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I’d probably cancel the Hurley presser

What makes people think some random HC is going to boost attendance and bring in better talent?

Also - if you are going to boo our head coach on a nationally televised game when he is announced before the game...don't bother coming. That was awful. UConn fans are so incredibly spoiled it makes me sick.

You should be a lot more concerned about the product Ollie is putting on National Tv. Not the fans who’ve paid to see the garabage 0-14 team vs top 50 teams.

You dont want to boo fine. If it offends you so much maybe you shouldn’t go.
 
Yes, it is.

You know what won’t be hard? Hiring someone that will do a better job than Ollie has done the past 12 months. Honest question: how could anyone possibly do worse? Blowout losses, lack of player development, unwatchable offense, questions about his commitment, alienating players who then transfer, alienating JC. And if someone does do worse and we drop from the 150th best team that loses 5 blowouts a year to the 175th best team that loses 7 blowouts a year, who cares?

I was a huge KO believer and on the train longer than most, but you couldn’t do worse than he has the last 12 months.
 
Not sure about that. At some point ND will have to fully join the ACC in order to be eligible for a conference title game and improve their chances at ever getting into the CFB playoff. Once that happens the ACC will likely grab another school to balance out their divisions.

No they won’t. That’s CR forum craziness.
 
Can you imagine if the window of opportunity was longer to edit a post and the OP goes in and edits to include PUBLIC while people debate this issue?

This place would be on fire. Kinda like when the OJ jury read the verdict.

I used to moderate @ InverstorsHub where at the naked shorters are. LOL (only I get this 1) :(
I see you BlueDog. I get the naked short reference!
 
I think there is very, very little chance Ollie gets fired this year.

That’s about as accurate a prognostication as one could make right now. There is always a slight possibility but the things that would make the removal a reality haven’t actually happened yet.
 
Question of the day:

How much more will it cost to fire Ollie this year vs next year?

Ollie's contract seems to be a sunk cost so ignore it.

How much are we paying the new coach to start? My guess would be 2 million per year to start.

So the answer to the question how much more will it cost to fire Ollie this year vs next year is 2 million dollars which will be partly offset by ticket sales if he does a better job than Ollie.
 
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"Random" is a really dumb word to use in that sentence.
I like the word and stand by it. I don't care who the coach is. 95% of fans don't know any coaches other than the big name ones. I highly doubt fans are going to show up for a HC they have never heard of.
 
This has turned into a Seinfeld episode.

What about the $10 million?

They just write it off!

Do you know what that means?

I’m not the one writing it off!

I gave you the incremental cost this year vs next year. If you are choosing to be a nitwit then be a nitwit.
 
I gave you the incremental cost this year vs next year. If you are choosing to be a nitwit then be a nitwit.

They have to pay the entire buyout when they fire him.

So other than a lump 9.5 million - you nailed it. Nitwit.
 
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There's a whole lot more than bad luck going on here...
No kidding. Look. I get it. Ollie has made some mistakes. He hasn't landed a shooter, etc. But don't try to tell me Terry's ACL and Gilberts shoulder are his fault. I don't want to hear it. If KO leaves and the whole team leaves is a new coach going to bring in an entire roster of players better than we have now? No way. Firing Ollie right now would be a huge mistake. They've got talent coming in. Lets play it out and see what happens.
 
Why don't we just sell a bunch of OOC games to get money the way Texas Southern does? Instead of one-for-ones with P5 schools we could do a season or two of one and dones for cash. It's not like we have any pride left after giving BCU one of our home FB games.
 
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Just picture March 2019, when we finish our third straight losing season in a row. That’s what we’re headed for with Ollie. Getting 1000 people in the civic center will be a chore.
Aren't they giving away free tickets to the Tulsa game to people who hold season tickets for football?
 
No kidding. Look. I get it. Ollie has made some mistakes. He hasn't landed a shooter, etc. But don't try to tell me Terry's ACL and Gilberts shoulder are his fault. I don't want to hear it. If KO leaves and the whole team leaves is a new coach going to bring in an entire roster of players better than we have now? No way. Firing Ollie right now would be a huge mistake. They've got talent coming in. Lets play it out and see what happens.

Im no insider or guru like Chief00 but I would put the probability of that exact thinking by the decision makers at 95%

Which will make the April melts by people like this ... dot dot dot

No he just destroyed our basketball program

dot dot dot ... endless.


#poorJmick
 
No kidding. Look. I get it. Ollie has made some mistakes. He hasn't landed a shooter, etc. But don't try to tell me Terry's ACL and Gilberts shoulder are his fault. I don't want to hear it. If KO leaves and the whole team leaves is a new coach going to bring in an entire roster of players better than we have now? No way. Firing Ollie right now would be a huge mistake. They've got talent coming in. Lets play it out and see what happens.

Never said fire him now. But saying he's been snakebit is also completely incorrect. With both Gilbert and Larrier, we lost to Wagner and Northeastern and were down 15 eight minutes into the game against Okla St when we lost Larrier. The team was awful fully intact, too. Those injuries, of course, are not KOs fault, but saying it was bad luck is implying that we were rolling and then we got screwed. And that's absolutely not true. We don't know if they would have gelled over time or not.

If we replace KO, it is likely that someone might leave. But it's up to the powers that be to bring in a coach who CAN bring in players. We already know that KOs name and UConn's for that matter in this regime are not exactly lighting it up in the recruiting world. Recruits know that all is not right here. If we make the right hire, we should be able to sell to a prospective recruit that the ship has been righted. Will it take a year or two of lumps? Quite probably. But I'd rather know that we are looking to change then continue to try the same thing that has not worked.

As far as the players coming in, they are solid. But I'm not sure if any of them are day-one impact players except out of necessity. Akinjo looks like he can play but small guards often take some time to figure out how to play against bigger and better competition and he's still just a borderline top 100 player. Matthews looks like he is talented and may be underrated, but he's rated (I know imperfect science) lower than Polley, and the big man looks like a garbage type guy. Useful, yes. Impact player? Not likely.

Again, an in-season fire is asinine on all accounts and simply will not happen unless they think Chill, Kill, or Ricky Moore is the next head coach and I think there is zero chance of that happening. But, I'm growing weary of just riding it out with KO because we are worried about what change may come. We need change or we are going to be completely irrelevant.
 
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But saying he's been snakebit is also completely incorrect. With both Gilbert and Larrier, we lost to Wagner and Northeastern and were down 15 eight minutes into the game against Okla St when we lost Larrier. The team was awful fully intact, too.

Wagner and Northeastern we had a full squad, true. And should not have lost those games but we incorporated a ton of new people. It would have been interesting to see if that team couldve gotten better over the course of the year intact.

Gilbert was already gone by OK state.
 
Wagner and Northeastern we had a full squad, true. And should not have lost those games but we incorporated a ton of new people. It would have been interesting to see if that team couldve gotten better over the course of the year intact.

Gilbert was already gone by OK state.
Not that it's any excuse but Rodney was in a daze the first half dozen or so games last year.
 
No kidding. Look. I get it. Ollie has made some mistakes. He hasn't landed a shooter, etc. But don't try to tell me Terry's ACL and Gilberts shoulder are his fault. I don't want to hear it. If KO leaves and the whole team leaves is a new coach going to bring in an entire roster of players better than we have now? No way. Firing Ollie right now would be a huge mistake. They've got talent coming in. Lets play it out and see what happens.

I am pretty sure we all know what happens if we play it out. I will be exactly like the past 4 disappointing seasons.
 
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