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4 TOs for a ballhandler against Windsor is alarming. Windsor has those 2 low-major guards, but anything he faces at UConn is going to be a lot more difficult. I'm not sure he would be a great back up PG at all. I see his role being a poor version of Vital if anything.

I don't understand your point. You should see him as a poor version of Vital if anything. That's why he's being recruited by the MAAC and America East instead of the MWC and AAC. The point is not whether we should be recruiting Hunter to come here as a scholarship player. The only point anyone has been making is, especially in a year when we're only going to have 12 scholarships and there are question marks about our depth at the point with our #1 having an injury history, wouldn't it be really nice to have a low D-1 player as a walk on to provide depth and alternatives. To which the answer is almost certainly yes.
 
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4 TOs for a ballhandler against Windsor is alarming. Windsor has those 2 low-major guards, but anything he faces at UConn is going to be a lot more difficult. I'm not sure he would be a great back up PG at all. I see his role being a poor version of Vital if anything.

Kids turn the ball over in HS that number doesn't concern me all that much especially against a Windsor program known for 32 minutes of hell most every year. Thing is if he wants to be here he's an extra guard with some skills and he comes without a tab. Tarin Smith turned it over but his minutes were still pretty big this year, just has to be similar to that. Who knows may get one in a grad transfer still too. This will all depend on whether he wants to come in as an extra or go somewhere and play more. Good luck to him in his decision.
 

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Even bigger public schools recruit kids.
 
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Kids turn the ball over in HS that number doesn't concern me all that much especially against a Windsor program known for 32 minutes of hell most every year. Thing is if he wants to be here he's an extra guard with some skills and he comes without a tab. Tarin Smith turned it over but his minutes were still pretty big this year, just has to be similar to that. Who knows may get one in a grad transfer still too. This will all depend on whether he wants to come in as an extra or go somewhere and play more. Good luck to him in his decision.

Windsor doesn't press really good teams like East Catholic. Primo spears picked up the guard at half court.

Ived seen Jaylin play 5x this year at least. Turnovers are a concern no matter what d1 level hes at.
 
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I don't understand your point. You should see him as a poor version of Vital if anything. That's why he's being recruited by the MAAC and America East instead of the MWC and AAC. The point is not whether we should be recruiting Hunter to come here as a scholarship player. The only point anyone has been making is, especially in a year when we're only going to have 12 scholarships and there are question marks about our depth at the point with our #1 having an injury history, wouldn't it be really nice to have a low D-1 player as a walk on to provide depth and alternatives. To which the answer is almost certainly yes.

Correct. Some guys on here like @UcannUconn are really overestimating this kid. If he comes here, his biggest benefit will be having a better athlete in practice
 
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Even bigger public schools recruit kids.

You can say that by having your own definition of what it means to "recruit," but the point remains that even if your statement is true public schools and private schools play by different rules. The fact that an inner city coach may indirectly get in touch with a kid and wonder if he can move to his school's part of town is no way comparable to a St. Joes (just because I know kids to whom this happened) calling up a good 20 plus miles away and offering him a full ride and a slot on the basketball team.

So why should they be thrown together to compete for championships?
 
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4 TOs for a ballhandler against Windsor is alarming. Windsor has those 2 low-major guards, but anything he faces at UConn is going to be a lot more difficult. I'm not sure he would be a great back up PG at all. I see his role being a poor version of Vital if anything.
Primo Spears probably isn't a low major guard, had an unofficial to Providence the other weekend.
 
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Spears probably isn't a low major guard, had an unofficial to Providence the other weekend.

That's great to hear. He's overcome a ton of adversity in the last few years. I remember him running train on teams when he was in 7th/8th-grade. My AAU guys were around his age at that time. We haven't played the NY Lightning (his aau team) since then that I can remember though.

Gut tells me he's still a low-major guy. Feels like too much of a hot and cold gunner right now. He has the ability to take over, but has also put his team out of games before. I think he could go mid or high but wouldn't play much barring injury. At a lower-tier school he could get a lot more playing time.

Matt Knowling and Jaylin Hunter both looked better to me both times I saw them play this year and they're low major players. But to be fair, I didn't see the game that Primo took off for 40 pts.

I hope we can get CCC kids going to D1s on a regualar basis. Would love to see less power in the hands of preps and private schools.
 

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If the Catholic high schools have such a huge recruitment advantage, how is it that the other Div I Catholic schools aren’t dominating the divisision? It would seem as though there should be, in many years, an all-Catholic final.
I guess there’s no need to consider the coaching ability of East’s head coach, Luke Reilly and the fact that the public schools have, in many cases, twice the enrollment ( East 650, Danbury 2,941, Trumbull 2,151, East Hartford 1,649, etc). It all comes down to unfair recruitment allegations —which are all they are!!

Yeah, I don't get it. Back when I was in HS at Manchester High, we kicked East Catholic's butt at basketball. They are a much smaller school and don't really recruit. MHS had the highest enrollment in the state back then (even with only 3 grades).

The teams that dominated then were the city schools in Hartford, NH and Bridgeport. Wilbur Cross, Hillhouse etc. Has East ever won before?
 

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I actually like how the boys basketball are sorted into divisions, but I don't agree with how teams were distributed.
Primo Spears probably isn't a low major guard, had an unofficial to Providence the other weekend.
I thought Spears was the best prospect on the court. He takes a lot of bad shots, but that can be corrected, and he has plenty of range, ball handling and athletic ability.
 
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I actually like how the boys basketball are sorted into divisions, but I don't agree with how teams were distributed.

I thought Spears was the best prospect on the court. He takes a lot of bad shots, but that can be corrected, and he has plenty of range, ball handling and athletic ability.

Matt knowling had the highest ceiling on the court. He's the only one with real D1 size. 6'5-6' ish, but does need to put on some weight. His passing will be a major asset at any level.

If Primo can check his ego and be a backup, he could be really, really good at the next level.
 

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Yeah, I don't get it. Back when I was in HS at Manchester High, we kicked East Catholic's butt at basketball. They are a much smaller school and don't really recruit. MHS had the highest enrollment in the state back then (even with only 3 grades).

The teams that dominated then were the city schools in Hartford, NH and Bridgeport. Wilbur Cross, Hillhouse etc. Has East ever won before?

1) there is zero chance they don’t recruit. I have friends who were recruited for baseball. Highly doubt basketball didn’t partake.

2) I don’t know if they won, but I was playing during the Johnston zalucki days and they were really good back then too.
 

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Yeah, I don't get it. Back when I was in HS at Manchester High, we kicked East Catholic's butt at basketball. They are a much smaller school and don't really recruit. MHS had the highest enrollment in the state back then (even with only 3 grades).

The teams that dominated then were the city schools in Hartford, NH and Bridgeport. Wilbur Cross, Hillhouse etc. Has East ever won before?
East won Class L in 2016 when Joey Reilly was a freshman. I also believe that team had Mike McGiurl (Kansas State) and Carbone (UNH).
 

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Yeah, I don't get it. Back when I was in HS at Manchester High, we kicked East Catholic's butt at basketball. They are a much smaller school and don't really recruit. MHS had the highest enrollment in the state back then (even with only 3 grades).

The teams that dominated then were the city schools in Hartford, NH and Bridgeport. Wilbur Cross, Hillhouse etc. Has East ever won before?

East didn’t win it all back then. I just looked. But they were still a good program.
 

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1) there is zero chance they don’t recruit. I have friends who were recruited for baseball. Highly doubt basketball didn’t partake.

2) I don’t know if they won, but I was playing during the Johnston zalucki days and they were really good back then too.
East catholic 100% recruits. Back in 2011, they were one of, if not, the worst lacrosse teams in the state. Since 2013 they have sent multiple players D1, and made the Class S semifinals nearly every year. It didn't just happen magically out of nowhere...
 

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1) there is zero chance they don’t recruit. I have friends who were recruited for baseball. Highly doubt basketball didn’t partake.

2) I don’t know if they won, but I was playing during the Johnston zalucki days and they were really good back then too.

Well I graduated HS in 1984. Things were different. East was good at football, but mostly local kids.
 
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I believe many are overestimating the parochial schools ability to fund recruitment. Most if not all are barely breaking even. Of course they make inquiries to players but awarding full scholarships requires an allotment of money that is simply not available beyond a limited number. East may have a greater capacity at the moment but they have a diocese to answer to as well. If what many of you are saying is factual then both South and Acquinas would still exist.
 
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I believe many are overestimating the parochial schools ability to fund recruitment. Most if not all are barely breaking even. Of course they make inquiries to players but awarding full scholarships requires an allotment of money that is simply not available beyond a limited number. East may have a greater capacity at the moment but they have a diocese to answer to as well. If what many of you are saying is factual then both South and Acquinas would still exist.

Not EVERYONE is getting money. I would think that Jaylin is not because his father makes 300+k a year. It's not much of a concern. Reilly probably is at the school for free because of his father. Knowling? Wouldn't be surprised. McGuirl two years ago? Yes. Trey Hall--definitely.

I know at least 3 kids on the lacrosse team are getting half their tuition paid. One I am 100% sure is.

Better athletics are one of the main reasons these schools exist. Kids in public schools are fighting to get the chance at playing for a parochial school every day. I've had players disappointed when Reilly told them they weren't good enough.
 
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Primo Spears and Windsor's other good guard--McKeenan or something?--are both juniors too. They could be really, really really good next year.
 
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Not EVERYONE is getting money. I would think that Jaylin is not because his father makes 300+k a year. It's not much of a concern. Reilly probably is at the school for free because of his father. Knowling? Wouldn't be surprised. McGuirl two years ago? Yes. Trey Hall--definitely.

I know at least 3 kids on the lacrosse team are getting half their tuition paid. One I am 100% sure is.

Better athletics are one of the main reasons these schools exist. Kids in public schools are fighting to get the chance at playing for a parochial school every day. I've had players disappointed when Reilly told them they weren't good enough.
Again, I said, "beyond a limited number" not everyone AND that East may have a "greater capacity at the moment" but don't let me ruin your narrative of making the exception the rule.
 
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There is no easy solution to this and it's not just a private vs. public school issue. There are rules in place that are meant to benefit students and provide academic opportunities that are being exploited by coaches and administrators for athletic purposes. It's unfortunate and some of the public schools and lottery based schools are exploiting it just as much as the private schools. When I was coaching at a Class S school we got destroyed by a magnet school in the state tournament before they got bumped and the Principal was in the stands openly bragging about what they had coming in the following year. How do you know that in an "open lottery"?

It all comes down to how dedicated each individual school and coach is but they find scholarships when needed and the coaches put in the time at their own expense to find players either at camps, in their AAU programs, or openly scouting. When you see an opposing varsity coach who happens to coach at a school of choice, at a random middle school or JV game you know they aren't there just for their love of basketball and they get to justify it because a kid "might want to play on their AAU team" or "went to my camp."

There are just too many layers to this problem that no matter what divisions they create and rules they put in place schools and coaches will find a way around it unless you eliminate any choice programs, which would hurt students. As a coach you have to build up your own credibility so players want to play for you and stay in your program.
 
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When you have a great coach who achieves success I think that success builds upon itself. It’s just natural that the best players in the greater Hartford area are going to want to go to East Catholic when they see the program’s winning tradition and track record of putting kids in college programs year after year. I’m not so sure it’s recruiting I think it’s just that success starts to build upon itself. Not to mention parents see all these kids from East getting college scholarships and that certainly makes it an attractive place for your star eighth grader to go play basketball.
 
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Not EVERYONE is getting money. I would think that Jaylin is not because his father makes 300+k a year. It's not much of a concern. Reilly probably is at the school for free because of his father. Knowling? Wouldn't be surprised. McGuirl two years ago? Yes. Trey Hall--definitely.

I know at least 3 kids on the lacrosse team are getting half their tuition paid. One I am 100% sure is.

Better athletics are one of the main reasons these schools exist. Kids in public schools are fighting to get the chance at playing for a parochial school every day. I've had players disappointed when Reilly told them they weren't good enough.

Reilly's at EC cause his dad coaches at Wesleyan? Joe is paying for Joey to go to EC.once again you put Luke at any school in the state and he wins. No doubt about it.
 
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Reilly's at EC cause his dad coaches at Wesleyan? Joe is paying for Joey to go to EC.once again you put Luke at any school in the state and he wins. No doubt about it.

Yes, because hes a great coach. Might take a while at the real dump schools.

There cant be a doubt that he has benefitted immensely from being able to pull kids from all over.
 
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Fail to see how it differs from the ability for city students to move about - New Haven/Hamden, Hartford, Waterbury, etc. The Catholic schools do not have recruiting budgets, East is simply riding a wave of popularity at the moment. High probability they will come down to earth next year. School choice is a good thing and makes D1 basketball fun to watch. Congrats to East, Windsor had a great year.
Def riding a wave of popularity. They sucked when I was in high school. I went to Xavier. Go by the size of the school, like they pretty much do now.
 

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