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Interesting - Never heard this story Re: Edsall vs Paul Johnson

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That is awesome. Johnson made Edsall his bitch that day. Halftime adjustments? Johnson knew just what HCRE would do and scored from the 1st play from scrimmage in the 2nd half. And I believe he threw the team under the bus post-game.
 
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I heard that because we backed out of playing Navy, Army also refused to schedule us.
 
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That is a great story. Johnson also got the GTech job after Edsall interviewed for it. Smart choice by GTech.
 
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In that 2002 game at Annapolis, it rained to poured the entire game. Good win, crummy day. Post-2006 loss at The Rent, FHCRE expressed disgust with some chop blocks. No comment on the coaching execution that day.
 
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I was at both of the Navy games. The game at the Rent is still to this day the only game I ever left early from. The team clearly quit that day. We were so outplayed and even more outcoached that day it wasn't even funny.

This is interesting to read if it's true. Good story. And Edsall deserved that.
 
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Your comment, of course, will lead to the inevitable smirking that here come the Apologistas, starting another pro-Edsall discussion. Notwithstanding the fact that every single one of these discussions starts with people who hated him being unable to let go.
 
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I still don't understand why anyone would have to apologize for a record 19 games over .500 (despite making an upgrad), a 3-2 bowl record, 2 conference championships, and a BCS bid. Accomplishments that many thought would take decades to reach.

He had bad games, it happens. All in all, there isn't an impartial observer that doesn't think the job he did in 10 years here was anything short of outstanding.

No, but there are an unlimited number of partial ones.
 
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If you coach 209 games at any NCAA level ... you're bound to get out coached at some point. Just like if you keep playing MAC opponents at home every year ... you're bound to lose to them eventually.
 
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I don't think anyone revels ins ANY UConn loss. If Edsall' s smug ass did say that, then good for Paul Johnson.

At some point I would imagine the Edsall talk will dissipate as will the need for some to defend him of the criticism of anonymous posters on a message board.
 
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I don't think anyone revels ins ANY UConn loss. If Edsall' s smug ass did say that, then good for Paul Johnson.

At some point I would imagine the Edsall talk will dissipate as will the need for some to defend him of the criticism of anonymous posters on a message board.
Hey even the Aaron Hernandez talk eventually dissipated...and no, he still isn't coming to UCONN...
 

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If Edsall's worst failure was being outcoached by Paul Johnson, then about 3/4 of the coaches in the ACC fall into the same boat.
 

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I still don't understand why anyone would have to apologize for a record 19 games over .500 (despite making an upgrad), a 3-2 bowl record, 2 conference championships, and a BCS bid. Accomplishments that many thought would take decades to reach.

Yes, the program made huge strides under Edsall, I think that's hard to dispute. But not all fans could warm up to him and part of the problem is that Edsall isn't really a likable guy. I think that could have been overlooked but for a few issues.

The improvement was rapid rather than a slow progression and that led to higher expectations. Year after year of 7-5 records, even though they were winning seasons and made UConn bowl eligible, left fans wishing for a breakout season with some signature wins.

There were also issues like the quality and watchability of the offense the past few years, the miserly refusal to give fans even the most harmless information and the perceived lack of aggression in recruiting. I think fans were just expecting more.

All those facts you quoted above are true, of course. There are fans that could attach a "yeah, but..." to many of them.

UConn's W-L record is 19 games above .500.....but it went 1-17 against ranked teams (and I think that one win was against USF which started strong and ended horribly that season)
UConn is 3-2 in bowls....but it's 1-2 against BCS teams in bowls
UConn has 2 conference championships....but was one of the least respected conference winners in the BCS

I know better than to post in this thread but there are some fans that seem to feel a need to ridicule fans that don't think the way they do. I'm not saying I, personally, am an anti-Randy or an Apologista, just that I can see where the other side is coming from (although I may not agree) and respect their opinion.
 
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Can we just cut and paste Nan's post into every Edsall discussion that surfaces on this board?
 

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Here come the apologistas! Right on cue! Telling other people what they should think. Still boring, I don't even skim it anymore.
 
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The fact is, anyone who defends the job he dids (not praises, just defends) is accused of putting him on a pedastal and enshrining him in the hall of fame. And the fact is, those that dislike Edsall are the ones who think we should apologize because Edsall did not meet their expectations, despite surpassing the expectations of any rational human being.

I call bull$h!t. That is all.
 

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The fact is, anyone who defends the job he dids (not praises, just defends) is accused of putting him on a pedastal and enshrining him in the hall of fame. And the fact is, those that dislike Edsall are the ones who think we should apologize because Edsall did not meet their expectations, despite surpassing the expectations of any rational human being.

That's the second time you said that. I admit I haven't read every post in every thread about Edsall but I don't remember ever seeing anyone ask for an apology for what Edsall has done at UConn.

On edit: make that three times.
 
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