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I'm not a "UConn back to the BE" guy, but . . .

whaler11 said:
That’s silly. They would have easily make the playoffs this year going 11-1.

They don’t make the playoffs because they aren’t good enough.


The teams that didn’t want UConn in the ACC did it so UConn would turn into this - why in the hell would they ever consider bringing them back from the dead.

There are already not enough players here to recruit. Syracuse and BC would welcome back UConn half past never.
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Oh bull...sh...it, they didn't make the playoffs because as an independent they competed against all five power conferences, that's ten teams (one or two from each conference) including maybe one G5 for a playoff spot. If they were in the ACC their only conference competition for a playoff spot would have been Clemson. You're an idiot!!! The only way they make the playoffs is if they go undefeated every year and blow out Alabama 42-0.
 
huskyrob1 said:
I think with the Big 12 it was mostly a geographic issue, they clearly have expansion in mind but westward. When the time is right they will invite teams from the Mountain West to shore up their western flank, as it's no secret that the PAC 12 wants to raid the Big 12 and take Kansas, Texas, and Oklahoma. Inviting us would have not helped them in that respect at all, and would have been geographicly untenable with schools on the east coast AND west coast. BC will not vote against us this time around and even if they did they'd be over ruled. Paul Pasqualoni and Randy Edsall both were football coaches at Syracuse, and again the rivalry issue for the ACC in the NYC - Northeast market trumps a Syracuse no vote. Besides Flipper is long gone and he was the one that convinced Syracuse to vote no last time. There weren't any no votes against UConn more recently when Louisville got in by the slimest of hairs over us.
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How can you say that there weren't any no votes against UConn in 2012 when Louisville got in? FSU, Clemson NC State, BC were all no votes at a minimum. Added to that were recommendations by Cuse and Pitt to not take UConn.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Oh bull...sh...it, they didn't make the playoffs because as an independent they competed against all five power conferences, that's ten teams (one or two from each conference) including maybe one G5 for a playoff spot. If they they were in the ACC their only conference competition for a playoff spot would have been Clemson. You're an idiot!!!
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No offense but this is one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever read.

Your premise is idiotic in general, more specifically THEY LOST TO MIAMI by 33 points.

They didn’t make the playoff because they lost 3 games. Had they beat Miami and Stanford - guess what dot dot dot - they would have been in the playoff.

No matter how many times you post that Notre Dame is going to join the ACC - they aren’t.

I don’t know why these obvious simple things upset you so much - but join us here on Earth sometime.
 
buddy said:
How can you say that there weren't any no votes against UConn in 2012 when Louisville got in? FSU, Clemson NC State, BC were all no votes at a minimum. Added to that were recommendations by Cuse and Pitt to not take UConn.
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How do you know that? Do you have a link?
 
huskyrob1 said:
Oh bull...sh...it, they didn't make the playoffs because as an independent they competed against all five power conferences, that's ten teams (one or two from each conference) including maybe one G5 for a playoff spot. If they were in the ACC their only conference competition for a playoff spot would have been Clemson. You're an idiot!!! The only way they make the playoffs is if they go undefeated every year and blow out Alabama 42-0.
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Dear moran. Here are the standings from before the Miami game AFTER THEY ALREADY HAD A LOSS.

College Football Playoff rankings: Georgia, Alabama, Notre Dame, Clemson remain in top four

Are you proposing that beating Miami and Stanford would have knocked them out of the top 4?

How do you remember to breathe?
 
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whaler11 said:
No offense but this is one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever read.

Your premise is idiotic in general, more specifically THEY LOST TO MIAMI by 33 points.

They didn’t make the playoff because they lost 3 games. Had they beat Miami and Stanford - guess what dot dot dot - they would have been in the playoff.

No matter how many times you post that Notre Dame is going to join the ACC - they aren’t.

I don’t know why these obvious simple things upset you so much - but join us here on Earth sometime.
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Is the ability to reason, and to have some foresight difficult for you? When P5 conference champions get automatic bids they could lose to Miami 55-0, but if they win the conference championship they're in.

From the New Haven Register today...

“Pac-12 and Big 12 teams haven’t made the playoff in two of its four years. It’s not going to sit well with Ohio State, missing the playoffs. And with only four teams, Notre Dame may never get in without a perfect season.”

The rock in my front yard is smarter than you are.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Is the ability to reason, and to have some foresight difficult for you? When P5 conference champions get automatic bids they could lose to Miami 55-0, but if they win the conference championship they're in.

From the New Haven Register today...

“Pac-12 and Big 12 teams haven’t made the playoff in two of its four years. It’s not going to sit well with Ohio State, missing the playoffs. And with only four teams, Notre Dame may never get in without a perfect season.”
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Your argument is some dumb comment by Jeff Jacobs? Am I supposed to be impressed by the “NEW HAVEN REGISTER”?

NOTRE DAME WAS THIRD IN THE RANKINGS WITH TWO GAMES LEFT AGAINST GOOD TEAMS.

Seriously - are you ok? This is insane.

This was 60 days ago. Are you saying that Notre Dame would not have made the playoffs at 11-1 this year?
 
huskyrob1 said:
Is the ability to reason, and to have some foresight difficult for you? When P5 conference champions get automatic bids they could lose to Miami 55-0, but if they win the conference championship they're in.

From the New Haven Register today...

“Pac-12 and Big 12 teams haven’t made the playoff in two of its four years. It’s not going to sit well with Ohio State, missing the playoffs. And with only four teams, Notre Dame may never get in without a perfect season.”

The rock in my front yard is smarter than you are.
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5 automatic bids for 4 spots?
 
upstater said:
They are about to see a radical demographic shift. The loss of Pell Grants and new restrictions on student loans coupled with the new tax on endowments is going to create havoc.
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Best post you ever made.
I'll add to your reasons the following two:
1. The economy is dog crap and getting worse and, while the employment numbers appear sanguine, the truth is that most jobs out there pay crap and people are having a harder time making ends meet than at any time since I've been aware (about 40 years).
2. The right-of-passage of middle American kids going to college is dying an overdue death. A proportion of kids who go to college don't need college and won't use most of what they learn in college when they get a job. The concept of going to college to get a 4 year liberal arts degree is, appropriately, going the way of the buggy whip. A 24 year old kid I know well went to college for 1 year and didn't do much other than party and get bad grades. After a few years of working 8$ an hour jobs, he took a 3 month crash course in javascript/programming. 6 days a week, 11 hours a day, for 3 months. Got his certification. Withing 3 months, got a job making 30$ an hour. Nothing but upside potential, set for life programming.
That's the future. With the internet and technology, the concept that you have to travel to a brick and mortar institution and have a particular individual teach you BS and BA type stuff is outdated.
The value of a BA/BS for many students at this point is that it shows you toughed out a 4 year college degree and the HS grad applying did not. Ironically, it also means you probably have a lot of debt that you need to repay, so you'll value the job more. When these stupidly expensive, middle of the road schools start contracting and closing - and they should - it will be a good thing. College is big business, and their product is becoming, in part, obsolete. Sign of the times.
 
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huskyrob1 said:
Not quite "upstater", northern Texas is about 1000 miles from Boise (Kansas is even less), as the crow flies, if driving it's more because of the mountains. Storrs is 2000 miles from northern Texas. So to say "Boise is almost as far from Texas as Connecticut" is a little bit of a stretch. All I know is Boise and Texas are both in the midwest-mountain west and Storrs is up in New England. Lol
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Eh, was way off. Just seems at opposite ends. One is on Canadian border, other has Mexican border. But no one even lives in Idaho!
 
MadDogRevival said:
Best post you ever made.
I'll add to your reasons the following two:
1. The economy is dog crap and getting worse and, while the employment numbers appear sanguine, the truth is that most jobs out there pay crap and people are having a harder time making ends meet than at any time since I've been aware (about 40 years).
2. The right-of-passage of middle American kids going to college is dying an overdue death. A proportion of kids who go to college don't need college and won't use most of what they learn in college when they get a job. The concept of going to college to get a 4 year liberal arts degree is, appropriately, going the way of the buggy whip. A 24 year old kid I know well went to college for 1 year and didn't do much other than party and get bad grades. After a few years of working 8$ an hour jobs, he took a 3 month crash course in javascript/programming. 6 days a week, 11 hours a day, for 3 months. Got his certification. Withing 3 months, got a job making 30$ an hour. Nothing but upside potential, set for life programming.
That's the future. With the internet and technology, the concept that you have to travel to a brick and mortar institution and have a particular individual teach you BS and BA type stuff is outdated.
The value of a BA/BS for many students at this point is that it shows you toughed out a 4 year college degree and the HS grad applying did not. Ironically, it also means you probably have a lot of debt that you need to repay, so you'll value the job more. When these stupidly expensive, middle of the road schools start contracting and closing - and they should - it will be a good thing. College is big business, and their product is becoming, in part, obsolete. Sign of the times.
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That's the future? I was just speaking with people in our computing program last weekend. They seem to think it is almost OVAH for programming.

If college becomes obsolete, what happens to knowledge?
 
whaler11 said:
That’s silly. They would have easily make the playoffs this year going 11-1.

They don’t make the playoffs because they aren’t good enough.


The teams that didn’t want UConn in the ACC did it so UConn would turn into this - why in the hell would they ever consider bringing them back from the dead.

There are already not enough players here to recruit. Syracuse and BC would welcome back UConn half past never.
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They said they did it because they didn't like the competition.
 
upstater said:
They said they did it because they didn't like the competition.
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Probably not going to change their mind now are they?

If Notre Dame joined the AAC - they would
be recruiting Texas for 16. Not trolling at the AAC level.
 
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huskyrob1 said:
, Flipper is probably flipping burgers at Five Guys now anyway.
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FWIW ~ DeFlippo is Sr Executive Director @ one of the largest executive search firms in the sports/entertainment industry (Turnkey). He’s doing fine.
 
chickenhead said:
Ok. So I would think a 1 loss ND gets one of the 8 all day long. No?
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They didn't have one loss they had three. Losing badly to a Miami team that lost to Pittsburgh didn't help them. Their chances year over year would be better of course with an eight team playoff, but even then they are competing with eight teams, and with the exception of one or two, all P5 teams. There were a lot of deserving teams after the top four this year, undefeated Wisconsin, Ohio State, Auburn, USC. Even Miami moves way up if they don't lose to Pittsburgh.
 
whaler11 said:
Probably not going to change their mind now are they?

If Notre Dame joined the AAC - they would
be recruiting Texas for 16. Not trolling at the AAC level.
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They would never have changed their mind anyway. It was always going to be a money thing.

If Connecticut people are going to pay for the ACC channel, they are dumb.
 
upstater said:
They would never have changed their mind anyway. It was always going to be a money thing.

If Connecticut people are going to pay for the ACC channel, they are dumb.
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Oh I know.

Not much you can do if you want to be able to watch games.
 
huskyrob1 said:
They didn't have one loss they had three. Losing badly to a Miami team that lost to Pittsburgh didn't help them. Their chances year over year would be better of course with an eight team playoff, but even then they are competing with eight teams, and with the exception of one or two, all P5 teams. There were a lot of deserving teams after the top four this year, undefeated Wisconsin, Ohio State, Auburn, USC. Even Miami moves way up if they don't lose to Pittsburgh.
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Whoever said anyone gets in with 3 losses? I thought this fight was over them not getting in unless they were undefeated or in a conference?
 
whaler11 said:
Oh I know.

Not much you can do if you want to be able to watch games.
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Either way, with cable blowing up, the allure of charging people who don't watch basketball $2 a month was something UConn had going for it.

The school might do well to take back its tier 3 rights and start its own channel. Call it ESBN. Enough of this ESPNNews crap. I'm sure the school would make out well.
 
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huskyrob1 said:
They didn't have one loss they had three. Losing badly to a Miami team that lost to Pittsburgh didn't help them. Their chances year over year would be better of course with an eight team playoff, but even then they are competing with eight teams, and with the exception of one or two, all P5 teams. There were a lot of deserving teams after the top four this year, undefeated Wisconsin, Ohio State, Auburn, USC. Even Miami moves way up if they don't lose to Pittsburgh.
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EVERYONE’S CHANCES ARE BETTER WITH AN EIGHT TEAM PLAYOFF

4/x < 8/x
 
chickenhead said:
Whoever said anyone gets in with 3 losses? I thought this fight was over them not getting in unless they were undefeated or in a conference?
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Just saying that for the record. You and SFB are bringing up a hypothetical....does a one loss ND get in this year... regardless of what other teams could have done hypothetically. What if Ohio State doesn't get blown out by Iowa, what if Miami doesn't lose to Pittsburgh? What then?
 
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huskymedic said:
FWIW ~ DeFlippo is Sr Executive Director @ one of the largest executive search firms in the sports/entertainment industry (Turnkey). He’s doing fine.
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Gee huskymedic that's so nice to hear, why don't you put up a website in his honor?
 
upstater said:
Either way, with cable blowing up, the allure of charging people who don't watch basketball $2 a month was something UConn had going for it.

The school might do well to take back its tier 3 rights and start its own channel. Call it ESBN. Enough of this ESPNNews crap. I'm sure the school would make out well.
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This athletic department can’t get out of their own way.

They are going to run a TV station?

If they could even get the t3 rights back which aren’t worth nearly as much as they used to be. Home basketball games against AAC teams. Ain’t nobody worth a damn coming to visit if their game is going to be on closed circuit CT television. Not that anyone good visits in football or basketball anyway.
 
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