I'm not getting all this anger directed at Bria

[DaddyChoc]

everyone would blame Bria if UConn doesnt win it all cause it would harm their ego and bragging rights...

for some this is more than just "womens basketball"

 

[blackbird]

I would disagree with about Bria not getting the support of the board same as other players. We all have favorites and seem to think our favorite gets the most flack. I think Bria has had a ton of support as she should.

One difference between her and Caroline or Breanna is expectations because she has been acknowledged as an AA. Expectations of CD are reduced because we all know her injuries and how hard she has fought just to be on the court. Expectations for Breanna are less because she is a freshman and we all know the struggle that includes.

The higher the expectations of you, reasonable or unreasonable, the greater the critical observation one is going to undergo. The expectations put on an AA are tremendous and are hard to fulfill. Ask Alyssa Thomas. None of the UCONN players deserve the second guessing and flack they receive at times. Not Bria. Not CD. Not Kelly. Not Breanna. Not anyone on this team.

No offense, but I think you have missed the posts that were essentially mocking Bria's accomplishments or questioning them. We wouldn't have so much backlash of the complaints if this wasn't going on.

Bria just hasn't gotten the love that a lot of other players have. I don't know that I've seen this out of the boneyard to be honest. For a lot of posters, there's barely any sympathy for Bria in her situation. This is a kid who Geno said last season, was our hardest worker. She looked every bit as good as Skylar over the summer. And she gets an injury that completely derails her entire season. Personally, I feel really bad for her.

I agree that no player deserves any sort of flack. They all work so hard and deserve support. There's no one on this team that I respect more than Caroline Doty, despite the fact that she's a shell of the player she once was. I wish we could keep Kelly for another four years. Breanna is just a freshman...she's adjusting to a LOT of things. It's just those girls don't get nearly as much flack as Bria does, and Bria does not get nearly the amount of praise that those girls do. Yes, an All American has higher expectations, but this pattern existed before she became an AA.

Overall, this team has lost 2 games and has a shot at a national championship. What is there to complain about?

edit: Let me be clear, I'm sure that it is simply a loud minority that continues the bashing of Bria. But the problem of course, is that they are loud.

 

[luckyhusky7]

Ever had a day, a month, or even a year where you have evrrything going against you and no matter how much you fix it or make it better, nothing helps.....well ive had a year like that and I'm pretty sure Bria is in that same thing with basketball right now. We just need to stop judging her and let this play out on its on. People seems to think she "conned" us of that All American status last year when in fact somewhere around is the "Big time Bria" lurking and I believe with all my heart that she'll come out of her shooting funk sooner or later......lets just be patient.

My two cents ladies and gentleman

 

[Icebear]

No, I have seen them but I have similar posts directed at Kelly and Caroline, and at Stef, too. As I said with higher expectations comes the risk of greater disappointment. Nor are members of this year the only players who have faced such undeserved criticism.

I, absolutely, agree there is no reason have any disappointment in this team. Great kids, great season.

 

[HuskyNan]

No, I have seen them but I have similar posts directed at Kelly and Caroline, and at Stef, too. As I said with higher expectations comes the risk of greater disappointment. Nor are members of this year the only players who have faced such undeserved criticism.

Again, we're not talking criticism, we're talking outright mocking. All players are fair play for criticism but I don't think kids should be mocked for their efforts.

 

[Icebear]

Again, we're not talking criticism, we're talking outright mocking. All players are fair play for criticism but I don't think kids should be mocked for their efforts.

I have seen mocking, as well. Caroline has been mocked last summer as completely incapable of playing any meaningful minutes at the point. Kelly was mocked for her failure as an offensive threat. When I use criticism it has included the behavior of mocking. I do not believe the players themselves ever deserve personal criticism Orr mocking. Critique skills, errors, lack of effort, but never let it be directed personally.

 

[Sonny44]

Well, Nan, while I respect your posts enormously, I find this thread a little bewildering. Maybe I'm not reading the Board carefully enough, but I don't see much in the way of bashing Bria or anyone else here. Missing shots on purpose? Are you kidding? Can we posters not lament the obvious, that Bria's diminished production this year, for whatever reason, constitutes a huge disappointment, and a major concern insofar as our post-season prospects are concerned, without fear of being labeled "bashers" or a bullies? Her case speaks for itself, and it's hard to see what is gained by not mentioning the obvious. I see very little mean-spirited commentary...just lots of expressions of disappointment, some of which are mine....for which I make no apology. No one is rooting for Bria to regain her lost form more than I. But if the rules of the Board suggest that subjects such as these ought not even be broached, and that our role here is just to play Pollyanna, we can certainly comply...just won't be a very interesting forum.

I think you are correct. Fan's frustration comes from two factors. First, we know we can't beat Baylor and probably not NM either without the former Bria. Second, and just as disturbing to me, the USF game where basically only two UCONN players scored. Very disturbing, 57 points by KML and Stef. All ND or Baylor has to do is suppress one of these and we're toast. Too bad, this is where I believe BB could have helped us. Who knows, there's still a chance that we can overcome these deficiencies. NC still possible, but difficult to believe in it now.

 

[doggydaddy]

I think you are correct. Fan's frustration comes from two factors. First, we know we can't beat Baylor and probably not NM either without the former Bria. Second, and just as disturbing to me, the USF game where basically only two UCONN players scored. Very disturbing, 57 points by KML and Stef. All ND or Baylor has to do is suppress one of these and we're toast. Too bad, this is where I believe BB could have helped us. Who knows, there's still a chance that we can overcome these deficiencies. NC still possible, but difficult to believe in it now.

I disagree. UConn can beat New Mexico, no problem.

Sonny, it was ONE game where that large a percentage of the scoring was by two players. Why would this be disturbing?

There are more games where Baylor, for example, has their scoring dominated by two players. Are they in trouble because of that?

 

[DaddyChoc]

DD... some people are paranoid, its laughable to me. I wonder if they ever played competive sports

 

[doggydaddy]

DD... some people are paranoid, its laughable to me. I wonder if they ever played competive sports

I don't look at that way. They are entitled to their opinions. And we are entitled to disagree.

I do throw out the occasional "unbelievable" out there, but I try not to insult them.

 

[DaddyChoc]

I don't look at that way. They are entitled to their opinions. And we are entitled to disagree.

I do throw out the occasional "unbelievable" out there, but I try not to insult them.

oh ok

 

[speedoo]

everyone would blame Bria if UConn doesnt win it all cause it would harm their ego and bragging rights...

for some this is more than just "womens basketball"

Nonsense. Try to have some respect for other BY posters.

 

[Kibitzer]

There seems to be some concern that so much of the UConn scoring vs USF came from only two players, Stef and Kaleena. This got me to thinking. I wonder how much run production the old NY Yankees got from players who were not named Ruth or Gehrig.

 

[doggydaddy]

I wonder how much run production the old NY Yankees got from players who were not named Ruth or Gehrig.

I prefer the basketball analogy of Jordan and Pippen.

 

[DaddyChoc]

Nonsense. Try to have some respect for other BY posters.

no

 

[herbiep]

I don't like all the Bria bashing on this board, but I can understand why UCONN Fans, including myself are a little nervous that without the old Bria, UCONN has very little chance of winning the National Championship. In fact even with last years Bria Hartley UCONN still might not be able to beat Baylor or Notre Dame. I do know though that without a contribution from Bria, as well as Breanna and Kiah, UCONN has very little chance of beating the above mentioned teams.

And, guess what, without old Diggins, and McBride and Achonwa, Notre Dame does not have a chance. The knife cuts both ways.

 

[vtcwbuff]

DD... some people are paranoid, its laughable to me. I wonder if they ever played competive sports

DC I played competitive sports (baseball and fast pitch softball) until I was in my 40's. That's not counting golf 'cause my golf game would never be considered competitive and I don't include shooting sports because I never thought of it as athletics. I suspect most posters on the Boneyard played competitive sports at some level.

I believe that there is absolutley nothing wrong with criticizing an athlete's performance, especially one at such an elite level.

I've asked this before and never really got an answer - is it because they're girls? Is that why so many feel obligated to defend them? I'm in no way trying to start another pissing contest, I honestly don't understand.

If I'm paranoid it's because everybody is against me.

 

[HuskyNan]

I believe that there is absolutley nothing wrong with criticizing an athlete's performance, especially one at such an elite level.

I've asked this before and never really got an answer - is it because they're girls? Is that why so many feel obligated to defend them? I'm in no way trying to start another pissing contest, I honestly don't understand.

Since I started the thread, I'll answer the question.

If you've read the entire thread, you'll see that I don't object to criticism. It's the people making fun of Bria's attempts to shoot herself out of the slump, which is what shooters are told to do, and the literal anger at her as though she were purposely trying to hurt the team. She knows she needs to play better - everyone knows that - so I'm not sure why people need to project their anger onto her as though she were sabotaging the team.

 

[doggydaddy]

Since I started the thread, I'll answer the question.

If you've read the entire thread, you'll see that I don't object to criticism. It's the people making fun of Bria's attempts to shoot herself out of the slump, which is what shooters are told to do, and the literal anger at her as though she were purposely trying to hurt the team. She knows she needs to play better - everyone knows that - so I'm not sure why people need to project their anger onto her as though she were sabotaging the team.

For me, I would add the repetative posting of the same criticism. Over and over in the same thread, we are told that UConn can't win a championship without the old Hartley, the odds of her playing better are nil, etc.., etc. I Not only is that not true, it points a finger at one player.

 

[vtcwbuff]

Since I started the thread, I'll answer the question.

If you've read the entire thread, you'll see that I don't object to criticism. It's the people making fun of Bria's attempts to shoot herself out of the slump, which is what shooters are told to do, and the literal anger at her as though she were purposely trying to hurt the team. She knows she needs to play better - everyone knows that - so I'm not sure why people need to project their anger onto her as though she were sabotaging the team.

Well, that's not me. You would know that if you lived within a city block. You would hear me screaming shoot the *&^@ ball every time Hartley or Doty hesitate on an open shot.

I'll confess I thought the few minutes in the second half where it was so obvious that the plan was get Hartley the ball were awful. I thought it a really stupid way to shoot out of a slump by putting even more pressure on Hartley.

I confess didn't read the entire thread. I find most of the hater/not hater threads predictable and usually boring. I only responded because DC called me a paranoid couch potato.

 

[doggydaddy]

"Well, that's not me."

"DC called me a paranoid couch potato."

Are you denying the couch potato part?

 

[vtcwbuff]

"Well, that's not me."

"DC called me a paranoid couch potato."

Are you denying the couch potato part?

Not bad.

 

[DaddyChoc]

well said Nan

 

[meganmatthews]

mmmmmm . . potatoes. Now I'm hungry.

 

[meyers7]

It's basketball. It's really a waste of time. If we focused as much of our energy and resources on, say, education or building a healthier community, imagine how the world would change.

Wow, your priorities are really screwed up.


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