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HFD all you need is to filter the message. Most people are intimidated by an avalanche of information. One thing I will say, unfiltered ideas are why many successful companies (no offense) use kids as their focus groups. Their ideas are not bound by convention or pc. They give their reactions and the marketing gurus interpret the data and set the strategy to reach the target market. Just need some structure to put those ideas to work.

i understand and agree jim. i just dont care here but i feel i am forced to soon. if i make my post here with my dieas nd stuff, it will be written in a professional way, not my typical text type and grammar lack.
 
I love your energy HFD but UConn did not turn down the ACC twice. Not even once.
 
uconn to the b10 soon. i have no timeline or date to be guessed. uconn has been invited to the acc twice in 2 years and said no thanks we will wait and see both times. all of the media and pr post those have been mostly fake/ugly/amied on purpose. espn only pumps uconn when it need to for th acc and the bc ad 2 years ago said what he did becuase he helped uconn get that invite back then and then we said no thanks becuase the b10 came offering, he then was upset and spiteful. the cold war was born. that was day 1 of the rift of how uconn rose enough so quickly that is passed cuse, pitt and bc in the bcs world. just wait and see....i can go on for hourse about the past couple years and ever thing from ads, espn and other media comments. crow more like corn pie.
Seriously Dan, I want to know what it is that your are drinking and how in hell it is still legal to buy it in this country.
 
uconn to the b10 soon. i have no timeline or date to be guessed. uconn has been invited to the acc twice in 2 years and said no thanks we will wait and see both times. all of the media and pr post those have been mostly fake/ugly/amied on purpose. espn only pumps uconn when it need to for th acc and the bc ad 2 years ago said what he did becuase he helped uconn get that invite back then and then we said no thanks becuase the b10 came offering, he then was upset and spiteful. the cold war was born. that was day 1 of the rift of how uconn rose enough so quickly that is passed cuse, pitt and bc in the bcs world. just wait and see....i can go on for hourse about the past couple years and ever thing from ads, espn and other media comments. crow more like corn pie.

So you're saying we told the ACC to piss off twice because we had our eyes on B1G?

Um, ok. I will gladly eat that crow, because that is one of the nuttier things I've heard.
 
HFD- when the hell did Uconn turn down 1 invitation to the ACC? Let alone 2? Kid you really are going all crazy. Im as fired up as you are but your crazy. Theres no way uconn would turn down 2 offers after they see what SHIT the new big east is. Please dude stop making shit up with your fake phony "Connections" Lets start a movement with true facts and not BS. Dan you have good ideas but please stop acting like your some undercover conference realignment guy. with that said blow up Warde/Susy's emails. GET EM HFD!!!!
 
for anyone who disbelieves his theory, reread herbst's comment the day before the acc vote to add louisville, and then her written statement given thereafter. combine this with herbst's and manuel's decision to go forward with their thanksgiving vacation in the virgin islands while louisville's ad was back on the mainland marshalling and directing louisville's lobbying effort.

if you do, you're going to tell your loved ones, you're going to sea.

I am not folllowing the flotilla to Rhode Island. I have no reason to think any of you can steer it safely. On the other hand, I'm in on the action to take I-287 through Westchester by force. My wife asked me to ask if we can annex a half mile on each side of the road, which should be sufficient so we can raid and pillage The Westchester.
 
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I am not folllowing the flotilla to Rhode Island. I have no reason to think any of you can steer it safely. On the other hand, I'm in on the action to take I-287 through Westchester by force. My wife asked me to ask if we can annex a half mile on each side of the road, which should be sufficient so we can raid and pillage The Westchester.
BL,

I have yet to meet your wife but for some reason I have a feeling that it wouldn't be the first time she pillaged the Westchester.
 
Am I the only one that pictures HFD's living room to look like John Nash's work room in A Beautiful Mind? Newspaper clippings of all of the conferences taped up on a wall with lines crossed all over the place and different words circled. The floor littered with empty Red Bull cans and Popov bottles.

I'm rooting for your craziness to be real if for no other reason than telling the ACC to stuff it to join the B1G would make me laugh for a week.
 
I've got your back Dan. I liked your total post and appreciate your commitment to our University. Need more fans like you. I actually have faith in BOTH Herbst and Manuel, but hear your 'concern' about the potential to lose focus on 2 very important issues while focusing on/awaiting resolution to another very important issue. Keep me(us) up to date on what you're doing / thinking.

Well said. Agree with 95% of this (for me, jury still out on Warde). Dan, i'm in your posse...
 
I want it to be true that UConn turned down the ACC for the B1G. I guess I don't want it quite as much as Dan does though, mainly cause I STILL WANT TO GET THE duck* OUT OF THE NNNNNBE END OF STORY!!!!!!
 
HFD I still think you'd be great for the PR dept. Dunno if I'm totally on board with the belief in the B1G but I'd gladly eat crow if I was wrong! I hope whatever you have up your sleeve is legit!
 
I am not folllowing the flotilla to Rhode Island. I have no reason to think any of you can steer it safely.

Come on BL, this will scare the out of everyone when they see it sailing east in Long Island Sound!

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story time as warde nears his deadline:

back in the summer of 2011 susan herbst started here at uconn. she was already familiar with the acc and what was going on. so when she took charge she knew that the acc had its eyes on 2 to 4 teams to expand with soon. she knew that a internal study done by acc ppl(which was later leaked by fsu becuase they wern't happy) showed that wvu, uconn/ruty, lville, cuse and pitt were the most valueable in order from the big east. back then swofford was on a high horse becuase he thought he was going to detroy the big east and its bball by using fball and espn as a home for the big boys. swofford passed on wvu becuase he knew they wouldn't get in on academics. tobacco road and north wouldn't view them as worthy and vt didn't want wvu a powerhouse potential and great history in the same league so close to them. remember vt was still riding that streak of great years then burning in bcs games. one of the first things susan did was go to bc and smooth things over with the govener. she knew a good amount of the acc already and aso knew that she needed to start north on a good footing. she did one hell of a job. but we also were at the time developing a major relationship with rutgers in everything possible. thats where we started our b10 talks. we filled out the application just like ruty had done a full year in advance like that and soon after started talking to them. thats why we quietly invested in figuring out the hockey situation back then. the b10 was starting a puck league and looking at new england. among all the reasons in new england to look for chools, down the list a few bullets was the puck league and how could they penetrate hockey east and potenital use its big names and tv brand to trump it long term. there is inverntory and $ to be made at the high levels of puck if done right and the b10 owns puck land about everywhere acept new england. susan saw this as a major flaw in uconn.

the rent was expandable, and research could be upped in time but puck needed action. so thats why it was decided on so quickly. it made us have that extra positive. tis is why her vision is what it is and why she hired warde. so back to late summer 2011. the acc has its study and now knowing wvu is off the board, wvu starts to look around. the acc wanted ruty and uconn. together the 2 came to the conclusion of what the future was holding in CR that it was better to stay put in the short term and see what happens before making moves later. they asumed slots would be there later for them and that they could keep the fball league together for a couple more years in doing so. what they didn't plan on was this. cuse and pitt were then invited and the acc was pissed about being denied. cuse and pitt are private and half private schools who grew up as fball powers that now are a bit washed up and dream bball like the dukes of the world. the acc is the perfect conf for them and they took bait asap.

this was the first time ruty and uconn realized how bad espn wanted to shrink its holdings by 1 league and was willing pr wise to damage them. they not to say misplayed, but miscounted for how agressive espn would get. i still to this day agree with the moves. anyway wvu was searching and begging the sec. there was even rumors of pitt going with them before they pulled the acc trigger. remember those? 2 teams from the same market lol. wvu found a great filler slot in the b12 and left imediately. the reason? becuase of academics once they found out that 2 of the 3 confs were not possible, u might as well fill your slot and not hang around so that u dont get passed. sounds familiar(cough lville cough). so that was the first go around in which uconn and ruty passed on acc invites.

fast forward. uconn is aiming incredibly high research and faculty wise. why? for fun? anyway, the b10 has been sniffing around for a long time and they got md and ruty. i have already given my position on this whole CR move the past month on the CR board so i'm not going thru it again. we were invited and decided to wait again. in order for lville to be taken by the acc it shows whats going on. it shows that enough slots will be open that academics now dont matter(cough wvu pass up last year), it shows that those schools voting ok who have academics high are seeing other possibilities and it shows schools are being nasty. fsu is going to stick the acc with bull crap on puepose and pull the b12 trigger when it feels time to do so. it wants nothing more than duke and lville and cincy to hang out. thats revenge for not getting wvu fball into the league. thats the rift.

why did uconn pass up a 2nd time? becuase the b10 is still the gaol and the acc will always have slots open if we dont get to the b10. the difference is this, susan is be strategic in this. shes willing to fly the big east flag until it cant be flown any more(getting close) and then move to the b10. small exit fee and no pr hit for it. if she went to the acc and then the b10 its a car crash pr wise as espn can then assult u and the $ is a lot worse. just imagine aafter all the years, espn gets u into the acc and then u bail. can u imagine the pr from that?!?!?!!? and your telling me we dont already gave pr issues from a old lawsuit to the arp thing? jesus christ she is making a GREAT strategic decision and everyone one of u old bball hacks (sorry thats not right of me ut emphasis..) doesn't see it becuase your blind to the situation and grew up on the acc being a quality league. its not any more and its future is not bringht.

we passed on the acc twice and are going b10. if we dont make the b10 cut, then the acc will always have a slot for us. the minute then rushed and took lville for pr reasons so that espn doesn't lose everything to fox told u that. sit down, relax and get coach p and d the hell out of here. i beg all of u to help get this done thru media pressure. we need to hit the b10 in 2014 with a new coach in year 2 of a rebuild and not year 1. that would be the year whitmer-davis-phillips-lyle-frank would all be seniors if u get my drift. potential is great if ppl here would sstop letting espn and the pr control there lives. do u believe everything u see on tv and the internet? then how come 99% of u all follow the uconn is in CR all the time? why becuase the bc ad was pissed he got played and decided to shoot his mouht off and try to look like he won instead? why do u think the other acc ppl and espn just told him to sshhh right away and we said nothing back? becuase we knew he went out of his way and was going to look bad to bc fans who hated uconn, so when we played him the cold war was taken to a new level. let him have his fun becuase we were in the process of passing him. so bet it ...

bc ad retires, jc retires and several other interesting things the past half year. why? bcuase each one of them had lives there lives by saying things. jc wasn't coaching anywhere but the big east and the bc ad would never let uconn in. little did the bc ad know we would turn down a invite a 2nd time. what we didn't know is that the acc would fall apart so quickly. we didn't know md was so high on the b10s list. we thought ruty and uconn were the move together.

so here we are, still have b10 eyes and a foot going that way but we are in the big east with cincy, temple and cusa. we passed the acc again and lville now went in a desperate measure by espn/acc to fill slots and show strenght to fox. what we didn't account for was unc/gtech types also having b10 eyes and getting them before us so we are stuck in a tough slot. i have faith in susan but either way we will be ok. as u read all this in time slots in your head think back to what espn wa spumping each time and what happened, then think post each move what espn pumped. yea, its funny now when u relaize it...

its 12, good luck to u warde beucase i will wage a war that will make nam look like 2 kids playing at mcdonalds. fire coach p and gdl!
 
HFD, I'm not sure what is more difficult to deal with, your spelling, your grammar or your questionable (often non-existent) punctuation. A few different times I had to read a sentence at least twice to figure out what it was that you were saying. My conclusion is that you've moved from alcohol to some form of hallucinogen.

Good luck tomorrow.
 
Um, so, ahhhhh.....none of that is actually true.
 
Um, so, ahhhhh.....none of that is actually true.

even the part that cuse and pitt joined the acc? man oh man am i off then. dam. so who did join the acc? was it usf?
 
misplayed? miscounted? What words are these?
 
Dude, enough.

We didn't turn down the ACC once, twice or even three times. UConn was Fed Ex'ing and faxing info to ACC members right up to the point that they were told it was a no-go.

And the Big Ten vetted UConn back in 2009/2010. We're not even on their B-list.

Cozy up - we're in this conference until someone decides to pluck another ACC team or two.
 
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Um, so, ahhhhh.....none of that is actually true.

Actually Fishy, Dan is 100% accurate with "...the acc being a quality league. its not any more and its future is not bringht", if nothing else. Irrespective of whether Dan actually does possess actual inside info from a legit source, or he's just another R. Crowe from A Beautiful Mind with a bottle of Jack in one hand and his little blankie in the other as many here surmise, that "truth" is undeniable.

Absent ND going all in, the acc is not sustainable revenue wise as compared to the Big 4 and is Dead Man Walking...

#B1GHARDER
 
BL,

I have yet to meet your wife but for some reason I have a feeling that it wouldn't be the first time she pillaged the Westchester.

Sorry -- buying stuff and pulling out the Gold Card is not "pillaging." I want a full out sack where the victors simply take stuff.
 
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Actually Fishy, Dan is 100% accurate with....

Actually, Dan is bat s*** crazy. His UConn/ACC theory is ridiculous and doesn't even have a toe dipping into reality.

I think you're going to find that the ACC is more sustainable than you think - and you should hope it is. In a four-conference scenario, UConn is not included. We're not even included in the the five-conference scenario, so all the "wishcasting" hope for the demise of the ACC is incredibly wrong-headed.
 
Crazy or not, good salesman spin on the situation. Instead of the ACC knowing that UConn/Cinci are ready and waiting to join the ACC while they look for "better" options and internal conflict, we are in the power position. UConn is holding off for the B10 invite we have been working for 3 years knowing that we can join the ACC at any time. Nice.

What actor would play HFD in Conspiracy Theory 2? I don't think Mel Gibson would be in for that sequel.
 
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Actually, Dan is bat s*** crazy. His UConn/ACC theory is ridiculous and doesn't even have a toe dipping into reality.

I think you're going to find that the ACC is more sustainable than you think - and you should hope it is. In a four-conference scenario, UConn is not included. We're not even included in the the five-conference scenario, so all the "wishcasting" hope for the demise of the ACC is incredibly wrong-headed.

Yep. The B1G may be a dream scenario...but so is winning half a billion in Powerball. It's simply not something you can hang your hat on. It isn't a viable plan. It isn't even a backup plan.

So our best realistic scenario is UConn to the ACC in place of somebody else, or should Notre Dame decide to go all in when their NBC deal is up. That's about it. So we might want to think about wishing the ACC well and spiffing up our image.

I don't know what they hell everyone's problem is, but we're a program that has played college football at this level for a very short time. We don't pack the stadium or have huge traveling caravans of fans (have any of you seen a Nebraska road game?). We had a few decent seasons...this wasn't one of them. Our basketball is excellent and Olympics are solid. If any of you thinks that the ACC isn't good enough for UConn you really are delusional. We fit geographically, academically and athletically. Those are the facts. It would be a very good situation for UConn. Is the ACC as strong as some other conferences in football? Not right now, no. But it is better in basketball (B1G looks very good this year though) once Cuse, Pitt and ND join, very strong in soccer and very strong in baseball. Football will be better than it is right now, as UNC comes off of sanctions and BC brings in a decent coach. NC State has a good foundation. Go back and look at that recruiting chart you all used to show why the B1G is in trouble, and you will see several ACC states producing a lot of football talent. Notre Dame will be playing 5 games a year vs. the ACC, helping up the strength of schedule and providing several heavily watched national TV games.
 
I think some of the ACC death scenarios are people who just hate the ACC (understandable for UConn fans) buying into meth-addled WVU hallucinations because the story of Swofford getting his comeuppance makes you feel good. I don't want to feel good from something empty, I want to feel good because UConn is actually in a better situation. That could be provided by either the B1G or the ACC, and the ACC looks like a much better shot right now but it still depends on one or two more moves to open up a space for us.

Also, not that it makes that much of a difference, but Pitt is a public school. Look it up.
 
Actually, Dan is bat s*** crazy. His UConn/ACC theory is ridiculous and doesn't even have a toe dipping into reality.
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Conspiracy Kitty says:
Really? Well if after reading those detailed focused posts, you still don't get it...well I guess that you never will.
 
pitt was always a private school untilt ehy split and went research heavy. they are and will always be a private school by identity they try to portray. when u hear ppl call them red heads or halfs and stuff, they are refering to pitt being half private half public as a school becuase thats how they act and want to be seen. pitt will always be lumped in with bc and cuse when it comes to groups. fwiw i am pretty sure temple is the same way, just behind in the athletics world....
 
Dan almost all of my cousins on my dad's side attended Pitt. I have no idea where you're getting the private identity from. Maybe cause they like to play ND? Because they're urban compared to Penn State? They're not particularly religious, they have extensive ties to the community and city, their research is bigger than UConn's... I guess in public perception they might get mistaken for a private because their football sucks and their bball is better, but then that applies to Rutgers too (aside from bball cause their bball sucks too).
 
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