Jackson?!

[bendm]

When comparing a junior and a senior, using a 3 game sample size is pretty disingenuous.

not when we are debating who has been the better shooter thus far. the stats back up the eye test. everyone knows polley isnt right, maybe you dont idk. but what does them being a junior and senior have todo with it?

 

[HuskyHawk]

Then why did Gaff see so many mins? Same situation.

What? Gaff was 1-2 from 3. On the year he is 3-7 for 43%. His bigger problem is that he doesn't shoot often enough.

 

[Huskyforlife]

not when we are debating who has been the better shooter thus far. the stats back up the eye test. everyone knows polley isnt right, maybe you dont idk. but what does them being a junior and senior have todo with it?

You clearly don't understand sample sizes.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Who he supposed to play for? Bouknight? Martin? Whaley? He plays the 3/4. That is Bouknight and Whaley.

If you shift Bouknight to the 2. You are taking out Cole or Gaffney and playing him over Martin.

The team has a lot of talent. It isn’t all ripe yet. But a lot ability on the roster.

Bouknight is a 2. He should only ever play the 2, except when milking a late lead. Martin is a 3/4. Polley is a 3/4 Adams is a 2/3/4 (and shouldn't be a 4). If Josh plays more, and Whaley is a 4, then Martin will be at the 3, or Jackson or Polley.

The best fit for Jackson is at the 3, with Bouk and Gaff, Martin 4, Whaley or Sanogo 5, in a lineup that should press a bit and look to run. If we want to get Jackson going, we need to press and run more. It's a lineup I think we may see against NC State.

 

[MexicoHusky]

I don't really care to criticize a bunch of kids in their late teens and early 20s. I've worked with my share of new hires and interns. They are generally a bit clueless. So I need to remind myself that our players are the same age as the interns at work. Thus need to be given some slack.

That said, I'm a bit down on Polley. He has the injury excuse. So there's that. He's really just getting back to playing. But I'm not really sure I see lots of improvement in his game. It seems like he's essentially doing the same thing he did late in his Freshman year and Sophomore year. Sorta waiting around for someone to find him open in the corner. He's a big dude who doesn't give us much of anything down low. He also doesn't do a super job getting open off screens. He may of even done a better job getting open as a sophomore. Or he could hit his shot running at faster speeds and required less time to get his feet set. He shoots a solid percentage from 3, but that's all he really does. And I dont think he can get himself open on his own. I wonder who he thinks he is a player. Who he'd like to become? A stretch 4? Because he's not really that despite his height. At the risk of being critical of a young kid who's done more with his life than I had at his age.... I'm not sure he's put in the work to improve his game.

 

[QDOG5]

Patience?! People talkin' bout Patience. The kid will be fine. If teams continue to zone us I think AJ might find some time as a baseline runner. His leaping ability might open up the middle. I think it's worth a try.

 

[Chief00]

Chief really likes Jackson and while he needs seasoning (mostly his shot) - his upside is sky high. Chief doesn’t believe in pandering but you don’t want to have this guy transfer due to PT. He can be that special.

 

[QDOG5]

@Chief00, I'm surprised this comment came from you. I don't think think you would ever say that about a Calhoun recruit. Dan Hurley is not JC but he is the head coach and most on here would agree that he has done a good job so far. So, let him coach and don't worry about a freshman transferring after the third game.

 

[87Xfer]

but he's not right now. polley shooting 25% from 3 and martin is at 33%. polley shooting 33% overall compared to 54% for martin.

well, keep in mind the small sample sizes here, i mean martin's percentage is based on 3 shots.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Should call it the Moan Yard.

#groanyard

 

[QDOG5]

#zoneyard

 

[Chief00]

What? Gaff was 1-2 from 3. On the year he is 3-7 for 43%. His bigger problem is that he doesn't shoot often enough.

Exactly - I can think of some shots I wish Gaffney had taken instead.

 

[Chief00]

@Chief00, I'm surprised this comment came from you. I don't think think you would ever say that about a Calhoun recruit. Dan Hurley is not JC but he is the head coach and most on here would agree that he has done a good job so far. So, let him coach and don't worry about a freshman transferring after the third game.

That’s not what Chief said (transferring after game 3), but he certainly is one of are two most gifted players and we need to let him play through some mistakes this year. He’s a good kid, trying to do things the right way. I also don’t think Danny disagrees with me. Let’s see. You also neglected to
mention what I said about pandering.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Polley can’t be getting himself in Foul trouble. 4 fouls in 4 minute
Is almost beyond belief.
we’re desperate for a second and third option right know

 

[Edward Sargent]

Chief really likes Jackson and while he needs seasoning (mostly his shot) - his upside is sky high. Chief doesn’t believe in pandering but you don’t want to have this guy transfer due to PT. He can be that special.

Chief really? If he can't earn playing time at UConn how will he do in the NBA?

 

[Dogdeacon]

Disappointed that this thread wasn't about & didn't even mentioned the boneyard legendary poster: jAcKsOn

 

[bendm]

You clearly don't understand sample sizes.

screw your sample sizes. we are talking about who's a better shooter RIGHT NOW so the sample size can by definition only contain these 3 games.

are you blind or can you not see that polley looks like he's playing on 1 leg?

 

[UconnU]

Limited practice coming off injury first few games came in a little raw in the ball handling and shooting aspects of the game. This start was very predictable. By the end of the year he’s a major factor. I do see us playing him closer to the basket though. I really like him at the 4, even against teams with size. He has the athleticism and length.

 

[navery12]

screw your sample sizes. we are talking about who's a better shooter RIGHT NOW so the sample size can by definition only contain these 3 games.

are you blind or can you not see that polley looks like he's playing on 1 leg?

Polley is the better shooter right now and always, this is a really strange hill to die on

 

[HuskyHawk]

Polley is the better shooter right now and always, this is a really strange hill to die on

I feel like we need to qualify this. If he is set and receives a pass and doesn’t have to dribble, Polley is an excellent shooter. If he has to dribble once to the side, or move in any way after he gets the ball, he is not a good shooter. Even healthy that was the case.

Thus far he can’t seem to stay in the court and when he does, we have not gotten him the looks he needs. He’s not very useful at generating offense himself. Been that way since he got here.

 

[superjohn]

 

[navery12]

I feel like we need to qualify this. If he is set and receives a pass and doesn’t have to dribble, Polley is an excellent shooter. If he has to dribble once to the side, or move in any way after he gets the ball, he is not a good shooter. Even healthy that was the case.

Thus far he can’t seem to stay in the court and when he does, we have not gotten him the looks he needs. He’s not very useful at generating offense himself. Been that way since he got here.

Of course, Polley definitely has his limitations and is really just a spot up shooter. But we're comparing him to Tyrese Martin here, who is not a good shooter. He's respectable and I have no problem with him taking the 3 when he's open, but he's not on the same level as Polley as a shooter. No doubt he's a more complete offensive player and should be playing over him but that's not what this conversation was

 

[Lefty2one]

I disagree about benching Jackson just because of a zone. He's a perfect guy to flash to the FT line since he reads the floor well. Martin just played really well. If a starter is having a good game you leave him on the floor, simple as that.

 

[Huskyforlife]

well, keep in mind the small sample sizes here, i mean martin's percentage is based on 3 shots.

Hey, hey, screw your sample sizes bro. 3 shots is enough to definitively decide moving forward that Martin is our new shooting specialist. I'm surprised Hurley would let Polley shoot a 3 at this point.

 

[Huskyforlife]

screw your sample sizes. we are talking about who's a better shooter RIGHT NOW so the sample size can by definition only contain these 3 games.

are you blind or can you not see that polley looks like he's playing on 1 leg?

Polley is the better shooter, probably on one leg too.

You must've blinked when 1 of Martins 3 attempts on the season missed the entire hoop. Please stop.

 

[k-walk]

but he's not right now. polley shooting 25% from 3 and martin is at 33%. polley shooting 33% overall compared to 54% for martin.

I don’t even like polley and even ik this is a very stupid argument

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I feel like we need to qualify this. If he is set and receives a pass and doesn’t have to dribble, Polley is an excellent shooter. If he has to dribble once to the side, or move in any way after he gets the ball, he is not a good shooter. Even healthy that was the case.

Thus far he can’t seem to stay in the court and when he does, we have not gotten him the looks he needs. He’s not very useful at generating offense himself. Been that way since he got here.

I don't agree with this at all. Before he got hurt last year they were running him off screens and he was knocking shots down all over the place. If you want to talk about someone who needed their feet set start with Niels Giffey (who I love but I don't think he made a three off the dribble in his entire career). Polley is obviously still working his way back from the knee thing.

 

[bendm]

Polley is the better shooter, probably on one leg too.
You must've blinked when 1 of Martins 3 attempts on the season missed the entire hoop. Please stop.

I don’t even like polley and even ik this is a very stupid argument

hold up...3 games is too small a sample size for me to draw any conclusions but 1 air ball is all you need to see? got it. next.

being a better shooter requires that the guy can actually play basketball and in the game against USC polley did not belong on the floor for a single minute.

i'm not saying it's his fault, he's hurt. but we are talking about who the best lineup to play against the zone was. polley was not one of those 5 guys yesterday.

 

[bendm]

Polley is the better shooter right now and always, this is a really strange hill to die on

No doubt he's a more complete offensive player and should be playing over him but that's not what this conversation was

the conversation was what was the best lineup to play against the USC zone. if polley was healthy polley would be in that lineup but he's hurt and cant play so he isn't getting the spot over martin. i dont get the confusion and it's BS to say polley would be more effective on one leg. if that was the case he would have played more than 4 minutes. polley is obviously the better shooter all else equal, but all else is not equal

 

[navery12]

no it wasnt- the conversation was what was the best lineup to play against the USC zone. if polley was healthy polley would be in that lineup but polley is hurt and cant play so he isn't getting the spot over martin. i dont get the confusion. polley is obviously the better shooter all else equal, but all else is not equal

You literally, word for word said exactly that. You didn't say Martin should play over Polley (he should), you said he's a better shooter