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IMO Ice & Aaliyah are forwards. UConn can certainly get by with either of them playing center vs BE teams and many P5 programs around the country. But when the Huskies face the towering front lines of SC or Stanford, I think it’s essential that they have a true center in the lineup.
The idea of having two guards, two forwards and a post player doesn't exist anymore in today's game and hasn't for awhile. Stewie wasn't a post player but she played in the post neither was Dolson.
 
Can she be put on team so we have 7 eligible players, but not play 1 second and not burn a year?
 
The idea of having two guards, two forwards and a post player doesn't exist anymore in today's game and hasn't for awhile. Stewie wasn't a post player but she played in the post neither was Dolson.
I agree, but that’s not really my point. UConn needs a Big who can match up with opposing Bigs in order to win another championship. Aaliyah is an incredibly talented and physical player who can bang in the lane with anybody. But I am not comfortable with having her match up for an entire game with the likes of Boston, Brink or another true Big. Both Stewie & Steph could match up favorably with any Big in the country. I just don’t see UConn winning another championship without a true Big or two in the lineup.
 
ice is a post not a forward. Her game will merge well with 'Liya
In HS Ice was typically the biggest & strongest player on the court. Once healthy, we’ll see how she does in college. But at 6’3” she will play against a lot of teams with players bigger than she is and just as strong.
 
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Isn't a forward and a post the same thing?
You know there's this trend to rename things when in reality nothing has changed at all. For example, the term 'wing'. That's a forward with just a better jump shot and maybe ball-handling skills. There's the term "positionless" basketball. Again, that just points to players having more advanced skill sets than what was traditionally associated with a position. There's "stretch" 4, 5...bigs that can hit a mid to long-range jump shot. Sure, it changes the dynamics of the offense and defensive strategies, but it's still a forward or center. If a team plays "small ball" with 5 guards, it doesn't magically make 3 of the guards...a center and 2 wings or forwards. I think it's just mixing adjectives and calling them nouns.
 
There are a lot of positives to be gleaned here.

The major one is that she will have a full 9-10 months to get acclimated, train, and learn before she plays a minute of college basketball.

I think there is virtually no chance she plays this season. It makes no sense to me that they would burn a year of her eligibility under the circumstances.

What is being overlooked here is that this will give the coaching staff a great opportunity to assess what she will likely bring for 2023-2024 and beyond. They will get a better idea of what position she plays, can she run the floor, bang inside, etc.

That will impact how they recruit at the high school level position-wise. It may also impact whether they feel the need to get a one year portal player for 2023-2024 to provide insurance and experience at the center position.
 
There are a lot of positives to be gleaned here.

The major one is that she will have a full 9-10 months to get acclimated, train, and learn before she plays a minute of college basketball.

I think there is virtually no chance she plays this season. It makes no sense to me that they would burn a year of her eligibility under the circumstances.

What is being overlooked here is that this will give the coaching staff a great opportunity to assess what she will likely bring for 2023-2024 and beyond. They will get a better idea of what position she plays, can she run the floor, bang inside, etc.

That will impact how they recruit at the high school level position-wise. It may also impact whether they feel the need to get a one year portal player for 2023-2024 to provide insurance and experience at the center position.
From the recent videos I have seen of the FIBA U18 tournament, there is no doubt that Jana can run the floor. She also possesses a nice shooting touch around the lane with both hands, and the ability to put the ball on the floor. Not sure about her shooting range just yet, but she clearly is an exceptionally skilled Big with a tremendous upside.
 
Playing center is not always measured by height, sometimes it's measured with the fight.
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I would rephrase the conversation. Against the top teams like South Carolina with true centers, we need someone who can guard someone like Boston. Doesn't matter that their offensive skills or Geno indicates they are a forward. Likely need 2 with this defensive skill set since underneath, fouls ten to mount up.
 
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Ralph's question above is an interesting one....sure hope it won't be necessary to employ that
tactic....even if Geno has zero intent to use it. It does seem that she would theoretically be 'eligible' to play
every single game....no?
 
Some thoughts on Jana. It was reported shes 17 yrs old and on her way here. I would think she would need to learn UConns system and I ask the question is she ready right now to step in and could she make a difference. We already have Dorka Aaliyah Aubrey and Amari down low. Im dont know if she is an impact player but at 17 yrs old I would think she may need some time to adjust to American WCBB. We've had many tall players come here who are very talented who struggled their first year and that was with having the summer to get ready. My thoughts would be that unless Jana is an impact player and can contribute right away it might be best to have her practice with the team and be ready to go next season. Dorka graduates and Caroline Amari Ice Patterson Sammuels and Jana will all be vying for her position.
 
Prosper came in early for ND, and she is not using up a year of eligibility. They've talked about this several times during games.
Why would it be any different for ELAlfy?
That is very interesting, she should lose a year, but if not, why?
I don't think this is accurate. Haven't seen any articles indicating that she retains her full four years. @Dillon77 can correct me if I'm wrong here, but anyone I've talked too was surprised Prosper decided to enroll early because of this.
 
Didn't Miles enroll early (2020), played in the Irish's last six games, and still retain Freshman eligibility for the 2021 season? She's listed as a sophomore and this is her third season. Is it the low number of games or covid related?
 
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Let's hold up a second and look fully into Jana El Afly (a 6'4" or 6' 5" big body) enrolling early into UCONN and what her eligibility "Might Be" if she is allowed to suit up and play on the team for the remainder of this spring season. FIRST, at Notre Dame, Cassandre Prosper, graduated early from her High School, and was allowed by the NCAA and the University of Notre Dame, to enroll early (just like Olivia Miles was able to do) and to be able to play this spring, for the team, "WITHOUT" losing/giving up any of her 4 years of eligibility. Prosper will hav 4 "Full Years" of eligibility left after the conclusion of this current season of basketball, to compete for Notre Dame (confirmed this with the ND Athletic Department). Thus, provided the NCAA given UCONN a waiver and allows Jana El Alfy to enroll in Spring Classes at UCONN and also allows her to suit up and play for the team, for the remainder of this current season, she will NOT lose any of her 4 years of eligibility after the conclusion of this current season. BUT, all of this needs to be cleared first by both the UCONN Athletic Department and the NCAA.

 
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I could be wrong, but she could still use a covid year right? so even if she plays this season, she could still use the covid extra year, which will still give her 4 years. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what they will do
No, she wasn’t playing college basketball in 2020.

A few thoughts:

I really like El Alfey as a person. She seems to have a wonderful sense of priorities and goals. I feel as if she will be someone who will represent the program. Well, long after her college career has ended.

Jana is a center. I am not sure how much a freshman, big without any college experience who hasn’t gone through preseason conditioning can help this team.

I do think that joining the program early can be very helpful and give her a head start on next season. We’ve seen mixed results with that at UConn. I think it likely contributed to a former players sense of alienation given that everyone knows everyone in there is no one in that same position of just joining the team. On the other hand, it worked out fabulously well for Alex Karaban on the men’s team who is a starter this year.

I often roll my eyes at the seemingly random comparisons of new players to current or past Connecticut players, but I find myself wondering if she can have a Donovan Clingan-like impact on the team next year. He was a 17-year-old 7’2” “project” who is making a good argument that he might be the best player on the team. Now, I fully recognize that that’s a crazy comparison and an unrealistic and unfair expectation, But Jana may have a meaningful impact as a freshman, given her size and athleticism.
 
Let's hold up a second and look fully into Jana El Afly (a 6'4" or 6' 5" big body) enrolling early into UCONN and what her eligibility "Might Be" if she is allowed to suit up and play on the team for the remainder of this spring season. FIRST, at Notre Dame, Cassandre Prosper, graduated early from her High School, and was allowed by the NCAA and the University of Notre Dame, to enroll early (just like Olivia Miles was able to do) and to be able to play this spring, for the team, "WITHOUT" losing/giving up any of her 4 years of eligibility. Prosper will hav 4 "Full Years" of eligibility left after the conclusion of this current season of basketball, to compete for Notre Dame (confirmed this with the ND Athletic Department). Thus, provided the NCAA given UCONN a waiver and allows Jana El Alfy to enroll in Spring Classes at UCONN and also allows her to suit up and play for the team, for the remainder of this current season, she will NOT lose any of her 4 years of eligibility after the conclusion of this current season. BUT, all of this needs to be cleared first by both the UCONN Athletic Department and the NCAA.


Was this under the Covid rules-- because the same was true for Saylor Poffenbarger-- but I assumed the NCAA rules had reverted.
 
. FIRST, at Notre Dame, Cassandre Prosper, graduated early from her High School, and was allowed by the NCAA and the University of Notre Dame, to enroll early (just like Olivia Miles was able to do) and to be able to play this spring, for the team, "WITHOUT" losing/giving up any of her 4 years of eligibility. Prosper will hav 4 "Full Years" of eligibility left after the conclusion of this current season of basketball, to compete for Notre Dame (confirmed this with the ND Athletic Department).

Can you cite any reference that states she did not use up a year of eligibility the moment she plays in a game this season? I keep seeing this stated but I haven't seen any reference to any NCAA ruling that overrides the basic eligibility rules. Anyone have a reference/link to that?
 
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I don't think this is accurate. Haven't seen any articles indicating that she retains her full four years. @Dillon77 can correct me if I'm wrong here, but anyone I've talked too was surprised Prosper decided to enroll early because of this.


Prosper is definitely using up a year of her eligibility. Not sure who would say otherwise - and they would be wrong.
 
Can you cite any reference that states she did not use up a year of eligibility the moment she plays in a game this season? I keep seeing this stated but I haven't seen any reference to any NCAA ruling that overrides the basic eligibility rules. Anyone have a reference/link to that?
This is my thought too; Prosper joined ND mid-season, but that's one year of eligibility. Again, I think the only exception to that was the 20-21 season, due to Covid.
 
Didn't Miles enroll early (2020), played in the Irish's last six games, and still retain Freshman eligibility for the 2021 season? She's listed as a sophomore and this is her third season. Is it the low number of games or covid related?
Poffenabarger, Miles, etc...who came in early during the 2020 season...get a free year. This site below has a straight forward explanation on the bottom right.

NCAA Extra Year of Eligibility
 
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Let's hold up a second and look fully into Jana El Afly (a 6'4" or 6' 5" big body) enrolling early into UCONN and what her eligibility "Might Be" if she is allowed to suit up and play on the team for the remainder of this spring season. FIRST, at Notre Dame, Cassandre Prosper, graduated early from her High School, and was allowed by the NCAA and the University of Notre Dame, to enroll early (just like Olivia Miles was able to do) and to be able to play this spring, for the team, "WITHOUT" losing/giving up any of her 4 years of eligibility. Prosper will hav 4 "Full Years" of eligibility left after the conclusion of this current season of basketball, to compete for Notre Dame (confirmed this with the ND Athletic Department). Thus, provided the NCAA given UCONN a waiver and allows Jana El Alfy to enroll in Spring Classes at UCONN and also allows her to suit up and play for the team, for the remainder of this current season, she will NOT lose any of her 4 years of eligibility after the conclusion of this current season. BUT, all of this needs to be cleared first by both the UCONN Athletic Department and the NCAA.

The above is not correct.
 
No, she wasn’t playing college basketball in 2020.

A few thoughts:

I really like El Alfey as a person. She seems to have a wonderful sense of priorities and goals. I feel as if she will be someone who will represent the program. Well, long after her college career has ended.

Jana is a center. I am not sure how much a freshman, big without any college experience who hasn’t gone through preseason conditioning can help this team.

I do think that joining the program early can be very helpful and give her a head start on next season. We’ve seen mixed results with that at UConn. I think it likely contributed to a former players sense of alienation given that everyone knows everyone in there is no one in that same position of just joining the team. On the other hand, it worked out fabulously well for Alex Karaban on the men’s team who is a starter this year.

I often roll my eyes at the seemingly random comparisons of new players to current or past Connecticut players, but I find myself wondering if she can have a Donovan Clingan-like impact on the team next year. He was a 17-year-old 7’2” “project” who is making a good argument that he might be the best player on the team. Now, I fully recognize that that’s a crazy comparison and an unrealistic and unfair expectation, But Jana may have a meaningful impact as a freshman, given her size and athleticism.
She has been playing the season in Egypt (I think that they posted a picture of her warming up before their game on Saturday) so she should be in at least as good condition as anyone else on her old team.
 
Under normal NCAA rules in basketball, playing any games during the second half of a college season makes that year count as a full season of the four, which means if Jana (or any other early enrollee) plays this spring she will only have 3 more years of eligibilty. Those are the rules.

Not exactly. In most cases, if an athlete plays even one second of ANY game, they use up a year of eligibility. Doesn't matter if it's first game, first half, second half, last game etc - playing ANY game counts. The second half rule ONLY applies in applying for a medical hardship waiver (often mistakenly called a redshirt). In applying for this waiver, a player cannot have played at all in the second half of the year (and also cannot have played in more than 30% of a team's games.
 
She has been playing the season in Egypt (I think that they posted a picture of her warming up before their game on Saturday) so she should be in at least as good condition as anyone else on her old team.
As a rule, being in shape for high school, and being in shape for college are dramatically different things. That’s a truism that reaches across all sports.

Particularly at the University of Connecticut, though, we’ve heard numerous stories about how players “thought” they were “working hard” only to learn a new meaning of those words. One of the things Auriemma does exceptionally well is teaching players had to push through perceived limits.
 
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