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I've watched video on Jackson, Ali, Adams, Briscoe.. forgot 1,2,3, combo guard, scoring guard, whatever.. on film, Adams is the best PLAYER
 
You really make no sense. I'm not here to argue like a lot of people are doing lately.KO has offered a bunch load of kids. And MY opinion is Jalen Adams is the best pg that we are after.

I just have a quick question for you and anyone else talking about the eyeball test. How many times have you actually seen these kids play? Like full games, not an all star game of some sort and not a highlight tape? Because my true eyeball test tells me Briscoe is special and Jalen Adams is a nice player. Without getting into all the reasons I love Briscoe I'll say that I feel Jalen Adams is no more than Jerome Dyson all over again.

Adams is a small 2 guard; extremely rarely does he play PG for either Cushing or Mass Rivals. He can defend the point but is currently not able to control an offense like Briscoe, or even Brunson can. Adams is an elite scorer and would be great in an Ollie backcourt alongside a true point but don't expect him to come in and run the show.
 
I've watched video on Jackson, Ali, Adams, Briscoe.. forgot 1,2,3, combo guard, scoring guard, whatever.. on film, Adams is the best PLAYER

Film is supposed to make players look good. It's how they market themselves. No one looks bad in their highlight tapes.
 
I think JA's coach's comments reflect his own concerns with competition at the position more than JA's. At 3:44 in this interview JA is asked about playing time and he responds by saying "best man gets the spot." No shortage of confidence with this kid, he believes he's the best man.

 
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Film is supposed to make players look good. It's how they market themselves. No one looks bad in their highlight tapes.

True but his film looks better than everyone else's.. Briscoe does a lot of dribbling to not really go anywhere with the ball. Adams' handle is as good but he doesn't do a lot of unnecessary dribbling. He gets his advantage and he's gone on the attack. Don't get me wrong, they're all good players but Adams looks to me to be the best of the bunch.
 
True but his film looks better than everyone else's.. Briscoe does a lot of dribbling to not really go anywhere with the ball. Adams' handle is as good but he doesn't do a lot of unnecessary dribbling. He gets his advantage and he's gone on the attack. Don't get me wrong, they're all good players but Adams looks to me to be the best of the bunch.

For starters, Adams handle is not as good as Briscoe's.

As for the unnecessary dribbling; well that's the highlight tape. Brisoce's strength is his handle so the tape shows it off. Adams strength is his ability to attack; his tape shows that.

Adams is an exceptional scorer and will be a great player. But Briscoe can be special, great leadership skills and he's a competitor; does all those extra things to win games that you'll never see on a highlight tape.
 
For starters, Adams handle is not as good as Briscoe's.

As for the unnecessary dribbling; well that's the highlight tape. Brisoce's strength is his handle so the tape shows it off. Adams strength is his ability to attack; his tape shows that.

Adams is an exceptional scorer and will be a great player. But Briscoe can be special, great leadership skills and he's a competitor; does all those extra things to win games that you'll never see on a highlight tape.

So that wasn't an actual basketball game they were playing in (Briscoe)? He did a lot of unnecessary dribbling just for the sake of dribbling. But if it was some kinda exhibition, then I guess I see. In an actual basketball game, all that over-dribbling is useless and does nothing but eat up shot clock.
 
I just have a quick question for you and anyone else talking about the eyeball test. How many times have you actually seen these kids play? Like full games, not an all star game of some sort and not a highlight tape? Because my true eyeball test tells me Briscoe is special and Jalen Adams is a nice player. Without getting into all the reasons I love Briscoe I'll say that I feel Jalen Adams is no more than Jerome Dyson all over again.

Adams is a small 2 guard; extremely rarely does he play PG for either Cushing or Mass Rivals. He can defend the point but is currently not able to control an offense like Briscoe, or even Brunson can. Adams is an elite scorer and would be great in an Ollie backcourt alongside a true point but don't expect him to come in and run the show.
Didn't Jalen hit a game winning 3 pointer for a championship? But the kid isn't special? I remember Boat was more of a scoring PG coming in too. Under Kevin Ollie he has turned into a pretty good distributer at PG. Jalen is the #1 target for me. It doesn't really matter that Briscoe might be more of a true PG at this point because after a year or 2 under Ollie Jalen will have developed those skills to go along with his amazing athleticism and great skill set already. Jalen can be an All American top 10 pick after two years under Ollie. We have Terrence Samuels to run true point for one year and it wouldn't be anything for Jalen to slide over after.

Starting 5 in 2015
Samuels
Adams
Calhoun/Ali/Hamilton (pending on who stays and goes)
Facey
Brimah
 
So that wasn't an actual basketball game they were playing in (Briscoe)? He did a lot of unnecessary dribbling just for the sake of dribbling. But if it was some kinda exhibition, then I guess I see. In an actual basketball game, all that over-dribbling is useless and does nothing but eat up shot clock.

Not defending Briscoe over Adams because I'm a big Adams fan as well, nor the extent of dribbling, just wanted to point out that there were some big time faces in the Briscoe highlights. I believe Mr. Oubre was owned at one point.
 
Brisoce's strength is his handle so the tape shows it off . . . .
But Briscoe can be special, great leadership skills and he's a competitor; does all those extra things to win games that you'll never see on a highlight tape.

I think you really overrate the kid. He's a nice player, but his strength is literally his strength. I wonder how much upside a kid like Briscoe has at the college level. I don't have that same question about Adams. I'm also curious as to how you know that Briscoe has all these intangibles (leadership, etc.) while Adams, et al. don't. Having seen them each play a couple times, and with a sense of what Ollie's trying to put together, I'd take Adams 10 times out of 10.
 
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I'd take Briscoe because I think he's more of a combo guard, and he seems to be a better pick and roll player.

There's something to be said about having a potential point guard that can score well from all three levels.
 
I just have a quick question for you and anyone else talking about the eyeball test. How many times have you actually seen these kids play? Like full games, not an all star game of some sort and not a highlight tape? Because my true eyeball test tells me Briscoe is special and Jalen Adams is a nice player. Without getting into all the reasons I love Briscoe I'll say that I feel Jalen Adams is no more than Jerome Dyson all over again.

Adams is a small 2 guard; extremely rarely does he play PG for either Cushing or Mass Rivals. He can defend the point but is currently not able to control an offense like Briscoe, or even Brunson can. Adams is an elite scorer and would be great in an Ollie backcourt alongside a true point but don't expect him to come in and run the show.
Not taking sides, but I would take that as a compliment. A healthy Dyson was a special player.
 
Film is supposed to make players look good. It's how they market themselves. No one looks bad in their highlight tapes.

I get that but I also feel I know what to look for………and in film Briscoe looks slower and less athletic by far to me so I'm not sure who his film editor is but they need to do a better job. You seem to have seen him in person and know a little more so I'll give you that, but Adams has more game according to what I see.
 
Adams look GREAT and pair him w/ Ali and Turtle, we're good.

Personally, I wish we would have waited w/ Turtle and would have preferred an Adams and Brunson combo paired with Ali. That's a super dangerous 3 headed guard rotation.

I'm concerned a bit about Turtle as he seems to have fallen off some and not playing like a top recruit in recent AAU games.
 
I'm concerned a bit about Turtle as he seems to have fallen off some and not playing like a top recruit in recent AAU games.

I'm purely speculating here, and basing this on experience. He may have nothing to play for right now. Its like working your last 2 weeks awaiting your next job to start. No need to impress the boss or court others, your set until the next gig, so very little to prove.

Its not an uncommon attitude and just maybe he's just waiting to get on campus. I'm not saying he's not motivated but just saying I wouldn't read too much into this, unless of course its December of his freshman year. However this is just speculation as I've been known to be off base at times.
 
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Adams is a small 2 guard; extremely rarely does he play PG for either Cushing or Mass Rivals. He can defend the point but is currently not able to control an offense like Briscoe, or even Brunson can. Adams is an elite scorer and would be great in an Ollie backcourt alongside a true point but don't expect him to come in and run the show.
He'd be coming in with Samuel and Cassell as juniors, so he wouldn't be expected to run the show.

FWIW, I don't have a dog in this fight - I'd be happy with Adams, Briscoe, Brunson, Newman or anyone else Ollie picks. We've become BackCourt U, and whoever puts on a Husky jersey is going to become elite.
 
He'd be coming in with Samuel and Cassell as juniors, so he wouldn't be expected to run the show.

FWIW, I don't have a dog in this fight - I'd be happy with Adams, Briscoe, Brunson, Newman or anyone else Ollie picks. We've become BackCourt U, and whoever puts on a Husky jersey is going to become elite.

It's funny. UConn seems to have gone through a cycle here. Back in the mid to late 1980s until Ray Allen showed up on campus, Uconn was mainly about the backcourt. Even with Cliff Robinson there, you had Earl Kelley, Nadav Henefeld, Chris Smith, Tate George, Doron Sheffer, Kevin Ollie.

Then it became wing U. with Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton, Caron Butler, Ben Gordon, Rudy Gay.

Somewhere in the mid to late 2000s, UConn strung along a bunch of big men with Emeka Okafor, Josh Boone, Hilton Armstrong, Hasheem Thabeet, and even Alex Oriakhi and Andre Drummond were going to continue that tradition.

Now we're looking at the dominance of the guards again, as AJ Price was our best player going into the F4 in '09, Dyson was the second best until he was hurt, Kemba Walker was our best in 2011 with help from Jeremy Lamb on the wing, and then Shabazz and Boatright, with Purvis and a bunch of other guards in the wings.

I think this means that Daniel Hamilton is going to dominate college basketball and kick off the next wing cycle at UConn.
 
For starters, Adams handle is not as good as Briscoe's.

As for the unnecessary dribbling; well that's the highlight tape. Brisoce's strength is his handle so the tape shows it off. Adams strength is his ability to attack; his tape shows that.

Adams is an exceptional scorer and will be a great player. But Briscoe can be special, great leadership skills and he's a competitor; does all those extra things to win games that you'll never see on a highlight tape.

Briscoe made me think of a bigger Khalid in a way, a bit more of a hot dog. No way to tell from those videos who could run the point...If Briscoe has the "it" factor, then let's hope we get him. From one brief video, Briscoe looked quick but maybe a little land-bound (as in not a great leaper). I am ready to be completely wrong, but that was an impression. The need for a quarterback is the biggest thing we have to have to compete at a very high level, IMHO.
 
I just have a quick question for you and anyone else talking about the eyeball test. How many times have you actually seen these kids play? Like full games, not an all star game of some sort and not a highlight tape? Because my true eyeball test tells me Briscoe is special and Jalen Adams is a nice player. Without getting into all the reasons I love Briscoe I'll say that I feel Jalen Adams is no more than Jerome Dyson all over again.

Adams is a small 2 guard; extremely rarely does he play PG for either Cushing or Mass Rivals. He can defend the point but is currently not able to control an offense like Briscoe, or even Brunson can. Adams is an elite scorer and would be great in an Ollie backcourt alongside a true point but don't expect him to come in and run the show.
Briscoe is a really nice player,everything u said about him seems true but I just see a lot more upside with Adams especially defensively. Kids mature a different ages like Steph curry and Westbrook who were not highly ranked kids. I might be wrong or right but with J Adams it looks like the game comes natural to him and he looks like he's a warrior type attitude.
 
Briscoe made me think of a bigger Khalid in a way, a bit more of a hot dog. No way to tell from those videos who could run the point...If Briscoe has the "it" factor, then let's hope we get him. From one brief video, Briscoe looked quick but maybe a little land-bound (as in not a great leaper). I am ready to be completely wrong, but that was an impression. The need for a quarterback is the biggest thing we have to have to compete at a very high level, IMHO.

I agree, there is no way to see it on video. But that's why I asked how many people have actually seen them. I have had the pleasure to see them both multiple times, Adams more often, and I have been more impressed with Briscoe. Again, no offense to Adams, not trying to say he's bad or anything. It'd be great to have either. Whoever commits first is fine with me. Or both.
 
I get that but I also feel I know what to look for………and in film Briscoe looks slower and less athletic by far to me so I'm not sure who his film editor is but they need to do a better job. You seem to have seen him in person and know a little more so I'll give you that, but Adams has more game according to what I see.

Adams is definitely more athletic, I'll concede that. And from what I've read on this board from you I don't think you're just speculating; I get that you're actually forming an opinion. I asked if anyone has seen them out of curiosity really, because I've been fortunate enough to see both.

My personal opinion is just that when you watch Briscoe you see a player that understands the game. He is selfish at times but that has had alot to do with the players around him. He plays with an amazing amount of confidence as is a serious "gamer" if you will. He really reminds me of Shabazz in attitude more than style.

Again, I'll be happy with either. Or both.
 
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I think you really overrate the kid. He's a nice player, but his strength is literally his strength. I wonder how much upside a kid like Briscoe has at the college level. I don't have that same question about Adams. I'm also curious as to how you know that Briscoe has all these intangibles (leadership, etc.) while Adams, et al. don't. Having seen them each play a couple times, and with a sense of what Ollie's trying to put together, I'd take Adams 10 times out of 10.

I think Ollie has a far better grip on it than me. Whoever he goes with I'll be happy with. I will not be upset just because we didn't get the guy I wanted most. There is a reason he's going after them both, because there is no real wrong decision.

Adams is a superb athlete and great player. I simply think Briscoe is better.
 
Guys let's not jump off the Turtle train, like his size and game too…….nothing to look at and not be happy he wants to be and will be a Husky. Turtle wants to be here and we should be happy for solid players like that who get what it takes and means to don that National Flag Blue uni!!!
 
Adams is definitely more athletic, I'll concede that. And from what I've read on this board from you I don't think you're just speculating; I get that you're actually forming an opinion. I asked if anyone has seen them out of curiosity really, because I've been fortunate enough to see both.

My personal opinion is just that when you watch Briscoe you see a player that understands the game. He is selfish at times but that has had alot to do with the players around him. He plays with an amazing amount of confidence as is a serious "gamer" if you will. He really reminds me of Shabazz in attitude more than style.

Again, I'll be happy with either. Or both.

Yeah, this is really the argument that we should be going for here.
 
Briscoe is a really nice player,everything u said about him seems true but I just see a lot more upside with Adams especially defensively. Kids mature a different ages like Steph curry and Westbrook who were not highly ranked kids. I might be wrong or right but with J Adams it looks like the game comes natural to him and he looks like he's a warrior type attitude.

You're not wrong; all these kids can get better in the years to come. I haven't been trying to tell anyone they're wrong because it's all just opinions about a few great players. If we get Adams I hope he is that Westbrook type underrated player. Only time will tell.
 
Some more highlights


A lot of movement on 247crystal ball for Jalen Adams in UConn's favor.

From Scout:

Recruiting wise some high powered schools have been showing Adams significant attention.

“UConn, Minnesota, Kansas, Creighton, Rhode Island, Louisville, and a few other schools are talking to me a lot,” noted Adams.

Connecticut and Head Coach Kevin Ollie came home with the national title this past season, and Adams has built a strong relationship with him.

“Coach Ollie is a cool guy,” Adams explained. “I like him a lot, and he tells me how I fit well into their system and that he likes the way I play.”
 
Does it concern anyone that Louisville and Kansas are Adidas schools and so is Adams AAU team?
 
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