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Indiana Daily Hoosier having a sip whine before the game

Deadrody said:
Indeed. If the regional were held in Albany, for instance, do you think they would still complain ? They would
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I think the whiners don't want UConn anywhere close to the Northeast Region.

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mbr33ct said:
I think the whiners don't want UConn anywhere close to the Northeast Region.

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Any site north of a Buffalo to Philly line is going to be considered a "home game" for UConn by the whiners. UConn has a larger footprint than any other school when it comes to WCBB, and the whiners consider that an unfair advantage whether they are whining about tourney sites or media coverage. You see the complaints all the time from fans of other teams when ESPN tweets about UConn, but not their team. Or UConn gets the prime time TV slot, but not their team. It's just jealousy I guess, but interesting in that they never consider UConn's mid-major status as a disadvantage.
 
So, If IU makes the final 4, they will be playing 589 miles from home. I think that might make them closer to home court advantage then anyone else. Need to look at a map...........

Wonder if the same writer will whine if that happens?
 
So after reading 6,982 posts about how important it was to get to Bridgeport, how it was unfair if Uconn didn’t, if this team lost and this team won, Uconn gets to Bridgeport, etc., etc., etc.
Now, it doesn’t matter and is no advantage?
 
Steve Frohock said:
Sorry, should read "when". IU is a mediocre team and got very lucky to beat Princeton.
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sometimes they are mediocre and sometimes they can beat almost anybody......I hope it's the former on Saturday......
 
Drumguy said:
It's convenient for people to forget that around the country the womens game did not get the support from fans so tournament sites were picked to maximize ticket sales. It's why games are played at home courts and the regionals were placed where people would buy tickets. There is also a directive to minimize travel costs as most programs lose money. Most of this whining forgets the economics of the women's game.

As for advantages, many of the higher seeds, including IU were upset or pushed to the wire on their home court. iirc Home is worth a basket in most betting schemes.
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The issue of neutral court versus home court for seeded teams in the postseason it's one that can keep us engaged, conversing, commenting and arguing for a long time.

Coach Abe articulated the neutral court perspective, one that has a significant contingent and a number of strong arguments.

Adia Barnes in her post game presser after the loss argued for the opposite with equal strength and analysis.

For the WBB fan without a horse in the race (NAU Lumberjacks) I think the case for neutral courts might be persuasive. Although I must admit as a Husky fan I absolutely love home courts.

Obviously for fans with a rooting interest the breakdown is along ranking lines. Fans of the higher ranked team love the opportunity to go to a home court contest. Fans of the lower ranked team would probably be equally passionate in their view for neutral court.

The one issue that rings in my mind is one of in court attendance. I would suspect that attendance would dip if games were all held on a true neutral court.

So for those of us who would like to see a higher profile for WBB, more energy and engagement, more attendance, and ultimately a movement toward equal exposure and resourcing I think this is a complex and extraordinarily important issue.

I would say right now to achieve the above goals we would want to continue to see home courts such as Iowa State, iowa, South Caolina, Tucson, and of course Connecticut. Those huge involved crowds really are an exemplar of what we'd like to see all across the sport.

But perhaps just perhaps if we take a long-term perspective locating the tournament at a true neutral side might offer opportunities for increasing interest in viewership and broadening the base. I think the rabid fans in our sport will always remain attached. I think the challenge is broadening that base to general sports fans or more casual fans. I'm not sure what the answer is but wouldn't it be great if those fans became more engaged. I know it would certainly help the game.

I think this is an extremely worthwhile topic and an important argument. Also it seems to be one on the by in which there's animated and informed discussion on both sides while still maintaining civility and collegiality. That may be one of the reasons I'm so engaged with it.
 
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Littlemin said:
So after reading 6,982 posts about how important it was to get to Bridgeport, how it was unfair if Uconn didn’t, if this team lost and this team won, Uconn gets to Bridgeport, etc., etc., etc.
Now, it doesn’t matter and is no advantage?
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Well personally, I just wanted my great seats I bought months ago to be worth it. No UConn, then I'm working instead of going to the games (tax season).
 
Steve Frohock said:
Sorry, should read "when". IU is a mediocre team and got very lucky to beat Princeton.
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Princeton beat Kentucky who just beat SC, I think you are underestimating Princeton. If we using this logic, "Uconn only won by 5 at home vs Ucf."
 
Patty Bailey said:
Well personally, I just wanted my great seats I bought months ago to be worth it. No UConn, then I'm working instead of going to the games (tax season).
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And that circumstance is certainly not what I was addressing, I would feel the same way obviously. My bad for not caveating my comment.
 
PJCLaw said:
Exactly. In fact, North Carolina will have more of an advantage than even S.C. because Chapel Hill is only 50 miles from Greensboro, yet no one is talking about that!! I guess because no one expected that N.C. would make it to the Sweet Sixteen. ;)
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The only advantage NC has over SC is fewer minutes spent on a bus, so they will have fresher legs I presume. I'd bet anyone on here a New Haven Pizza that NC will have less fans than SC.

On second thought, I guess NC has the advantage of being more familiar with the rims.... but since they only spent 45 minutes of on court shooting in Greensboro on their last visit.... won't be that much of an advantage.
 
Happydad745 said:
I don't think we would have beaten UCF if we weren't playing at home....or close to it.
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How do we miss so many lay-ups on our home court advantage???? Perhaps it's too much pressure to perform in front of the home fans???? Home house isn't always an advantage, golfers don't always win on their home course, there are too many variables like the other team being an underdog etc etc.
 
Urshurak said:
So, If IU makes the final 4, they will be playing 589 miles from home. I think that might make them closer to home court advantage then anyone else. Need to look at a map...........

Wonder if the same writer will whine if that happens?
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Nope. The South Dakota Coyotes from Vermilion, SC are a mere 298 miles from Minneapolis. Of course they would need to get by Michigan and the winner of the Louisville/Tennessee game to earn a ticket to Minneapolis.
 
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oldude said:
Nope. The South Dakota Coyotes from Vermilion, SC are a mere 298 miles from Minneapolis. Of course they would need to get by Michigan and the winner of the Louisville/Tennessee game to earn a ticket to Minneapolis.
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What kind of welcome would Paige (Hopkins) and UConn get in Minneapolis?
 
CajunHusky said:
What kind of welcome would Paige (Hopkins) and UConn get in Minneapolis?
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UConn fans always travel well. If the Huskies make it to Minneapolis I figure half the fans will be UConn fans and the other half will be Paige Bueckers fans..;)
 
HuskyNan said:
I remember reading somewhere that oddsmakers give 3 points to visiting teams.
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That’s the case in football. I think home court generally gets more weight in bball. You can see this in Massey’s matchups, where a lesser team is actually favored to win, or lose less miserably, based on hone court advantage. Of course, when at least half the fans are supporting UConn in an away game, that would kinda change things…
 
dabears17 said:
The last time Uconn played a Regional in Bridgeport was 2018.

The last time Uconn played in a Regional not in Albany or Bridgeport was 2014 (not counting last year).
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They played in Lincoln that year, they won the regional, then the NC.
 
Just wondering if there was a time when UConn, as a #1 seed, had to play in a regional which was a "home" game for the #2 seed? I don't have any memory of something like that, but with my memory....
 
eebmg said:
I actually think playing at home with the insane crowd unnerved some of our players and helped lead to some of the bunny's missed. And some of these bunnies were not average bunnies. These were some of the cutest cuddly bunnies ever. :oops:



And if we played in Fl, or a neutral site, our fans would anyway travel well enough so it is not a hostile environment,
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We missed more bunnies than Elmer Fudd (no relation).
confused elmer fudd GIF by Looney Tunes
 
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boontonbomber said:
Just wondering if there was a time when UConn, as a #1 seed, had to play in a regional which was a "home" game for the #2 seed? I don't have any memory of something like that, but with my memory....
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My memory isn't what it used to be, but I believe we were at Stanford as a #1 and Stanford was the #2 seed.
 
boontonbomber said:
Just wondering if there was a time when UConn, as a #1 seed, had to play in a regional which was a "home" game for the #2 seed? I don't have any memory of something like that, but with my memory....
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And Nebraska was upset in the 2nd round of that region and would have been playing on their 'home court' had they won.

Edit: And a number of teams could have had a 'home court' for their FF had they won through the E8 - something Uconn has never had a chance at as no CT arenas have ever been selected for a FF.
 
They know what they doing. UConn brings in the money. It’ll be loud and sold out. I’ll be there that being said if UConn wasn’t in the Bridgeport region I doubt much people from Connecticut would of show up.
 
If there were no fans at Bridgeport Uconn wouldn't have people saying Uconn has an advantage. Fans give Uconn an advantage and there are Uconn fans everywhere. Probably more in CT but Uconn fans show up and many other teams don't have the fan base.
 
The East regional in 2020 was scheduled to be in, Ft Wayne.
 
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npignatjr said:
The East regional in 2020 was scheduled to be in, Ft Wayne.
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Chosen for ND's benefit after much ND complaining about UConn and Bridgeport. The 2020 NCAAT was canceled, of course, but ND would not have made the tournament.
 
UConnCat said:
Chosen for ND's benefit after much ND complaining about UConn and Bridgeport. The 2020 NCAAT was canceled, of course, but ND would not have made the tournament.
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Indiana would have
 
CajunHusky said:
Notre Dame was 13-18 that year. Doubt they would even made the tournament.
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The regional, not the first 2 rounds. The 4 regional sites are chosen years in advance.
 
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