Jeff Jacobs: Ollie Will Fight, But Can He Get Better Leading Program?

[whaler11]

This is a steaming pile of horse manure. It's not our fault you haven't figured out how to overcome confirmation bias.

You can't even make up your lack of self awareness in this post.

I hope you end up being right and get to taunt me for years. The history of sports gives you really long odds.

 

[KingAG]

Look at the roster.

Facts? Not vague tweets, or 3 out of 12 players transferring. But facts? Which means actual evidence kevin ollie didnt show love towards his players. I know its a hard concept for some but its important to seperate facts from speculation

 

[KingAG]

How could a repeat of the last 5 years give us any less than one additional national championship?

This is a classic response! Lol. I didnt even catch it lol

 

[whaler11]

Here you go sensationalizing again.
1.) Half the team didnt leave. 3 players did.
2.) The players remaining have shown no evidence of them having a rift with Ollie. They all seem to like him.
3.) Even the ones that left, left saying ollie was a great guy.
4.) Purvis is quoted on instagram live as calling Ollie a father figure to him(anyone who was in that live please confirm)
5.) You have ZERO ZERO proof that any of the players dont "like" ollie. Its all baseless speculation.


Your response was silly as it provided no proof. In society today you can just make things up with 0 evidence and it be excepted. So ill try again. Evidence?

You live in a fantasy land. All the evidence points in the exact opposite of what you are saying - but you don't care about evidence - you care about making emotional arguments in the face of it.

 

[Stainmaster]

You can't even make up your lack of self awareness in this post.

I hope you end up being right and get to taunt me for years. The history of sports gives you really long odds.

If I want advice on odds, you're not the guy I'm going to.

 

[KingAG]

You live in a fantasy land. All the evidence points in the exact opposite of what you are saying - but you don't care about evidence - you care about making emotional arguments in the face of it.

THEN WHERE IS IT!?! Present it to me. I'll wait........oh and while you reach, please refute anything i just said...

 

[whaler11]

If I want advice on odds, you're not the guy I'm going to.

That might be the dumbest thing you've ever said. Congrats.

 

[whaler11]

THEN WHERE IS IT!?! Present it to me. I'll wait...oh and while you reach, please refute anything i just said...

When it gets to the Hartford Courant of all places - it might be time to join some of us here in reality.

 

[Stainmaster]

That might be the dumbest thing you've ever said. Congrats.

You're not pissed off at the world enough to be trolling the basketball board on a Sunday night if you're as good with degen stuff as you say you are.

 

[KingAG]

When it gets to the Hartford Courant of all places - it might be time to join some of us here in reality.

Please quote in the hartford courant where it said KO stopped showing love to his players? Once again waiting...

 

[Stainmaster]

When it gets to the Hartford Courant of all places - it might be time to join some of us here in reality.

Oh yeah, I forgot that the measure of objective truth is whether something gets ink in a Jeff Jacobs opinion column. Nothing ambiguous about it as long as he's mentioned it.

 

[KingAG]

When it gets to the Hartford Courant of all places - it might be time to join some of us here in reality.

 

[KingAG]

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Sheesh he is real distant and unloving in this picture. Wow proof!

 

[whaler11]

You're not pissed off at the world enough to be trolling the basketball board on a Sunday night if you're as good with degen stuff as you say you are.

Trying to knock some sense into some true believers doesn't mean one is 'pissed off at the world'.

There comes a point where one reads so much rationalization, excuses and complete garbage that they have to try and inject reality.

We've been down this road before - how many dozens of people attacked me about Diaco and my opinions of him and his recruiting.

Remember when people used to tell me you had to wait years to judge Diaco's FCS recruiting classes?

This is a program that is completely melting down - you might think you are doing the right thing defending Ollie to the death. I can promise you that you are wrong and pretending this is a 'rough patch' is the last thing you want to do if you want to get back to winning.

Thankfully AD David Benedict seems to understand that better than the crew who wants to shout down anyone who doesn't want to play pretend.

 

[whaler11]

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Do you not get that a basketball 'family' needs to be more than 3 people? You can't possibly be this dim.

In between your strawmen - maybe consider that.

 

[Walker11]

Facts? Not vague tweets, or 3 out of 12 players transferring. But facts? Which means actual evidence kevin ollie didnt show love towards his players. I know its a hard concept for some but its important to seperate facts from speculation

Not worth my time if you don't get it already. I think my track record on this board shows I am quite positive and optimistic but you are willfully ignorant.

 

[KingAG]

Trying to knock some sense into some true believers doesn't mean one is 'pissed off at the world'.

There comes a point where one reads so much rationalization, excuses and complete garbage that they have to try and inject reality.

We've been down this road before - how many dozens of people attacked me about Diaco and my opinions of him and his recruiting.

Remember when people used to tell me you had to wait years to judge Diaco's FCS recruiting classes?

This is a program that is completely melting down - you might think you are doing the right thing defending Ollie to the death. I can promise you that you are wrong and pretending this is a 'rough patch' is the last thing you want to do if you want to get back to winning.

Thankfully AD David Benedict seems to understand that better than the crew who wants to shout down anyone who doesn't want to play pretend.

Diaco=Ollie is reality? Ok your a lost cause

 

[KingAG]

Not worth my time if you don't get it already. I think my track record on this board shows I am quite positive and optimistic but you are willfully ignorant.

Provided ZERO facts. I can give a rats a** what your track record is. You backed someone that made an idiotic baseless claim and got called out on it. Take it on the chin and move on

 

[whaler11]

Diaco=Ollie is reality? Ok your a lost cause

It's you're and now I am understanding you are illiterate and can't read.

 

[KingAG]

It's you're and now I am understanding you are illiterate and can't read.

Cute. Facts?

Ppl always turn into the literacy police when they lose an argument. Haha never fails

 

[whaler11]

Cute. Facts?

You think you are helping Ollie defending him to the death - but you are actually hurting him.

Hopefully for all of us your willful ignorance and blind faith works out.

It's rare but I guess it can happen.

 

[Walker11]

Provided ZERO facts. I can give a rats a** what your track record is. You made an idiotic baseless claim and got called out on it. Take it on the chin and move on

We have gazillions of open minutes and players who are in line for all of those minutes are leaving. Do they not like Ollie or do they think he can't coach? I can assure you it is one of those reasons, but you can be a delusional homer all you want and say they are homesick, or something. The reality of the situation isn't going to change by wishing it wasn't.

 

[UConniki]

Facts? Not vague tweets, or 3 out of 12 players transferring. But facts? Which means actual evidence kevin ollie didnt show love towards his players. I know its a hard concept for some but its important to seperate facts from speculation

3 out of 5 FIVE returning players transferred ... not 3 out of 12. And 1 out of 1 top 50 players rescinded their commitment to KO.

 

[KingAG]

You think you are helping Ollie defending him to the death - but you are actually hurting him.

Hopefully for all of us your willful ignorance and blind faith works out.

It's rare but I guess it can happen.

Im not "defending" Ollie im saying

1.) Comparing him to Dia o is mental

2.) There is zero evidence he stopped caring and showing love for his players

You insisted otherwise. I asked for proof and you couldnt provide any. So you then started correcting grammer?? Lol

 

[KingAG]

3 out of 5 FIVE returning players transferred ... not 3 out of 12. And 1 out of 1 top 50 players rescinded their commitment to KO.

He didnt say returning. He said half the team. Dont rescue him. We have 9 players, 3 left. Unless im bad at math that isnt half

 

[whaler11]

Im not "defending" Ollie im saying

1.) Comparing him to Dia o is mental

2.) There is zero evidence he stopped caring and showing love for his players

You insisted otherwise. I asked for proof and you couldnt provide any. So you then started correcting grammer?? Lol

1. I said there were similarities to Diaco. And they are clear if you'd open your eyes.

2. Nobody said he stopped caring about his players. I said he preaches love and family - but like Diaco the results scream that they weren't a family. I know 3 of the 5 healthy returning players transferring isn't clue enough for you - but pretty much everyone else gets this.

If you'd just stop emotionally fighting any perceived negative comment about Ollie and actually try reading you'd look less ridiculous in this thread.

 

[KingAG]

We have gazillions of open minutes and players who are in line for all of those minutes are leaving. Do they not like Ollie or do they think he can't coach? I can assure you it is one of those reasons, but you can be a delusional homer all you want and say they are homesick, or something. The reality of the situation isn't going to change by wishing it wasn't.

Im not saying anything. I have not claimed to."know" anything. But if your going to insist he stopped loving and caring for his players, and hes on the same path as diaco then the onus is on YOU to provide the evidence. Not for me to prove otherwise. To mang times on this board ppl just spout bull**** speculation as fact. And it needs to be called out. PERIOD

 

[Richmondhsky]

Here's the thing. As good a person as I and most here believe KO to be, you can't just replicate the Jim Calhoun school of tough love. Nobody can name a dozen (and that is overly generous) college coaches who won, led and cared more about the game and the kids than JC. Did he "expedite" the departure of some under performers? Sure. Still, his former players as loyalists are legion and none was ever immune to his wrath both in practice and in game in front of 14,000 people.

Following a real, earned, legend such as Jim is a bitch I'm sure. KO was hand picked by Jim and what I find most concerning, in theory, is if their relationship has soured. I feel Jim has properly and effectively lowered his profile around the UConn program, so if KO is pushing him away that would be troubling and not at all understandable. Coach Calhoun may not be a Ferrari in the garage; but he's a Bentley to be polished and shown/used appropriately.

I would love to know where the evidence lies to back up the ascertain that proves there is a problem with JC and KO....Jacobs? The Boneyard? Where does this conjecture come from....show me the evidence....not Boneyard conjecture....real proof. Anything less is hurtful to the Program, University and the two coaches not to mention the players

 

[KingAG]

1. I said there were similarities to Diaco. And they are clear if you'd open your eyes.

2. Nobody said he stopped caring about his players. I said he preaches love and family - but like Diaco the results scream that they weren't a family. I know 3 of the 5 healthy returning players transferring isn't clue enough for you - but pretty much everyone else gets this.

If you'd just stop emotionally fighting any perceived negative comment about Ollie and actually try reading you'd look less ridiculous in this thread.

You said half the team. I didnt insinuate anything i took you at your word. If you meant returning players than say returning players. I dont fight every negative comment i fight the ignorant ones. And i must say im suprised at you. Your reasoning for comparing ollie to diaco was clear. Ollie also has similarities to great coaches. So why only bring up diaco. Easy, because you were insinuating they were more alike than different. If not then why bring it up? I disagree that ollie and diaco are similar in any significant way

 

[KingAG]

I would love to know where the evidence lies to back up the ascertain that proves there is a problem with JC and KO....Jacobs? The Boneyard? Where does this conjecture come from....show me the evidence....not Boneyard conjecture....real proof. Anything less is hurtful to the Program, University and the two coaches not to mention the players

THER IS NONE! They just spew falsehoods as fact. Its the new thing around here