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Javonte Brown-Ferguson on campus already

Dooooooomed said:
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“I don’t have any more visits planned. I canceled all my visits and I closed my recruiting,” he said Monday morning by phone from Canada.“I’m going to announce soon,” he said. “I have to figure out a date.”

“The UConn visit was great,” he said. “The whole vibe was different over there. You could tell the vibe is different. Those guys are ready to win. I could tell they had a couple bad years before but all those guys are ready to win and they’re ready for a big upcoming.”

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(Still doomed.)
 
I am not criticizing the insiders, but my true feeling on these posts is this: I give them almost no weight at all these days.
 
UConnStats said:
I would love to get more video of him soon. Not much out there right now.
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There is so little on him and the couple of videos of him where he looks awkward are around 2 years old when he was probably 14. Don't think he's a great athlete but he's still just 16, massive wingspan, good touch. For the amount of top schools who have offered him and for Corey Evans to have scouted him and said he would place him around top 50 area for 2020 if he was ranking him means there is a whole lot to work with.
 
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Rocktheworld said:
Nice to read that we certainly don’t have the issue of parents whispering in his ear to go elsewhere... they seem to like proximity and MSG
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if proximity to MSG was one of the biggest factors then i'm glad hes not visiting marquette or indiana.

zags isnt really in the prediction game. dont think he's prone to going out on a limb. to give one he needs to be pretty confident
 
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BGesus4 said:
Staff seems to be really great in communicating with the kids on OVs... excited about the implications of that in years to come
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Nah! It was first night. We had casual alum Kemba and could get casual recruit.
 
superjohn said:
There is so little on him and the couple of videos of him where he looks awkward are around 2 years old when he was probably 14. Don't think he's a great athlete but he's still just 16, massive wingspan, good touch. For the amount of top schools who have offered him and for Corey Evans to have scouted him and said he would place him around top 50 area for 2020 if he was ranking him means there is a whole lot to work with.
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His offers vs Cardwells make a world of difference. Kansas, Zona, A&M, Marquette, georgetown, indiana, seton hall, etc. Not an easy recruitment.

He's a year younger than everyone else in 2020, 15 months younger than Cardwell and 13 younger than Cliff I believe. Freshman year (with the good guys, hopefully) he is bound to be weak and awkward. Sophomore will be the year to really compare him to past freshman. Tbh I'm not so sure why he's going 2020--he needs development.

I mentioned in a PM with stats and bfield the other day that his production is VERY similar to cliff for his aau season at 16 yrs old. Cliff was stronger, but javontes touch around ghe basket seems better.

Doomed
 
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superjohn said:
There is so little on him and the couple of videos of him where he looks awkward are around 2 years old when he was probably 14. Don't think he's a great athlete but he's still just 16, massive wingspan, good touch. For the amount of top schools who have offered him and for Corey Evans to have scouted him and said he would place him around top 50 area for 2020 if he was ranking him means there is a whole lot to work with.
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I still think top 50 is a stretch, just cuz that’s around where Cliff is and I think he’s much more talented. Top 75-100 would make more sense to me, with the upside as a bonus.
 
A year with Sal is worth a lot more to a kid than a year with a high school phys ed teacher. If they didn't have Carlton likely coming back next year I would be worried about bringing in someone we know is young and assume is raw. In this scenario, i love taking the high upside kid over the more developed, lower ceiling guy. Hopefully they can close the deal.
 
UConn3432 said:
A year with Sal is worth a lot more to a kid than a year with a high school phys ed teacher. If they didn't have Carlton likely coming back next year I would be worried about bringing in someone we know is young and assume is raw. In this scenario, i love taking the high upside kid over the more developed, lower ceiling guy. Hopefully they can close the deal.
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This is how I've been viewing it and why I slightly preferred Javonte Brown Ferguson to Cardwell. Carlton is going to be a monster as a senior and will play a lot of minutes. Whaley and Springs are still here too. Whaley beefing up and Springs coming late really helped allow us to go with upside vs. immediate impact.

So this feels like the Akok situation to me. Get him in here, coach him up, get him a year with Sal to beef up and he should be a key contributor by Sophomore year. He can still get spot duty as a freshman for experience.
 

Kid needs to get stronger, I definitely see why high majors see a lot of upside though. But in this game he didnt physically dominate anyone and the kids he is playing against do not seem very good at all.

One thing I liked is that his HS coach is using him at the high post and having him set screens in the pick and roll which is exactly how Hurley would use him.

As of now I see this kid more as a big body rather than a rebounding big though, hope that changes with time and strength.
 
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husky429 said:
His offers vs Cardwells make a world of difference. Kansas, Zona, A&M, Marquette, georgetown, indiana, seton hall, etc. Not an easy recruitment.

He's a year younger than everyone else in 2020, 15 months younger than Cardwell and 13 younger than Cliff I believe. Freshman year (with the good guys, hopefully) he is bound to be weak and awkward. Sophomore will be the year to really compare him to past freshman. Tbh I'm not so sure why he's going 2020--he needs development.

I mentioned in a PM with stats and bfield the other day that his production is VERY similar to cliff for his aau season at 16 yrs old. Cliff was stronger, but javontes touch around ghe basket seems better.

Doomed
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If he needs development, why wouldn't he re-class? He'll develop better at UConn than in high school. He'll get college experience practicing against and backing up Carlton then take over.
 
pj said:
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If he needs development, why wouldn't he re-class? He'll develop better at UConn than in high school. He'll get college experience practicing against and backing up Carlton then take over.
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There's a reason many, if not most, d1 players stay back a year. An extra year in hs helps them to fill out and gain more game experience so theyre more prepared tp contribute in college. I'm surprised you dont find that obvious.

Javonte Brown Ferguson probably doesnt consider himself a 4 year player. So saving eligibility years might be less important than it would be for others
 
husky429 said:
There's a reason many, if not most, d1 players stay back a year. An extra year in hs helps them to fill out and gain more game experience so theyre more prepared tp contribute in college. I'm surprised you dont find that obvious.

Javonte Brown Ferguson probably doesnt consider himself a 4 year player. So saving eligibility years might be less important than it would be for others
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I'm saying that if he re-classes to 2020 and plays 4 years in college, he'll be better off than if he stays 2021 and plays 3 years in college. Because he'll have an extra year of college experience. "An extra year in hs helps them to fill out and gain more game experience" -- an extra year in college does the same, but more so. That was why Akok moved early from prep school to college. It's smart for Javonte Brown Ferguson to do the same.
 
pj said:
I'm saying that if he re-classes to 2020 and plays 4 years in college, he'll be better off than if he stays 2021 and plays 3 years in college. Because he'll have an extra year of college experience. "An extra year in hs helps them to fill out and gain more game experience" -- an extra year in college does the same, but more so. That was why Akok moved early from prep school to college. It's smart for Javonte Brown Ferguson to do the same.
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Okay, so you're assuming he's not a 4 year player. It makes sense in that case.
 
Seeing some of the game footage makes it much easier to see why we prioritized him. He's huge, looks functional in the post, decent form on shot, seems like a good teammate, etc..there is a lot to work with here.
 
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Sorry guys, I've got nothing on this one.

But all signs seem to be pointing to this being a good thing. After this, they can basically pick and choose whatever they want to go after... Would be huge to scratch this position off the list.
 
husky429 said:
Okay, so you're assuming he's not a 4 year player. It makes sense in that case.
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No, I'm arguing that regardless of how many years he plays in college, he'll be better off getting to college earlier.

I'm assuming that if he reclasses to 2020 and plays 4 years in college, he'll be able to play somewhere professionally, and will be better off in the 2024-25 season playing professionally somewhere rather than playing that same year as a senior at UConn, after having spent the 2020-21 season playing high school ball rather than as a freshman at UConn.

I'm actually making a similar argument to the one you made for Donovan Clingan going to prep school. Kids will advance their bball careers better by playing at a higher level and receiving better coaching. In Javonte Brown Ferguson's case, that means spending next year at UConn rather than in high school.
 
pj said:
No, I'm arguing that regardless of how many years he plays in college, he'll be better off getting to college earlier.

I'm assuming that if he reclasses to 2020 and plays 4 years in college, he'll be able to play somewhere professionally, and will be better off in the 2024-25 season playing professionally somewhere rather than playing that same year as a senior at UConn, after having spent the 2020-21 season playing high school ball rather than at UConn.
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The only reason these guys stay back is to get better offers. If they can get a spot at a program they like with a clear path to playing time, especially if it puts them in a major conference with high-end exposure and a location that's convenient for their families, there's no reason to wait around.

I have no specific information about Javonte Brown Ferguson, but the fact that his other two options already have 2020 4-star bigs makes me think that he's already decided and we've got this one.
 
pj said:
No, I'm arguing that regardless of how many years he plays in college, he'll be better off getting to college earlier.

I'm assuming that if he reclasses to 2020 and plays 4 years in college, he'll be able to play somewhere professionally, and will be better off in the 2024-25 season playing professionally somewhere rather than playing that same year as a senior at UConn, after having spent the 2020-21 season playing high school ball rather than as a freshman at UConn.

I'm actually making a similar argument to the one you made for Donovan Clingan going to prep school. Kids will advance their bball careers better by playing at a higher level and receiving better coaching. In Javonte Brown Ferguson's case, that means spending next year at UConn rather than in high school.
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Gotcha. Judging by his teammates skill level and the competition I'm seeing in that full-game video, I think I've gotta agree. Staying in the USA at a prep probably would have been the best bet this year. His team has some good players, but not high-major bound guys. They don't even know how to pass to him. Turnovers galore feeding the post.
 
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