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Lol. It is indeed "1". Which is exactly what I mean for my nom de guerre to be. Hence, "tightening up" is unnecessary.
Unless X is zero, in which case your identity is undefined.
Lol. It is indeed "1". Which is exactly what I mean for my nom de guerre to be. Hence, "tightening up" is unnecessary.
John Swofford cannot act unilaterally on something like that. He had to have consensus from the members to do such a thing.
Only time will tell about this one.
No doubt Virginia will be a tough sell but once it becomes obvious that, together, the SEC and the B1G will carve up the ACC to get to 16 teams each, the Cavaliers will crack like a Louisville Slugger hit on its trademark.
Those were my initial thoughts, especially before the GOR. Grab Maryland and suddenly UNC is thinking "wtf, the B1G took Maryland?! If anyone is getting a golden parachute, it's UNC!!" But the ACC does appear to be more stable now. When will the GOR lawsuit be settled?I don't think we need to wait for time to tell us. The Big Ten with Maryland has a better chance of landing UVA and UNC than without. That doesn't mean it will happen, it just means the chances with Maryland now are greater than they were before without UMD.
while there is a ton of excessive noise and wild speculation on the cr board, the idea that nothing will happen for 10 years is the craziest of them all. sounds more like wishful thinking to me.Ain't nothing happening for a while.....in 10 years, as the GOR winds down, maybe...maybe not.
I, myself, think that the the ACC will be much the same...
After several years of reading earnest blathering....FSU and Clemson to the Big 12, Miami to the Big 12, Oklahoma and Kansas to the Big Ten, Penn State to the ACC, UCF and USF to the Big 12, Texas to the ACC.I have come to realize that the Dude Virus has infected many of us.
I understand quoting Delaney, but can you believe ANYTHING in print? If he wants to expand, what would he say? "Sure, we are considering expansion, and we hope to make an offer but we really don't want Swofford to know about it, so I'm hoping he doesn't read this."Well...Delaney even stated that he thought that the ACC GOR pretty much ended B1G expansion.
"The ACC’s new grant of rights television deal—tying all 14 teams and Notre Dame into a long-term revenue sharing contract—has leveled off further realignment. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, whose conference presidents have been “evaluating” the conference landscape, said Tuesday further Big Ten expansion is unlikely.
“Given everything that has gone on, yes,” Delany said when asked about the ACC’s deal cementing the current five major conferences to their respective lineups.
Well...Delaney even stated that he thought that the ACC GOR pretty much ended B1G expansion.
"The ACC’s new grant of rights television deal—tying all 14 teams and Notre Dame into a long-term revenue sharing contract—has leveled off further realignment. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, whose conference presidents have been “evaluating” the conference landscape, said Tuesday further Big Ten expansion is unlikely.
“Given everything that has gone on, yes,” Delany said when asked about the ACC’s deal cementing the current five major conferences to their respective lineups.
Lol. It is indeed "1". Which is exactly what I mean for my nom de guerre to be. Hence, "tightening up" is unnecessary.
I agree and why I think the B1G will move on UVA.Eh, the ACC and the B1G currently share the DC market. They have not shut the ACC out of there. Not at all.
Or infinitely defined, as it were.Unless X is zero, in which case your identity is undefined.
Please remind me again why the ACC is far more stable than the Big 12? I mean, the Big 12 hosts 2 of the probably the top 5(in terms of power) football programs while the ACC has an inferior payout with no tv network. With time, the gap between the haves and have nots of the P5 will also widen with the ACC being a have not. If anyone gets restless over the next ten years, my guess is that it will be the FSUs and Clemsons of the world. Not Texas and Oklahoma.
Yes Coney but in most of the ACC there in the SEC's shadow(footprint) whereas in the Big12 they really dominate within there admittedly narrower footprint!But like you said it looks like a wash all things considered ! Outside of NC/Va I'm not sure the ACC dominates much in terms of markets !?!If indeed true that TV’s rule conference realignment, it’s clear why the ACC is stronger than the XII. While the ACC has 7 and the XII has 6 markets in the top 50 US TV markets, The ACC has 3 in the top 10 (NYC w/ Syracuse, Boston w/ BC, and DC w/ UVA while the XII only has 2 (Dallas and Houston w/ U Texas). The XII has no other markets in the Top 25 while the ACC has 3 more (Miami w/ U, Pitt w/ Pitt and RDU w/ Duke, UNC, NC St, Wake). The rest of the XII’s TV markets are Kanas City (#31), San Antonio (#36, assuming that U Texas is there), #41 Oklahoma City and #45 Austin. Both conferences also have 1 national brand in ND and Texas respectively, so I call that a wash (or a poison pill). Thus, based on potential TV revenue, the ACC is stronger.
I never got any sense of real panic from any ACC school. FSU's nervousness was driven by a completely uninformed BOT member, who commented on the league media deal, when he knew jack spit about it.
Yes Coney but in most of the ACC there in the SEC's shadow(footprint) whereas in the Big12 they really dominate within there admittedly narrower footprint!But like you said it looks like a wash all things considered ! Outside of NC/Va I'm not sure the ACC dominates much in terms of markets !?!
What about the elephant in the conference realignment living room? The SEC. What are their plans? Will they expand before or after the B1G (if at all)? Who would their likely targets be? Any talk of North Carolina to the B1G has to include speculation they stay in the ACC, move to the B1G, or move to the SEC (let's just rule out the B12 (and Pac) shall we). Who would the SEC like to squeeze more? The ACC or the B12?
For someone who wasn't trying to suck up to us you did a damn fine job. Enough to even forgive your Syracuse to the B1G lunacy.I think UVa and the North Carolina universities are misunderstood by many B1G followers. UVa is not an original ACC charter member, but they are the last flagship school that has joined the ACC. After UVa came Georgia Tech, FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College, Pitt, Syracuse, partially ND and Louisville. None of which are flagship schools for their States (although Syracuse may as well be the athletic flagship school of NY even though they are private). UVa carries a lot of weight in the ACC for a non-charter member and non-Carolinian school. And in many ways, UVa acts like the Carolina schools, barring NCSU. That tells me that UVa will go the way of UNC... and UNC is still the face of the ACC, much the way Texas is the face of the Big XII.
The idea of the B1G stealing UVa is as realistic as FSU & Clemson going to the Big XII. It could happen one day, but not in the next 12 or 14 years. The GORs is going to hold the ACC together until 2026. I think sometime around 2024, things may get interesting with the ACC. But I think the ACC, B1G and SEC are going to realize how cumbersome and unmanageable a 14+ league conference is. The SEC is already struggling with the numbers and losing tradition fast.
If the big dogs can make more than 14 schools work logistically (or the NCAA comes up with a way to keep traditions in the major conferences viable through a NFL-style playoff system), then maybe there will be more growth. IMO, the only expansion I foresee in the near future is UConn moving into the ACC or the B1G and 2 teams joining the Big XII (maybe BYU and Cincinnati or Houston) if the NCAA forces a 12 team league on them.
Not trying to be a suck-up to you Huskies, but UConn is the prize school that both the ACC and B1G whiffed on. UConn has more National Titles than the majority of B1G or ACC schools in multiple sports. UConn is a school that learns how to win and wants to win. UConn is ranked very well in the USNWR (much much higher than Louisville and higher than a bunch of ACC schools). UConn has the #30 TV market and lies smack in between NYC and Boston. UConn is a real university (flagship and land grant)... not some little private school or city commuter school.
How both the ACC and B1G missed on this, I'll never know. Personally, I think BC has some hang-up (or is threatened by) with UConn and the B1G is trying disparately to hang on to their contiguous State and AAU status rule (although UConn may be AAU already or is on the cusp I think).
So as for UVa and UConn to the B1G, I'm not sold. The NCAA may require even numbered divisions, so the ACC is stuck until ND makes a move (which will never happen). And the B1G needs one other partner along with UConn to get to 16... and their ACC and Big XII options are all tied up in GORs. So UConn may be stuck in limbo for a while unless the NCAA allows for a 15 team league. I for one really wished the ACC would have invited WVU and UConn instead of Pitt and Syracuse back in 2011. Then when Maryland left, the ACC could have added Pitt or Syracuse (although Syracuse would have been locked into the B1G at that point IMO).