be (in your words) a lost cause.

If you haven't paid attention to sports well enough or long enough to recognize patterns - that's on you, not me.

There are too many people here who believe that the coaches and their respective programs do not deserve any level of scrutiny. I'm still amazed at how many people are trying to paint the current situation as positive when we are clearly in a downward spiral. The only question left to be answered is why are we spiraling? Did we just stall and need to get the plane righted or did the wings get shot off? For a while I thought it might be the former but articles like this make it seem like the latter.

 

[AntG168]

Like I told you at the beginning - people pull punches and don't share what they think because dogmatic posters like you shout them down with emotional responses.

Trust me I'm far from the only one who is coming to the realization this may be (in your words) a lost cause.

If you haven't paid attention to sports well enough or long enough to recognize patterns - that's on you, not me.

I didnt shout you down. I asked for proof of your claims and you didnt provide any. End of story

 

[JMick]

I didnt shout you down. I asked for proof of your claims and you didnt provide any. End of story

You're on this board often enough to see where the whispers come from. Don't lower your intelligence level to try and win an argument. You're asking for concrete evidence that is not likely to be found unless you wiretapped players phones or got access to their texts.

 

[AntG168]

You're on this board often enough to see where the whispers come from. Don't lower your intelligence level to try and win an argument. You're asking for concrete evidence that is not likely to be found unless you wiretapped players phones or got access to their texts.

That isn't what this about. He compared Ollie to Diaco because he claims ollie "preaches" love but doesnt show it. Thats pure unfounded speculation. The players that transfered sited their reasons as being the way they were being used. Vance went out of his way to say how good a guy ollie was. If you want to say ollie didnt utilize guys correctly or re recruited the wrong guy cool. You can use evidence to back that up. But to use rap lyrics in a tweet to insinuate ollie was "fake" with his players is dumb.

 

[ctchamps]

Because 2014, which is starting to disappear over the horizon.

It will never disappear from my horizon.

 

[JMick]

That isn't what this about. He compared Ollie to Diaco because he claims ollie "preaches" love but doesnt show it. Thats pure unfounded speculation

Three players left, and MAL de-committed. And apparently Ollie didn't show up in person for MAL after he committed, even though he's right in New England and was our most important recruit. Does that sound like showing love to you? Because it sure as hell doesn't sound like it to me.

 

[AntG168]

Three players left, and MAL de-committed. And apparently Ollie didn't show up in person for MAL after he committed, even though he's right in New England and was our most important recruit. Does that sound like showing love to you? Because it sure as hell doesn't sound like it to me.

Once again the transfers never once stated their reasons for leaving were because they didnt get alomg with ollie. That is unfounded speculation. They sited they way they were being used, developed as the reason. He didnt go see MAL after he committed. Idk what that was about and im not claiming to. But you provided more evidence with MAL than he did the entire time. And we still dont know if thats why he decomitted

 

[JMick]

Once again the transfers never once stated their reasons for leaving were because they didnt get alomg with ollie. That is unfounded speculation. They sited they way they were being used, developed as the reason. He didnt go see MAL after he committed. Idk what that was about and im not claiming to. But you provided more evidence with MAL than he did the entire time. And we still dont know if thats why he decomitted

And again, you're looking for some sort of proof that is literally impossible to get unless you're a fly on the wall or obscenely connected.

Regardless, does it matter why they left? Whether they didn't like Ollie or they thought he couldn't coach (which has been expressed here) it's a major problem regardless.

 

[ctchamps]

I dont understand how your the first one to call out that nonsense. A professional journalist shouldnt even imply such things with ZERO eveidence to back it up. That was jeff jacobs "piling on"

I was going to but my cat insisted I play with him. It was a far more compelling thing to do then to expose the nonsense of JJ. I've done it in the past and I have a thing about repeating inane and useless tasks. Useless as in Blauds and JJ and the ilk are more likely trying to foment reactions as much as searching for answers. If people don't know this by now dot dot dot.

Well there is one thing that I repeat that is inane and useless. But I don't think there is anything else.