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If Edsall gets fired, who's on short list of potential HC?

Why is he old and ready to retire or get fired?
It's time for him to make a move. If he can turn UConn -- or another bottom dweller like Rice -- around, then he could go P5.
 
He is not a cure-all but here is one name. Jason Tyler Candle -- is currently the head football coach at the University of Toledo. Doesn't mean that Randy should be fired -- but if an opening occurs, he is an option.

If I’m the head coach at Toledo I don’t leave that gig for this one...
 
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Notre Dame lowered standards as have a number of other schools. I am not saying go JUCO only types, but take the pressure of of the coaches in who they can recruit and who they can't.
 
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I think Randy is part of the problem - reminds me of how Woody Hayes couldn’t adjust to the passing game changes at the time.
Susan is thankfully gone now as is Larry McHugh , who influenced hiring.
The conference is an issue but scheduling could mitigate it.
If we don’t have people who can’t get the job done they need to be let go and bring in people who can apply fresh thinking.

Schedule? What schedule? UConn has no schedule.

You are completely missing the point. Randy Edsall was hired to be the problem. The Administration made a strategic decision to sacrifice football for the sake of the basketball brand. Having made that strategic decision, the Administration reached the quite obvious corollary that the most logical football future is no football at all. That is what is going on. The pieces are being arranged to shut the program down with as little angst as possible. It's like a real-life NCAA version of the movie Major League.

Why would any coach stick his head into that noose?
 
Schedule? What schedule? UConn has no schedule.

You are completely missing the point. Randy Edsall was hired to be the problem. The Administration made a strategic decision to sacrifice football for the sake of the basketball brand. Having made that strategic decision, the Administration reached the quite obvious corollary that the most logical football future is no football at all. That is what is going on. The pieces are being arranged to shut the program down with as little angst as possible. It's like a real-life NCAA version of the movie Major League.

Why would any coach stick his head into that noose?
I fear the biggest con/screw job ever is well underway. The silence, the lack of activity tells you bad sheet is happening. If they do it, Im totally done. Couldn’t careless what happens to BB at that point.
 
If I’m the head coach at Toledo I don’t leave that gig for this one...
It was also unlikely Rhett Lashlee was going to leave his old post to come to UConn. But he did. Even though he stayed for only a short time, he did come here. It provides an example that sometimes people just take something for a short period of time and try it out. Maybe, a promising head coach would come to Storrs for three years. Then, head out.
 
With the relationship bennidct has with lashlee I say you try to bring him back as HC for 1.5 to 2 mill somehow. He wants to be a HC I can see him comin back if it’s his show

Would have to pony up a lot more than that to lure Lashlee back to UCONN. Didn’t seem very engaged while here and he will get a ton more appealing offers.
 
Think FCS head coach or division 2. That’s where UCONN needs to be looking.

Find a coach who isn’t stuck in the 1960s, with very good organizational management skills, and make them clearly spell out their vision for the program including recruiting philosophy.

And once again, i have zero faith Benedict will do any of this.
 
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It was also unlikely Rhett Lashlee was going to leave his old post to come to UConn. But he did. Even though he stayed for only a short time, he did come here. It provides an example that sometimes people just take something for a short period of time and try it out. Maybe, a promising head coach would come to Storrs for three years. Then, head out.

Lashlee was on the outs at Auburn (and of course the offensive credit was all going to Malzahn anyways). UConn was a paycheck, he left at the first opportunity, heading back south to a similar type of institution with a raise and a more compatible head coach. Not to mention, at that point in time, UConn was much more attractive, new coach, solid conference, and without the baggage of a two-year FBS losing streak.

In this environment no FBS coach with options is considering a jump to UConn. At best it's lateral, but the money, conference situation and frankly the talent level offers little-no upside for a coach already in a FBS school, unless they, like Lashlee, are on the outs and need a paycheck.

If you want promising/up and coming you're going to need to go down a level to find a coach who would find UConn as an opportunity, or a mid-major coordinator looking to add Head Coach to their resume (P5 coordinators are making similar money to what UConn offers and have a better spring-board for better head coaching opportunities and can/will be more selective). Beyond the talent deficit, the conference situation, the pay, and the constant turnover have made UConn one of the worst head-coaching jobs in FBS.
 
Lashlee was on the outs at Auburn (and of course the offensive credit was all going to Malzahn anyways). UConn was a paycheck, he left at the first opportunity, heading back south to a similar type of institution with a raise and a more compatible head coach. Not to mention, at that point in time, UConn was much more attractive, new coach, solid conference, and without the baggage of a two-year FBS losing streak.

In this environment no FBS coach with options is considering a jump to UConn. At best it's lateral, but the money, conference situation and frankly the talent level offers little-no upside for a coach already in a FBS school, unless they, like Lashlee, are on the outs and need a paycheck.

If you want promising/up and coming you're going to need to go down a level to find a coach who would find UConn as an opportunity, or a mid-major coordinator looking to add Head Coach to their resume (P5 coordinators are making similar money to what UConn offers and have a better spring-board for better head coaching opportunities and can/will be more selective). Beyond the talent deficit, the conference situation, the pay, and the constant turnover have made UConn one of the worst head-coaching jobs in FBS.
What about Rob Ambrose at Townson. He is former OC for UConn.
 
Think FCS head coach or division 2. That’s where UCONN needs to be looking.

Find a coach who isn’t stuck in the 1960s, with very good organizational management skills, and make them clearly spell out their vision for the program including recruiting philosophy.

And once again, i have zero faith Benedict will do any of this.

Briles is still out there and he’ll come here cheaper than an FCS or D2 coach
 
What I find the perpetual “can’t do” folks amusing, as if UConn has managed to be too good academically to attract players, but not quite good enough to attract higher academically qualified types, can’t recruit because of location but m have high level facilities in a good location, yet can’t ever compete with school sheet holes like U of Buff, or schools on the middle of nowhere. It’s just such nonsense. It’s engrained loser mentality. UConn can do as good as any other school with half an effort.
I completely agree. You offer a competitive salary to all of your coaches. You hire a HC that would instantly add credibility to your program. And recruits will come, the stadium would fill up, TV would want us, etc.
 
Lashlee was on the outs at Auburn (and of course the offensive credit was all going to Malzahn anyways). UConn was a paycheck, he left at the first opportunity, heading back south to a similar type of institution with a raise and a more compatible head coach. Not to mention, at that point in time, UConn was much more attractive, new coach, solid conference, and without the baggage of a two-year FBS losing streak.

In this environment no FBS coach with options is considering a jump to UConn. At best it's lateral, but the money, conference situation and frankly the talent level offers little-no upside for a coach already in a FBS school, unless they, like Lashlee, are on the outs and need a paycheck.

If you want promising/up and coming you're going to need to go down a level to find a coach who would find UConn as an opportunity, or a mid-major coordinator looking to add Head Coach to their resume (P5 coordinators are making similar money to what UConn offers and have a better spring-board for better head coaching opportunities and can/will be more selective). Beyond the talent deficit, the conference situation, the pay, and the constant turnover have made UConn one of the worst head-coaching jobs in FBS.

I would say high school or some lower division college coach so off the radar as to not have better options in the MAC or as a coordinator at a P5 program.

Think Joe Moorehead while he was at Columbia or Fordam or wherever the heck he was before Penn State made him their OC. We can't attract someone with that good a resume.
 
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Would have to pony up a lot more than that to lure Lashlee back to UCONN. Didn’t seem very engaged while here and he will get a ton more appealing offers.
First time head coach who has a known dream of coaching... might have a chance
 
First time head coach who has a known dream of coaching... might have a chance

Zero chance. His work at SMU will garner him far better offers in states he is familiar with. I can’t think of a less appealing job than UCONN. No support from administration on assistant coaching salary, no league affiliation.

Needs to be a guy from lower levels making $500,000 a year as a head coach AND someone who is extremely motivated to win with no support and no resources. It’s a tall task but I believe there are coaches like this in FCS and D 2.
 
Ok, so Tulane has dumb players. What school has the dumbest posters?

Seriously? That’s what you come up with? I will make sure I run grammar check after every post and mail back my diplomas in shame. My apologies for the egregious grammatical error.
 
Seriously? That’s what you come up with? I will make sure I run grammar check after every post and mail back my diplomas in shame. My apologies for the egregious grammatical error.
Sorry, couldn't resist, it stuck out like a sore thumb. Compounded by posts discussing dumb Tulane players.
 
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Needs to be a guy from lower levels making $500,000 a year as a head coach AND someone who is extremely motivated to win with no support and no resources. It’s a tall task but I believe there are coaches like this in FCS and D 2.

This is the wrong type of thinking.

The reason this is the wrong type of thinking is pretty simple, actually. If you are looking for a diamond in the rough on the cheap, then you need to have a highly competent organization capable of identifying that person out of all the others who would make your footbal situation worse.

What recent news about our current organization gives you confidence that they can identify the diamond in the rough??? No. We need to pay more so that we can get more. And not just the head coach, but the assistants as well...
 
This is the wrong type of thinking.

The reason this is the wrong type of thinking is pretty simple, actually. If you are looking for a diamond in the rough on the cheap, then you need to have a highly competent organization capable of identifying that person out of all the others who would make your footbal situation worse.

What recent news about our current organization gives you confidence that they can identify the diamond in the rough??? No. We need to pay more so that we can get more. And not just the head coach, but the assistants as well...

Exactly. That’s the depressing part. There are geniuses at lower levels just waiting for a chance. It will take a commitment to find and hire them. No confidence we have administration who can.

And assistant coaching salary is huge. And that doesn’t look like it will ever change unfortunately.

If I’m running the show? I’m looking for a young head coach at FCS or D2 level who has won at that level and has clear vision on roster management and recruiting. Strong management and communication skills. Runs a 21st century offense. Then I would overpay for recruiters (doesn’t matter what their assistant coach title is) - dynamic coaches who know how to recruit kids in the 21st century.

This team needs an overhaul in X’s and O’s and Jimmies and Joes.
 
I think Randy is part of the problem - reminds me of how Woody Hayes couldn’t adjust to the passing game changes at the time.
Susan is thankfully gone now as is Larry McHugh , who influenced hiring.
The conference is an issue but scheduling could mitigate it.
If we don’t have people who can’t get the job done they need to be let go and bring in people who can apply fresh thinking.

I can't wait to see Edsall punch an opposing player. Lol
 
Lowering academic standards for football would be huge mistake. The reason UConn exists is for academics, not football. The coach needs to work with what he’s got and make the players better. The fans need to have realistic expectations for UConn football. The ceiling for UConn football is probably 4-5 wins in a good year and 6-7 wins in an exceptionally good year.a’ UConn would also need to schedule strategically to achieve those results ( meaning very few P5 games).

Good athletics make a school more attractive to all students. UConn's incoming classes improved greatly when BB started getting good. I don't buy the "lowering standards for football would be a huge mistake" argument. If big time football can work at state universities across the country, it can work for UConn. It is a shame that New England - and Connecticut, in particular - have such a snobbish attitude when it comes to D1 sports.
 
Good athletics make a school more attractive to all students. UConn's incoming classes improved greatly when BB started getting good. I don't buy the "lowering standards for football would be a huge mistake" argument. If big time football can work at state universities across the country, it can work for UConn. It is a shame that New England - and Connecticut, in particular - have such a snobbish attitude when it comes to D1 sports.
If UConn did slightly lower their standards for football recruiting, another benefit might be more interest from available head coach candidates. The big question is would the BOT and the new president go along with that?
 
I completely agree. You offer a competitive salary to all of your coaches. You hire a HC that would instantly add credibility to your program. And recruits will come, the stadium would fill up, TV would want us, etc.
Maybe we can hire the next Scott frost for 35 million and get beat by 30 to Minnesota?
 
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