It's not coaching

[Horatio]

Hopkins and Boum look like possible BEPOY candidates. I don't think taking transfers has anything to do with it

I never said taking transfers was the issue. But it’s undeniable that our transfers can’t compete in the Big East and hopefully our “Fab Five” can.

 

[Fatroony5]

I never said taking transfers was the issue. But it’s undeniable that our transfers can’t compete in the Big East and hopefully our “Fab Five” can.

Theyll be freshmen tho, it’s unlikely they’re ready to truly impact winning & push UConn over the top. It’s likely 2-3 of them hardly even play that much as a freshman. Maybe Castle can truly impact winning, but how many freshmen point guards are leading their teams to conference titles and deep march runs? Some, but not many. It’s really hard to do. If the season rides on Castle playing at a very high level as a true freshmen, as talented as he might be, that’s a recipe for concern for me.

 

[navery12]

Theyll be freshmen tho, it’s unlikely they’re ready to truly impact winning & push UConn over the top. It’s likely 2-3 of them hardly even play that much as a freshman. Maybe Castle can truly impact winning, but how many freshmen point guards are leading their teams to conference titles and deep march runs? Some, but not many. It’s really hard to do. If the season rides on Castle playing at a very high level as a true freshmen, as talented as he might be, that’s a recipe for concern for me.

Counterpoint, look at this year's team. During conference play Karaban and Clingan have been 2 of the few players have looked like they belong. I think Ross and Singare will need time, but I expect Ball, Castle, Stewart to all contribute

 

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Theyll be freshmen tho, it’s unlikely they’re ready to truly impact winning & push UConn over the top. It’s likely 2-3 of them hardly even play that much as a freshman. Maybe Castle can truly impact winning, but how many freshmen point guards are leading their teams to conference titles and deep march runs? Some, but not many. It’s really hard to do. If the season rides on Castle playing at a very high level as a true freshmen, as talented as he might be, that’s a recipe for concern for me.

Cade Cunningham and Jalen Suggs were pretty good their freshman year fwiw.

 

[Fatroony5]

Counterpoint, look at this year's team. During conference play Karaban and Clingan have been 2 of the few players have looked like they belong. I think Ross and Singare will need time, but I expect Ball, Castle, Stewart to all contribute

Karaban redshirting I do think makes a difference, but ya they both are playing well, I’m so surprised by how good Clingan is already. Obviously that’s the hope, it’s just a tough spot for freshmen, always a level of uncertainty there. Especially with how reliant they might be on Castle at the point guard position, lot of pressure there.

 

[Horatio]

Counterpoint, look at this year's team. During conference play Karaban and Clingan have been 2 of the few players have looked like they belong. I think Ross and Singare will need time, but I expect Ball, Castle, Stewart to all contribute

You never know. It could go either way.

 

[Fatroony5]

Cade Cunningham and Jalen Suggs were pretty good their freshman year fwiw.

Yep they both came to mind, few others in there too like Tyus Jones. Definitely the hope is he’s ready to go from day 1. But they definitely need to surround him with better, experienced guards and wings.

 

[StllH8L8ner]

Guy just texted me “UConn is dropping faster than a prom dress”. If I weren’t laughing I’d be crying. We need to right this ship.

 

[Icehawk]

I'm gonna go ahead and continue to disagree with the thread title, here's this "gem":

“I thought I did a poor job coaching the guys in the second half, offensively in particular,” Murray said. “We talked about it at halftime. We knew that Seton Hall was gonna pick up the pressure in the second half, and we didn’t do a good job of handling it.”

Seton Hall defeats No. 15 UConn on Ndefo’s last-second layup

During St. Peter’s run to the Elite Eight last year, KC Ndefo gained a reputation as a tenacious rebounder and a hard-nosed defender who led the nation in blocks at 6-foot-7.

www.wfsb.com

Mea culpa ain't enough here.

 

[bendm]

I haven’t made a comparison at all. Tyrese would be huge for us this year, but that doesn’t mean diddly squat. He ain’t here.

bouk's penetration or cole's general competence would be exponentially more helpful to this team than tyrese.

after 5 years bouk and cole, and now clingan, are the only 3 hurley recruits that i'd confidently start in a tourney game....

2 years ago we had all 3 of cole / bouk / martin yet we got bounced in the first round, so i cant include martin too.

by next year karaban will likely become the 4th guy on my list. hopefully castle will be the 5th.

but based on these results, either hurley's recruiting has been overrated or he's not developing his recruits to their potential.

 

[Drfla]

Leads the team in scoring and rebounds. Clingan should be on the court with him, not instead of him. ~ 25 min each.

So Sanogo pretty much was at his season averages yesterday (16 points, 5 rebound). Do you think he played a good game?

his numbers are misleading.

Three times yesterday he had the ball in the paint while being double teamed and refused to pass out to open shooters with no defender nearby. The first time Karaban was virtually begging for the pass. 9 potential points lost because he didn’t make the right basketball play. I think he works hard and has some great moves near the basket but his other skills are lacking and it hurts the team.

By the way Clingan had 6 rebounds in 12 minutes while Sanogo had 5 in 28 minutes.

Sanogo would be a very good second fiddle but you can’t build a team around his skill set. He could be the man if he had better passing skills and knew when to pass out and when to get his own.

 

[UConnSwag11]

I'm gonna go ahead and continue to disagree with the thread title, here's this "gem":

“I thought I did a poor job coaching the guys in the second half, offensively in particular,” Murray said. “We talked about it at halftime. We knew that Seton Hall was gonna pick up the pressure in the second half, and we didn’t do a good job of handling it.”

Seton Hall defeats No. 15 UConn on Ndefo’s last-second layup

During St. Peter’s run to the Elite Eight last year, KC Ndefo gained a reputation as a tenacious rebounder and a hard-nosed defender who led the nation in blocks at 6-foot-7.

www.wfsb.com

Mea culpa ain't enough here.

Sounds exactly like the Hurley

 

[UConnSwag11]

So Sanogo pretty much was at his season averages yesterday (16 points, 5 rebound). Do you think he played a good game?

his numbers are misleading.

Three times yesterday he had the ball in the paint while being double teamed and refused to pass out to open shooters with no defender nearby. The first time Karaban was virtually begging for the pass. 9 potential points lost because he didn’t make the right basketball play. I think he works hard and has some great moves near the basket but his other skills are lacking and it hurts the team.

By the way Clingan had 6 rebounds in 12 minutes while Sanogo had 5 in 28 minutes.

Sanogo would be a very good second fiddle but you can’t build a team around his skill set. He could be the man if he had better passing skills and knew when to pass out and when to get his own.

Not sure if the staff has ever gone up to Sanogo and said, “When you’re double or triple teamed, pass the ball.”

 

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Yep they both came to mind, few others in there too like Tyus Jones. Definitely the hope is he’s ready to go from day 1. But they definitely need to surround him with better, experienced guards and wings.

Getting Hawkins back would be a huge step towards that. I know everyone is pretty down on Andre right now, but hopefully after a year of having it be on him he’ll wake up that he really needs to take overall scoring seriously and work on that over the summer.

 

[Kathy]

Getting Hawkins back would be a huge step towards that. I know everyone is pretty down on Andre right now, but hopefully after a year of having it be on him he’ll wake up that he really needs to take overall scoring seriously and work on that over the summer.

Thought that was what he supposed to work on this summer - he's heading into his Senior year.

 

[Fishy]

Nobody on this team carries a lunch pail. Should have gotten one of those through the portal

Funny thing is that they all did in the preseason.

 

[Deleted at users request]

Thought that was what he supposed to work on this summer - he's heading into his Senior year.

Man who you telling. It seems like he just worked on being able to shoot an occasional three and that was literally it. Didn’t give one thought to the rest of his offensive game.

 

[Icehawk]

A bit tongue-in-cheek here but maybe Kimani is the only coach worth a damn in game?

I'm ready to forget this one and move on to Butler, now that one... if we lose I may just end up getting that new TV I want.

 

[dennismenace]

Sounds exactly like the Hurley

Except that Hurley did not say it but perhaps should have.

 

[Deleted at users request]

I'm gonna go ahead and continue to disagree with the thread title, here's this "gem":

“I thought I did a poor job coaching the guys in the second half, offensively in particular,” Murray said. “We talked about it at halftime. We knew that Seton Hall was gonna pick up the pressure in the second half, and we didn’t do a good job of handling it.”

Seton Hall defeats No. 15 UConn on Ndefo’s last-second layup

During St. Peter’s run to the Elite Eight last year, KC Ndefo gained a reputation as a tenacious rebounder and a hard-nosed defender who led the nation in blocks at 6-foot-7.

www.wfsb.com

Mea culpa ain't enough here.

At least Murray owned up to it.

 

[Icehawk]

Say what you will about Calipari but I think this is spot on regarding mental toughness - it's not hanging your head it's fighting back.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Seton hall is a pretty bad team offensively. I don’t even know what we do anymore.

I read your post and went scurrying for the game overview. I looked at the attached and thought it D be helpful to post. I Reread your post and I'm not sure why I thought it applied. Might be that Seton Hall's shooting, rebounds, and assists didn't look at that impressive, especially after the better percentages in the 4 other losses.

Steals, blocks, and turnovers? OUCH

 

[Hoophound]

take a look at the thickness of the other teams compared to ours. Adama and Diarra are OK. the others look skinny by comparison.

This has been going on for years.

 

[Jay-Bone]

Funny thing is that they all did in the preseason.

Funny indeed. Whose in charge of packing their lunches?

Jokes aside, I'm talking about a Jeff Adrien / Kevin Freeman type.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

It is coaching. This team has plenty of talent, and while maybe 18-2 was a bit optimistic, there is enough talent for 15 or 16 Big East wins on this squad. The coach is blowing a potentially great season.

 

[Hurleyman216]

We need to push the tempo to hide our weakness at PG.

 

[UconnU]

I do think there’s some merit to the fact that we need to calm down, take a deep breath, as a team. The anxious energy that Hurley and Jackson bring may be causing us to foul too much on defense and turn it over too much on offense. That we need Hurley to transform back into the calm collected coach he was for the first 14 games.

And why are we playing so much in the half court now, transition play, particularly transition shooting was what we did best the first half of the season. Are guys wearing down?

 

[Drfla]

I do think there’s some merit to the fact that we need to calm down, take a deep breath, as a team. The anxious energy that Hurley and Jackson bring may be causing us to foul too much on defense and turn it over too much on offense. That we need Hurley to transform back into the calm collected coach he was for the first 14 games.

And why are we playing so much in the half court now, transition play, particularly transition shooting was what we did best the first half of the season. Are guys wearing down?

With our depth why don’t we press more to speed up tempo and get easier baskets or threes in transition. Put Clingan in the back to protect the basket if the opponent breaks the press

 

[SprtzJnkee]

I remember last season or maybe the year before Bob Sr. was at one of our games and was interviewed in the stands. He was asked if he gives his son advice/feedback on our team and the HOF’r answered “No, he doesn’t ask for it.” I found that shocking and very telling about Danny and some of his possible character traits that have already been mentioned here: stubborn, resistant to change, etc. If ever there was a need for changes it’s now. And it always starts with Coaching.

 

[Rocktheworld]

We need to push the tempo to hide our weakness at PG.

That’s how we end up giving up tons of offensive rebounds and second chance points. It’s also part of how we have been turning the ball over so much and in such bone-headed fashion, especially last night. The collective BBIQ isn’t there. They get nervous and start trying to push the tempo, and mistakes are made and rebounds are neglected.