If we don't make the tourney next year, does Ollie deserve to get fired?

[junglehusky]

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[John]

Interested to hear what people think.

Hanging?

 

[CTBasketball]

We were long overdue for one of these abominations...

 

[mauconnfan]

 

[UConnSwag11]

 

[Kembacity]

Interested to hear what people think.

I think that the question itself is too brief to answer accurately. If the team is fully healthy and we miss the tourney I wouldn't be against him being fired, or at least the school making a statement to him that his ass is on the line. If we suffer 1 major injury, I will no longer feel like the team is a tournament lock, so missing it wouldn't mean that much about Ollie's skills as a coach

 

[CallMeBruce]

I think that the question itself is too brief to answer accurately. If the team is fully healthy and we miss the tourney I wouldn't be against him being fired, or at least the school making a statement to him that his ass is on the line. If we suffer 1 major injury, I will no longer feel like the team is a tournament lock, so missing it wouldn't mean that much about Ollie's skills as a coach

Do you think that the team, as currently constructed, is a "lock" for the tournament?

 

[Kembacity]

Do you think that the team, as currently constructed, is a "lock" for the tournament?

In our conference, yeah, maybe lock isn't the right word, but if healthy, I think the talent is definitely there for the team to win most of the games in the AAC and make the tournament as like a 5-9

 

[Milo65]

 

[RipCity]

I'm with the OP.









Andre and I are driving him to the insane asylum now.

 

[CallMeBruce]

In our conference, yeah, maybe lock isn't the right word, but if healthy, I think the talent is definitely there for the team to win most of the games in the AAC and make the tournament as like a 5-9

You'd have a hard time convincing me that next year's team will have more talent than this year's team, assuming no further additions, and this year's team was a ways from being a tournament team.

 

[JimHurley]

Stop. I think Kevin Ollie will still be coaching UConn in the year 2040. He'll become a better recruiter and evolve into a better coach over time.

 

[Kembacity]

You'd have a hard time convincing me that next year's team will have more talent than this year's team, assuming no further additions, and this year's team was a ways from being a tournament team.

Well maybe I would have a hard time, but I never once said a word about next year's team compared to this year's team, so thanks for inferring that and telling me I'm wrong.. Theres so much of that on this board it's maddening.

This year's team could have won 5 more games very easily. Just a few stupid mistakes per game away from being a bubble team. Not sure if you watched the tourney, but in the early rounds there were a lot of awful looking shots and bad turnovers like we've been watching all year. No clue why you think this year's team was completely untalented just because they lost a lot of games and had a disappointing year. The ball bounces a different way and a lot of those losses are wins. I think the team did the opposite the year before, and won or almost won a lot of games they didn't deserve to win

 

[CallMeBruce]

Well maybe I would have a hard time, but I never once said a word about next year's team compared to this year's team, so thanks for inferring that and telling me I'm wrong.. Theres so much of that on this board it's maddening.

This year's team could have won 5 more games very easily. Just a few stupid mistakes per game away from being a bubble team. Not sure if you watched the tourney, but in the early rounds there were a lot of awful looking shots and bad turnovers like we've been watching all year. No clue why you think this year's team was completely untalented just because they lost a lot of games and had a disappointing year. The ball bounces a different way and a lot of those losses are wins. I think the team did the opposite the year before, and won or almost won a lot of games they didn't deserve to win

I swear to god, the whining on this site is unbearable. I'm not apologizing for interpreting your stupid thoughts in a perfectly reasonable way. You think next year's team should be a tournament lock, I'm sorry, that's not supported by the facts.

 

[3rdbass]

Next off season is critical to KO as far as recruiting. If he misses bad next year and he doesn't bring in any impact players with DHAM probably leaving then it could mean the end of his reign as coach. I'm sure they will give him at least 3 bad years to prove himself but I don't think we can afford 4 years of missing the tourney with the precarious position we are in due to our conference affiliation. I hope KO can do it and I like many feel he needs to make a staff change to accomplish this.

 

[Excalibur]

The mediocrity around this place is sickening.

No better example than your original post . . .

 

[Husky25]

7 people agreed with my vote, so I'm not that crazy.

Is this a take-off of the old Eddie Murphy bit about voting for Jesse Jackson for President?

"He won?!?!"

 

[JimHurley]

Next off season is critical to KO as far as recruiting. If he misses bad next year and he doesn't bring in any impact players with DHAM probably leaving then it could mean the end of his reign as coach. I'm sure they will give him at least 3 bad years to prove himself but I don't think we can afford 4 years of missing the tourney with the precarious position we are in due to our conference affiliation. I hope KO can do it and I like many feel he needs to make a staff change to accomplish this.

Ollie needs to find someone that can get recruits. I'm waiting for him to hire Rip or Ray Ray. If those guys are going to recruits houses, that will make a difference. We need an experienced NBA player as a recuiter.

 

[tcf15]

Ollie needs to find someone that can get recruits. I'm waiting for him to hire Rip or Ray Ray. If those guys are going to recruits houses, that will make a difference. We need an experienced NBA player as a recuiter.

No, we need an experienced recruiter as a recruiter. Just because you played in the NBA doesn't mean you necessarily know all the ins and outs of recruiting.

 

[gtcam]

This is probably the dumbest statement I have ever read about a message board. Congrats.

Almost as dumb as the 4 idiots who as of 10:50 AM this morning voted YES to firing him

 

[Husky25]

Ollie needs to find someone that can get recruits. I'm waiting for him to hire Rip or Ray Ray. If those guys are going to recruits houses, that will make a difference. We need an experienced NBA player as a recuiter.

I disagree.

A former player does not always a good recruiter make. Recruits want to hear the answer to one sole, single, solitary question and that answer had better be, "yes." The question is, "Can you get me to the NBA?"

Calipari can, K can, Self can, Calhoun could, and what's more about these four coaches, they can (could) prove it with numerous real life examples. Calhoun said on CenterStage, that before he had that particular bullet in his chamber, he recruited based on the conference. (Big East had 3 teams in the Final Four in 1987). Ollie has a hard time using the AAC as a recruiting tool so he has to rely on coaching his team up and put a few in the lottery.

 

[UCbcm]

We need to hire prominent AAU coach--we don't need anymore former UConn players. Whether some former players may be better/more influential than others is another issue.

 

[CallMeBruce]

No, we need an experienced recruiter as a recruiter. Just because you played in the NBA doesn't mean you necessarily know all the ins and outs of recruiting.

I can't believe how many people think that Richard Hamilton and Ray Allen are some sort of quick-fix to recruiting. If big-name NBA players were such an easy way to dominate recruiting, more schools would do it.

 

[Leebo]

Almost as dumb as the 4 idiots who as of 10:50 AM this morning voted YES to firing him

Well, we know non-UConn fans lurk and post.

 

[3rdbass]

Ollie needs to find someone that can get recruits. I'm waiting for him to hire Rip or Ray Ray. If those guys are going to recruits houses, that will make a difference. We need an experienced NBA player as a recuiter.

No we need a real recruiter who has been on the trail and has AAU connections. We already have a young coach in KO with no experience as well as a few other coaches in Kelis Fisher and RM who have limited experience. We need someone who knows how to recruit not just another fancy name.

 

[JimHurley]

No we need a real recruiter who has been on the trail and has AAU connections. We already have a young coach in KO with no experience as well as a few other coaches in Kelis Fisher and RM who have limited experience. We need someone who knows how to recruit not just another fancy name.

I guess you're right. I just think that if a player like Rip Hamilton was recruiting you and you know how successful he was in the league, it'd be intriguing.

 

[Stainmaster]

I guess you're right. I just think that if a player like Rip Hamilton was recruiting you and you know how successful he was in the league, it'd be intriguing.

NBA success means nothing if you don't have the ability to verbally persuade kids and connect with them on a personal level.

 

[Gurleyman]

No, we need an experienced recruiter as a recruiter. Just because you played in the NBA doesn't mean you necessarily know all the ins and outs of recruiting.

Hobbs has been recruiting for 20 years. Rip, KEA and Caron were his guys as an assistant. He had some success at GW too before tailing off. They were 29-3 in 2006. On paper, his resume blows the doors off of Slice, who's big gets as an assistant were Chris Taft, Sam Young, and Levance Fields and who was an abject failure as a head coach by any reasonable analysis. Now of course Slice is well plugged in to the NYC AAU world and has a good reputation, otherwise Kentucky wouldn't have waved big money at him. And obviously after a couple years at Kentucky, he'll have some bigger names to drop than Chris Taft.

But Slice isn't coming to us. A young rising star of the AAU circuit (say, Book Richardson a couple years ago before landing at Arizona) might not want the challenge of recruiting to the AAC. If we cleaned house, do we find anyone better than Hobbs willing to come here? Maybe, but maybe not. My feeling is that the early leg work hasn't been a problem in the last two years - we've cast a wide net and gotten in on a lot of quality guys. That's what the assistants need to do. Closing to some degree has been an issue, and to me, that falls on the head guy, and I'm wiling to be patient with KO on it. It was a challenge to recruit a wing one class behind Hamilton, and Stone was never going to be an easy get. It's still too soon to make a panic move until at least we see how the 2016 class (and/or early commitments from 2017) pan out.

 

[Husky25]

I guess you're right. I just think that if a player like Rip Hamilton was recruiting you and you know how successful he was in the league, it'd be intriguing.

Recruits literally don't care. They don't want to hear what another player has done. They want to hear what the coach can do for them. Again, it's about convincing the kid he will go to the NBA and the school is the main conduit to that end.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

The funny thing is that some time last summer this kid probably posted "don't leave KO you're a god!"